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Old 27-10-2014, 00:35
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I really think that he is a very good addition to the Strictly family ; Granted he has more opportunity to be really creative and good with his choreography since he has Pixie has a partner but I am really impressed with his choreography. It is a bit different than what we are used to IMO and very good.

I really hope that he comes back next year but I also hope that TPTB keep Robin.


Does anyone knows which pro would have been paired up with Pixie if Robin didnt get injured

They are not my favorites BUT I really, really enjoyed his samba with Pixie Saturday ; It was very fast though and she coped really well with it......

Oh and one last thing, I really love to see him perform in Pro dances (the pro dance with Natalie during Lady Gaga and Bennet was sublime ) ; He really stand out IMO ......Personality wise, I find it quite hard to figure him out (to be fair I had the same problem last year with Aljaz even though him and Abbey were my favourites ) so I think that he will open up more with time

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Old 27-10-2014, 00:47
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I think he is ok but not stand out but would like to see him again next year
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Old 27-10-2014, 02:25
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What I found strange was that on ITT Pixie said that they had been working with a choreographer, I can't remember which dance it was for but it was one of the normal 10 dances.

Earlier Tristan had said that they are offered help only with the non-standard ones (AT, charleston, etc.), which also ties in with what we have been told in the past, so I'm a bit confused now!
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Old 27-10-2014, 02:56
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What I found strange was that on ITT Pixie said that they had been working with a choreographer, I can't remember which dance it was for but it was one of the normal 10 dances.

Earlier Tristan had said that they are offered help only with the non-standard ones (AT, charleston, etc.), which also ties in with what we have been told in the past, so I'm a bit confused now!
It was their rumba with Anya.
Yeah I found that a bit strange but I think that she was mostly helping pixie in getting the character of the dance .and besides the pros usually help each other out, right
I'm assuming that a lot of pros usually get some help from other choreographers....it doesn't make me appreciate his choreography any less though
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Old 27-10-2014, 03:03
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What I found strange was that on ITT Pixie said that they had been working with a choreographer, I can't remember which dance it was for but it was one of the normal 10 dances.

Earlier Tristan had said that they are offered help only with the non-standard ones (AT, charleston, etc.), which also ties in with what we have been told in the past, so I'm a bit confused now!
Here's what Tristan said:

"There is a team who are available for help when it comes to the less familiar dances - Charleston, Salsa, Argentine Tango although not everyone uses them. We are expected, and rightly so, to do our own work for Ballroom and Latin as that is what we train in and are paid to teach but there is always help available if needed although all teaching is done by us, the professional, just like America."

I think the phrase "but there is always help available if needed" implies that they might get help even on dances that were not unfamiliar. Simon Webbe thanked someone other than Kristina (Kylie Kruiksomething?) for help with their rumba, and I'm pretty sure Anya Garnis was thanked for helping with Brendan and Sunetra's Viennese Waltz, which he's supposedly expert at.

My guess is the producers may have particular ideas they want presented and they assign choreographers to help the pro/celeb couples incorporate those ideas - but in any case, there's plenty evidence that at least some of them do get help, even on dances they are very familiar with.

Also, in the interview, Tristan seemed unhappy with so many props being used, which makes me think the producers were heavily involved in his Mamma Mia number, with loads of props. He said he tried to get that dance changed all week long (and I assume was overruled.) He also said he hated having to use that song from the get-go (and I don't blame him) - he even tweeted about Beetlejuice and Jump in the Line, and I think he said in that interview that he did want that song instead.
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Old 27-10-2014, 07:57
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I love Trent's choreography too! And I think he has a great presence and stands out in the pro dances.

I think Kylie and bill deamer choreograph the Charlestons, Richard Marcel choreographs most of the salsas and Kele baker choreographs the Argentine tangos.

Kylie Cruickshanks was probably thanked after the Charleston last week although I missed it.

I think Anya is around to help generally this year but I haven't noticed her name on the credits.

