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Old 25-10-2014, 19:40
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I don't normally watch or post in here but did anyone else think a lot of that dance was a complete rip off frm Mel B's on dancing with the Stars?
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Old 25-10-2014, 19:47
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I don't normally watch or post in here but did anyone else think a lot of that dance was a complete rip off frm Mel B's on dancing with the Stars?
Does it matter?

They danced a Viennese waltz - that was their remit.
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Old 25-10-2014, 19:49
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They were only asking.
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Old 25-10-2014, 19:52
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They were only asking.
And I was only answering.
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Old 25-10-2014, 20:30
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Does it matter?

They danced a Viennese waltz - that was their remit.
Yea it does matter cause what's the sense in ripping soemone elses dance off
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Old 25-10-2014, 20:37
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Doesn't matter to me as I don't watch dancing with the stars. It's more annoying to watch Ola rehash the same waltz year after year.
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Old 25-10-2014, 20:45
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I'm no dancing expert but I'm guessing that there's not much new nowadays. It doesn't matter if they copy it from Dancing with the Stars, Come Dancing 1976, Top Hat, or Saturday Night Fever.
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Old 25-10-2014, 20:50
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these 2 completely bore me get rid of them soon
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Old 25-10-2014, 20:56
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And I was only answering.
It's the way you answered. I better be careful, you're in the 'golden circle' on this forum.
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Old 25-10-2014, 20:58
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Doesn't matter to me as I don't watch dancing with the stars. It's more annoying to watch Ola rehash the same waltz year after year.
Yes that is so true - I actually recognised the routine from past series when I was watching her tonight !
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Old 26-10-2014, 01:39
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I'm not a fan of Simon, but how on earth do the producers expect anyone to dance to a 1-2-3 waltz on a pop song which has a 1-2-3-4 time signature. It's not possible to move in time with the music while performing my the rise and fall of the waltz moves!!!
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Old 26-10-2014, 01:46
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I'm not a fan of Simon, but how on earth do the producers expect anyone to dance to a 1-2-3 waltz on a pop song which has a 1-2-3-4 time signature. It's not possible to move in time with the music while performing my the rise and fall of the waltz moves!!!
Simple. The producers are tone deaf and have no idea what music goes with what dance. And they don't care.
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Old 26-10-2014, 01:48
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And I was only answering.
But you didn't answer - you just questioned the voracity of the post?

Kristina took her eye off the ball with this VW. Zero romance, chemistry. Yikes.
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Old 26-10-2014, 01:55
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I'm not a fan of Simon, but how on earth do the producers expect anyone to dance to a 1-2-3 waltz on a pop song which has a 1-2-3-4 time signature. It's not possible to move in time with the music while performing my the rise and fall of the waltz moves!!!
it wasn't too bad to do a vw to - have heard worse as VW dancedd without the rise and fall of a slow waltz doesnt pose as much of a problem as some do
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Old 26-10-2014, 01:02
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Kristina took her eye off the ball with this VW. Zero romance, chemistry. Yikes.
I agree completely. I end up being not-a-fan of almost any non-traditional VW
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Old 26-10-2014, 01:08
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I don't normally watch or post in here but did anyone else think a lot of that dance was a complete rip off frm Mel B's on dancing with the Stars?

Unlike other ballroom dances were there are hundreds of steps and variations that can be used the VW is basically turns, reverse turns and the fleckrl with some odd bits you can throw in very lik sequence or old time dances so often routine can look very similar cos there is not much to play around with

as in this open comp if you look at the couples (one of which is joanne) you will see they are doing virtually the same as each other https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-aLn_En_sU

have checked Mel b's and simons vids dont think they are really that similar
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Old 26-10-2014, 02:32
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I'm not a fan of Simon, but how on earth do the producers expect anyone to dance to a 1-2-3 waltz on a pop song which has a 1-2-3-4 time signature. It's not possible to move in time with the music while performing my the rise and fall of the waltz moves!!!
The timing was fine, in my opinion. The count is always, 1,2,3,4,5,6 for VW and there is no rise and fall - it is not the same as the slow waltz in that respect. There is no rise and fall but more of a swing of the sides(linear swing), creating a lilting action.
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Old 26-10-2014, 02:35
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Unlike other ballroom dances were there are hundreds of steps and variations that can be used the VW is basically turns, reverse turns and the fleckrl with some odd bits you can throw in very lik sequence or old time dances so often routine can look very similar cos there is not much to play around with

