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Feel really sorry for Simon. For some reason, he's not getting the votes. In my opinion he doesn't come over as arrogant but some seem to think he does
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Feel really sorry for Simon. For some reason, he's not getting the votes. In my opinion he doesn't come over as arrogant but some seem to think he does
.I just think Simon's a bit on the reserved side but he obviously wants to do well for himself and Kristina - some people mistake that for arrogance or him being too serious...but I don't think that all - I just think he's inwardly a bit frustrated or disappointed with himself....it's a shame if he's got commitments with Blue that it's cutting into his training time but I think he's trying his best in the time that's available to him. |
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Feel really sorry for Simon. For some reason, he's not getting the votes. In my opinion he doesn't come over as arrogant but some seem to think he does
.Nice enough guy, but as I said earlier, I believe 95% of the viewers would never have heard of him. So they aren't going to vote for him. "Not popular." |
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I just don't think he's got anything going for him.
Nice enough guy, but as I said earlier, I believe 95% of the viewers would never have heard of him. So they aren't going to vote for him. "Not popular." |
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There have been a lot of contestants you might say that about that have done very well, I think it's more a case that he is not "in your face" as some others are.
And I particularly like it when I think I'm going to hate someone, due to sterotypes,but actually learn to love them - Abbey Clancy / Chelsee Healey |
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I don't think doing SCD is ever really a bad career move, because pretty much the most damaging thing you can do to yourself is dance badly - and everyone forgets about that once you've returned to your day job. We only remember the winners and the absolute duffers, and the duffers usually do all right out of their appearance, so no harm no foul
![]() Truth is that even if his schedule were clear, Simon might not have floated the boat of viewers. He just seems to be lacking that spark that makes people engage with what he's doing, for all he's done some routines that weren't bad technically. I've actually found it quite annoying, as I loved his Xmas routine with Katya and thought Kristina would do a great job with him. Would he find that spark if he weren't so busy? Hard to say - spark's not a quantifiable like technique or 'polish'. There have been instances of people suddenly finding their mojo and being lifted into another marking band entirely. I'll keep my fingers crossed. |
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To my mind, he is incredibly lucky to have the chance to participate in SCD.
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No .. Eurovision was a bad career move
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Yes, forming a band was a bad career move.
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Probably because I'm not sure why you've focused on Simon in saying he is lucky?
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Yes, forming a band was a bad career move.
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Don't people who like Blue expect to see Duncan? Did anyone ever care about Simon?
SCD can't be a bad move for a guy who lost all his money. He's obviously going to I'm A Nonentity/Big Brother/Prancing About On Skates route. |
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Don't people who like Blue expect to see Duncan? Did anyone ever care about Simon?
SCD can't be a bad move for a guy who lost all his money. He's obviously going to I'm A Nonentity/Big Brother/Prancing About On Skates route. My main original point was primarily that Simon could upset some of his few remaining fans by missing concerts to appear on a TV show, and fans attending said shows won't be watching him on TV anyway. I'd be pretty annoyed if someone dropped out of a show I'd booked to see months ago to appear on a TV show instead. If he leaves soon it may not have been worth it! |
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It used to be a flat fee, but they changed the payment system in 2010 - you now get paid according to how long you stay in the competition.
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I don't think doing SCD is ever really a bad career move, because pretty much the most damaging thing you can do to yourself is dance badly - and everyone forgets about that once you've returned to your day job. We only remember the winners and the absolute duffers, and the duffers usually do all right out of their appearance, so no harm no foul
![]() Truth is that even if his schedule were clear, Simon might not have floated the boat of viewers. He just seems to be lacking that spark that makes people engage with what he's doing, for all he's done some routines that weren't bad technically. I've actually found it quite annoying, as I loved his Xmas routine with Katya and thought Kristina would do a great job with him. Would he find that spark if he weren't so busy? Hard to say - spark's not a quantifiable like technique or 'polish'. There have been instances of people suddenly finding their mojo and being lifted into another marking band entirely. I'll keep my fingers crossed. |
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The question is why are the voters not voting for Simon or is it because of the bad publicity about his partner Kristina???? I personally do not know who the heck he is!!! Can't help but think poorly of someone who has a singing career and makes tons of money only to claim he is bankrupt. Pure stupidity.
Unless they write the songs and get writers royalties, they only get fees, which are controlled by the record companies/ managers etc. Touring is the only real way to make money for some acts. The world is littered with former popstars who got ripped off by their "employers". |
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I see Simon has opened up today about his battles with depression.
As someone who has been through similar problems, I am struggling to find much sympathy for Simon and - dare I say it - it seems awfully convenient to announce this after he's done his second dance-off of the series. He says he owes it to his fans to explain why he is sometimes a bit off it or whatever but is he trying to gain a few sympathy votes? Not Simon's fault, but one article claims he has 'crippling depression' yet Simon himself basically says that he has snapped himself out of it! I don't dispute that he has issues but many of us do and there does seem to be a 'poor me' vibe there IMO. |
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This is what I was going to say. There's no way he would make the decision that he could afford to turn down Strictly.
Do they get paid more if they stay in longer or is it a flat fee? (Sorry this has probably been asked/discussed a lot over the years.) (I understood the celebs to get a one off fee regardless of how far they get - but the rate varies from celeb to celeb depending on their perceived name value?) |
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No! I don't think it can ever be a bad career move to do Strictly. Prime time TV exposure.
I like Simon and have thrown him a couple votes each week. He has produced some good dances, the jive and charleston were great. If he dances well this week I will vote again for him. He comes over a little bit shy but definitely not arrogant. The judges have often marked him quite low I feel. If he goes before Scott I shall be very pee'd off. |
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I see Simon has opened up today about his battles with depression.
As someone who has been through similar problems, I am struggling to find much sympathy for Simon and - dare I say it - it seems awfully convenient to announce this after he's done his second dance-off of the series. He says he owes it to his fans to explain why he is sometimes a bit off it or whatever but is he trying to gain a few sympathy votes? Not Simon's fault, but one article claims he has 'crippling depression' yet Simon himself basically says that he has snapped himself out of it! I don't dispute that he has issues but many of us do and there does seem to be a 'poor me' vibe there IMO. |
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Oh, I didn't know about that, though it makes sense of him making himself available for Gregg when he was suffering from panic attacks. Some kinds of suffering improve human sympathy. I'm sorry to hear of his trouble, and anyone else who goes through it
I think twice in the bottom 2 has affected him. It's why <I think> the dance off is a bad thing. |
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There have been a lot of contestants you might say that about that have done very well, I think it's more a case that he is not "in your face" as some others are.
Its a shame really. |
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It's never a bad career move! I do think maybe he'd have done better with a different partner. I'm not saying anything's Kristina's fault I just think certain contestants need a certain type of partner and something doesn't click here.
I quite liked Simon's solo work! Better than any of the other Blue boys anyway. |
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I am sorry I will say this, he is not the right colour. The only black contestant who has gone on to win was Alysha Dixon. Oh and Mark Ramprakash. Both mixed race. Even Natalie Gumede who was IMO a lot better Abbey Clancy got a lot of pasting from the media and people on here for being a ringer. This year there are more than 4 ringers and there hardly get a bad time. Sorry to bring race into it but it does play a big part.
Natalie last year was on her own in the ringer corner. This year, they're jockying for position and I think that helps. More to go round. |
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Denise VO got as much - if not more - ringer stick than anyone.
Natalie last year was on her own in the ringer corner. This year, they're jockying for position and I think that helps. More to go round. Like I said it is a real shame. |
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