Matt flint choreographed some or all of the pro barn dance I think (from sytycd)!
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Old 27-10-2014, 08:41
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I like Trent. He's taking it just seriously enough to make a good stab of getting to the final, without being too intense about it all.
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Old 27-10-2014, 08:52
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Here's what Tristan said:

"There is a team who are available for help when it comes to the less familiar dances - Charleston, Salsa, Argentine Tango although not everyone uses them. We are expected, and rightly so, to do our own work for Ballroom and Latin as that is what we train in and are paid to teach but there is always help available if needed although all teaching is done by us, the professional, just like America."

I think the phrase "but there is always help available if needed" implies that they might get help even on dances that were not unfamiliar. Simon Webbe thanked someone other than Kristina (Kylie Kruiksomething?) for help with their rumba, and I'm pretty sure Anya Garnis was thanked for helping with Brendan and Sunetra's Viennese Waltz, which he's supposedly expert at.

My guess is the producers may have particular ideas they want presented and they assign choreographers to help the pro/celeb couples incorporate those ideas - but in any case, there's plenty evidence that at least some of them do get help, even on dances they are very familiar with.

Also, in the interview, Tristan seemed unhappy with so many props being used, which makes me think the producers were heavily involved in his Mamma Mia number, with loads of props. He said he tried to get that dance changed all week long (and I assume was overruled.) He also said he hated having to use that song from the get-go (and I don't blame him) - he even tweeted about Beetlejuice and Jump in the Line, and I think he said in that interview that he did want that song instead.
Brendan has done a lot of viennesse waltzes before without any help and what is wrong with getting a fellow pro to help? He said on Saturday night i put that together with Anya, dancers worked together and use choreographers. She would give a female perspective which can help a female student, it isn't a negative thing to get help or a reflection of Brendan expertise.

Anya's choreography was fantastic last year, she should hav been a pro this year again so asking for her help shows that Brendan is a.) willing to look for help if needed b.) will do whatever it takes to make his student look good.

There is a difference with help and been given a routine to dance which is happening in other dwts formats including doing carbon copies of strictly and dwts usa dances.

My only problem is when the pro doesn't have a ballroom background so can't teach or choreograph and in some cases can't even dance the dances (not talking strictly pros here maybe arguably Jared didn't have enough experience when he did strictly)

I do like Trent's choreography but don't really know must about his personality I agree it is like Alijaz last year who I didn't really warm to but I think he is great this year with Alison. But if it is a choice between Trent & Tristan I would chose Tristan who should have been given a better partner and fits strictly better
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Old 27-10-2014, 09:30
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I like watching Trent and Pixie dance, as for the choreography I wouldn't have a clue, I just know I like what I see when they dance, everything seem to fit. I do hope he is back next year, not that bothered about the other newbies.
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Old 27-10-2014, 10:27
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Think it was Annyas choice not to be on Strictly this year as it did not fit her comittments in the USA she has worked with JG a lot so not surprised she is working behind the scenes on the show. As for pros getting help whilst all male professionals learn the female steps sometimes you need a lady dancer to get it across better which is probably why trent used annya in the rumba to help Pixie

The pros have always helped each other Matthew for instance helped Ern out with Latin for Colin etc

If it was a choice Tristan / Trent would pick Tristan if it was a choice Trent / Robin then would pick Trent
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Old 27-10-2014, 10:47
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Agreed, I love Trent's choreography - it manages to be a bit different without ever being too weird or wacky. You can tell he's done it before for SCD shows in other countries as well.

Compare and contrast with Tristan (whose choreography was very DWTS, I thought - a lot of faffing and not much recognisable stuff) and Joanne (whose choreography I don't like, full stop. But that might be due in large part to who's dancing it )

I'd be happy to keep all the new pros for next year on condition Joanne gets a ringah so I can re-evaluate her. But if Anya were to be swapped in for her then I wouldn't cry many tears.
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Old 27-10-2014, 10:50
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I like Trent. He's taking it just seriously enough to make a good stab of getting to the final, without being too intense about it all.
Me too. I think he is different enough to be a nice change

I would really love Robin back though.