as in this open comp if you look at the couples (one of which is joanne) you will see they are doing virtually the same as each other https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-aLn_En_sU

have checked Mel b's and simons vids dont think they are really that similar
Agree with you. A lot of the VW routines will end up looking similar due to the lack of variations in the dance
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Old 26-10-2014, 03:04
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But you didn't answer - you just questioned the voracity of the post?

Kristina took her eye off the ball with this VW. Zero romance, chemistry. Yikes.
I did not question the veracity of the post - on the contrary it could be identical to Mel B's VW for all I know.

I simply asked "Does it matter?" and pointed out that Simon and Kristina fulfilled their remit.
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Old 26-10-2014, 03:10
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I did not question the veracity of the post - on the contrary it could be identical to Mel B's VW for all I know.

I simply asked "Does it matter?" and pointed out that Simon and Kristina fulfilled their remit.
Exactly. And to add to that, for anyone that knows what they are looking at, most of the ballroom dances are not too disimilar, as they mostly dance the same groups, but in a different order.
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Old 26-10-2014, 05:54
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It's the way you answered. I better be careful, you're in the 'golden circle' on this forum.
Ooo what's the golden circle? Is that the clique who ignore everyone apart from themselves except for occasionally posting something passive aggressive and self righteous to someone outside the circle and then studiously ignoring them for evermore?

Just a guess
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Old 26-10-2014, 08:43
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It's the way you answered. I better be careful, you're in the 'golden circle' on this forum.
Ooo what's the golden circle? Is that the clique who ignore everyone apart from themselves except for occasionally posting something passive aggressive and self righteous to someone outside the circle and then studiously ignoring them for evermore?

Just a guess
I too would like to know more about the 'golden circle.'

I wasn't aware that I'd joined an exclusive club. Are there conditions of entry e.g. must one be recommended by another member or perhaps one can only gain entry based upon wealth and position (e.g. Oxford's Bullingdon Club?)

Is the 'golden Circle' social or philanthropic? Do we influence society for the good or the bad? Do we dole out the largesse to those in need or rob the poor to enrich the rich?

Is there a secret code for recognising fellow members and does membership carry with it any special privileges.

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Old 26-10-2014, 09:10
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I too would like to know more about the 'golden circle.'

I wasn't aware that I'd joined an exclusive club. Are there conditions of entry e.g. must one be recommended by another member or perhaps one can only gain entry based upon wealth and position (e.g. Oxford's Bullingdon Club?)

Is the 'golden Circle' social or philanthropic? Do we influence society for the good or the bad? Do we dole out the largesse to those in need or rob the poor to enrich the rich?

Is there a secret code for recognising fellow members and does membership carry with it any special privileges.

I really need to know just what sort of organisation I'm affiliated to.
I think you have just given people lots of ideas of the sort of exclusive club you would ideally belong to. I'd like to suggest a few names for it, but I'd probably get banned, so I'll just leave it to everyone's imagination.
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Old 26-10-2014, 09:21
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Simple. The producers are tone deaf and have no idea what music goes with what dance. And they don't care.
And last night, it showed.

In large amounts.
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Old 26-10-2014, 10:06
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Exactly. And to add to that, for anyone that knows what they are looking at, most of the ballroom dances are not too disimilar, as they mostly dance the same groups, but in a different order.
Hi Jennifer

Are you a fellow member of the Golden Circle?

I think you have just given people lots of ideas of the sort of exclusive club you would ideally belong to. I'd like to suggest a few names for it, but I'd probably get banned, so I'll just leave it to everyone's imagination.
And how do you know I don't already belong to an association whose aims are the furtherance of equality for my fellow man. It's never wise to make assumptions.

As for names - to impugn that my values are less than worthy then hide behind the fear of a ban hardly suggests the courage of your convictions.

You are welcome to suggest names for any clubs to which you think I might belong without fear or favour - so feel free to express your opinions with valour and fortitude.
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