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Doctor Who - S8E11 - Dark Water - 1st Nov '14 - BBC One (HD) @ 8.15pm


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Old 28-10-2014, 18:54
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I hope that is what wound up the Radio Times guy. Good. I could forgive Moffat many things but introducing harps and bearded men on clouds into Doctor Who would be a step too far. Hoping for a nicely contentious piece of humanist science fiction.

And if that guy is upset because it dares to suggest death might be an ultimate end then he is an idiot who shouldn't be in a position to review the show in the first place.
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Old 28-10-2014, 19:01
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Just a though if that is the afterlife in some incarmation how many Claras would be there... She would be like her own army :-o
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Old 28-10-2014, 19:17
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Patrick Mulkern, Radio Times.
So this episode is in some way saying there's no such thing as an afterlife?

I'm quite relieved actually. I said before on here ages ago that any attempt at going all god-ified would be mega out of place in a show like Doctor Who. There's enough pandering to these lunatics in the day to day without them infiltrating my favourite show.
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Old 28-10-2014, 20:38
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Eddie 'from Skaro' is sounding happier, this week.
He posted his review. A far cry from In the Forest of the Night.

I have a feeling that

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Old 28-10-2014, 20:50
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He posted his review. A far cry from In the Forest of the Night.
Love.
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Old 28-10-2014, 20:51
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He posted his review. A far cry from In the Forest of the Night.
Oooh, this sounds fantastic! Can't wait! *Grinny face*
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Old 28-10-2014, 22:22
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It could be one of a few things: (speculation obviously):

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Heh. That pretty much covers the bases.

One thing I think I can point out safely is that not all of the scenes in the "next time" trailer are from part 1 of the finale - some are from part 2.
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Old 28-10-2014, 22:30
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Going to hazard a guess that all the UNIT stuff is from Part 2.. they're not on the cast list IIRC.
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Old 28-10-2014, 23:39
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I would be disappointed if the cliff hanger was
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I would be very surprised if Missy is a character that has appeared before.
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Old 29-10-2014, 10:40
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Den of Geek Review - I won't say which way it swings, but at least this line should appeal to somebody.

You're not having threads woven around you until you lose track.
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Old 29-10-2014, 10:54
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Den of Geek Review - I won't say which way it swings, but at least this line should appeal to somebody.
I'd agree with that line. Given that this is a Moffat finale, he's made an effort to keep the story linear without too many convolutions (in part 1, at least). I expect he'll now get criticised for writing a finale that is too simple and not ambitious enough ...
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Old 29-10-2014, 13:42
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Snippet of script (inspired by this image and this one )

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Old 29-10-2014, 15:34
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INTERIOR MOUNT DOOM - CLARA stands at the precipice the TARDIS Key held over the Molten Lava.
Its Magma not Lava.
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Old 29-10-2014, 15:46
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Some kind of spoilery hints to be found at Wales Online here...
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/whats-o...series-8014796

Rather worrying what they say about Danny...
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Old 29-10-2014, 19:53
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Not since The End Of Time Part 1 have I wanted to see an episode so badly...

3 days to go...
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Old 29-10-2014, 20:15
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The Radio Times is bizarre this week.

There's Patrick Mulkern's weirdly negative 'Pick of the Day': "A lot of this episode will appear crass and in poor taste to anyone who's suffered a bereavement. Which is most of us."

What???

And then there are the oddly negative 'celebrity' comments about how Peter Capaldi is doing as the Doctor. For some reason they even included AA Gill's (The Sunday Times) negative comments about Capaldi's first episode ("It wasn't an audition for a new part, rather a post-mortem for a venerable career").

Weird way for the BBC's own magazine to 'promote' one of its most watched shows.
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Old 29-10-2014, 20:51
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Weird way for the BBC's own magazine to 'promote' one of its most watched shows.
It isn't owned by the BBC, BBC magazines was sold to a Private Equity company in 2011.
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Old 29-10-2014, 20:54
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I imagine there will be some who believe in an afterlife who may not take to Doctor Who's interpretation....

...which is presumably that there isn't one and the finale is going to remind you repeatedly, as will The Doctor.

Eddie mentioned this in his review.

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Old 29-10-2014, 21:06
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I imagine there will be some who believe in an afterlife who may not take to Doctor Who's interpretation....

...which is presumably that there isn't one and the finale is going to remind you repeatedly, as will The Doctor.

Eddie mentioned this in his review.
Probably get the mumsnet brigade complaining to ofcom. I almost hope so. I can imagine the reception to this ep really getting on my nerves. Surely the whole concept of the show is an in your face to religious types anyway?

I'm just glad the easily offended fairy tale enthusiasts aren't being pandered to if I'm honest.
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Old 29-10-2014, 21:54
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So this episode is in some way saying there's no such thing as an afterlife?
Isn't this pretty much already established in the Who universe thanks to Torchwood? Captain Jack tells the suicidal man that there's nothing when you die.
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Old 29-10-2014, 22:00
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Isn't this pretty much already established in the Who universe thanks to Torchwood? Captain Jack tells the suicidal man that there's nothing when you die.
Yep. And that person they brought back to life briefly with that glove thing.
As I said before, the overall concept of the show isn't exactly in accordance with religious doctrine so if anyone's offended they really ought to get a grip.
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Old 29-10-2014, 22:10
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DWTV's preview is as ambiguous as expected - and speculates that Missy is be a major player in the Whoniverse.
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Old 29-10-2014, 22:14
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Ugh. It all sounds awesome. I can't wait until Saturday now! I've not been looking forward to a final so much since 'The Pandorica Opens'.
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Old 29-10-2014, 22:21
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The Radio Times is bizarre this week.

There's Patrick Mulkern's weirdly negative 'Pick of the Day': "A lot of this episode will appear crass and in poor taste to anyone who's suffered a bereavement. Which is most of us."

What???

And then there are the oddly negative 'celebrity' comments about how Peter Capaldi is doing as the Doctor. For some reason they even included AA Gill's (The Sunday Times) negative comments about Capaldi's first episode ("It wasn't an audition for a new part, rather a post-mortem for a venerable career").

Weird way for the BBC's own magazine to 'promote' one of its most watched shows.
The Radio Times is a sad and sorry old brand waiting to be chucked on the scrap heap. Its writers are utterly piss poor and its laughable attempts at remaining relevant with its online content are exactly that. Laughable. I wouldn't waste a second reading anything they say good or bad about the show.
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Old 29-10-2014, 22:25
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Not sure if it's been posted but there's a 60 second preview snippet on Youtube.

Dare you watch?



I almost squeed myself just from the sheer awesomeness.


So glad they got rid of the

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and

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