There are a few males who could drift away unnoticed.
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Old 27-10-2014, 10:56
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If it was a choice Tristan / Trent would pick Tristan if it was a choice Trent / Robin then would pick Trent
Me too. Jennifer left the country for the first week of practice so I don't think Tristan's had a proper chance.
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Old 27-10-2014, 10:57
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Trent actually choreographs properly! Apart from the week 1 Jive they've been fairly prop-free routines! The fact they're always top/near top of the leaderboard should show the producers props are unnecessary!
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Old 27-10-2014, 11:13
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to be fair though trent has had it easy - he has got someone with dance experience has had correct music for his dances and danced prop free - he needs to be stretched and given terrible music and props to see his metal - wonder how he would have coped with a foxttrot to mama mia
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Old 27-10-2014, 11:24
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to be fair though trent has had it easy - he has got someone with dance experience has had correct music for his dances and danced prop free - he needs to be stretched and given terrible music and props to see his metal - wonder how he would have coped with a foxttrot to mama mia
And Tristan said he tried to get that song changed. I will really be irate if they don't give him another chance after sticking him with that dance and making her dance 2nd in the 2nd week and 3rd in the third, where people would be more likely to forget to vote for them by the end of the show
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Old 27-10-2014, 11:27
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Trent's great, but antipodean pros always are (except Hayley Holt but there's an exception for every rule).
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Old 27-10-2014, 11:29
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to be fair though trent has had it easy - he has got someone with dance experience has had correct music for his dances and danced prop free - he needs to be stretched and given terrible music and props to see his metal - wonder how he would have coped with a foxttrot to mama mia
For a proper comparison there, he'd also need a less able partner than Pixie.

But I think he's the sort that can adapt to do the best with what he's got.
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Old 27-10-2014, 11:52
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For a proper comparison there, he'd also need a less able partner than Pixie.

But I think he's the sort that can adapt to do the best with what he's got.
I concur
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Old 27-10-2014, 13:39
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Trent works with his girlfriend Gordana to do all his choreography
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Old 27-10-2014, 14:15
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Trent works with his girlfriend Gordana to do all his choreography
Then they make a good team - His choreoprahy seems a lot better than most of the other pros - even factoring in Pixie being a good dancer - it seems kind off fresher and stands out

People seem to bang on about Tristan being some form of God on here - however whilst the music for the foxtrot was pants, the choreography was worse than the song and lacking in any real noticable foxtrot stuff (that's a technicle term )
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Old 27-10-2014, 14:25
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Gordana is HIS WIFE NOT his girlfriend.

Here is a pic of her with Pixie and Trent Saturday.

https://twitter.com/TrentWhiddon/sta...19164945473536
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Old 27-10-2014, 14:27
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Tristan got a bit stuffed over with Happy (which was flippin' fast for a Week 1 jive for a not very competent celeb) and Mamma Mia, which was a God awful choice for the foxtrot. That said, I wasn't bowled over by his waltz choreography either, which could be because I don't like the waltz, but could just be because it wasn't very interesting.

However, I think he's probably made a good enough impression to come back and get a ringah next year, so I'll reserve final judgement til we see what he can do when stretched. Mediocre choreography isn't in itself a reason to ditch someone if they bring other elements to the show; I'd personally put James and Kevin's choreography in that box, and James lasted 8 series, while Kevin's gone and got himself a full-fledged ringah this year.
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Old 27-10-2014, 21:52
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Gordana is HIS WIFE NOT his girlfriend.

Here is a pic of her with Pixie and Trent Saturday.

https://twitter.com/TrentWhiddon/sta...19164945473536
You are correct, Gordana is his wife, a slip of the keyboard.

It does not change the fact that they choreograph everything together though as they should.
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Old 27-10-2014, 21:58
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I think Trent's a great addition to this series his choreography is a lot more traditional, especially his and Pixie's Samba on Saturday! He's a got a cute kinda personality, not too loud but noticeable when he's dancing! I hope him and Tristan are both back next year I can actually see Trent partnering well with an older contestant too.
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