I thought it was established at the end that the 'Nethersphere' is that big timelord beach ball, within which Missy has trapped some element of the consciousness of the dead. So it's not, in fact, about what really happens after death after all (unless you happen to be caught up in the nefarious plans of a renegade time lord.)

LOL! I think you just won the 'most reactionary post of the year' award. Congratulations!

Doctor Who getting complaints again... A sure sign Moffat is getting it right.

"The Nethersphere. You know it's ever so fun. The people who live inside that thing think they've gone to heaven"

I'll just leave that line here, if there's still some confusion.

Shame you didn't understand the episode. Maybe try watching it again?

Nice one. By all means people should criticise the show for things it does wrong or badly, but it can be irritating to see so many attack it for something they didn't understand, even when it was clearly explained.

either way im looking forward to this

I have to confess, I fail to understand elements of the show sometimes. Watching the episode again does help. Oh and not watching it having had a couple of glasses of wine.

I loved the delivery of this line. It was so scathing and derogatory

Yes, this ^^^. Maybe it won't actually be spelt out in Big Capital Letters until the second part but it was quite obvious that the 'dead feel things' stuff was, as the Doctor said, pure fakery and nothing but a scam and a racket.

Anyone else spot the "miniature Clara" post-it? I've been wracking my brain but can't think of anything that we've seen that it could link to. Unlike all the other post-its we saw.

It doesn't make sense that the Cybermen would need permission to delete the emotions of their "dead" victims. It's never been a problem for them before - just grab the body, whip out the brain, pop it in the cyberbody and "Bob's yer uncle (or perhaps auntie)".

In fact, what use would the captured "souls" of the recently deceased be to them? They've always had/needed organic brains.

No. There has to be something else going on, more than the surface 3W scam, for it to make sense. It's a really mixed up concept right now.

I have no clue as to what that might be. Great, isn't it.

Into The Dalek. I would assume.

I suspect miniature Clara is related to the episode where Clara was turned miniature

It will come to you

EDIT: Sniped by a much too helpful poster!

D'oh! Of course.

Ever asked what you thought was good, thoughtful a question, and immediately realised it was just dumb?

The BBC has defended the storyline:

http://seriable.com/doctor-bbc-defen...ale-storyline/

[quote=Tom Tit;75488773]LOL! I think you just won the 'most reactionary post of the year' award. Congratulations!

Doctor Who getting complaints again... A sure sign Moffat is getting it right.[/QUOTE

Thanks

Comment on the BBC website in response to complaints have plainly said just that.

Hello, first post..bit of a lurker..

Loved this episode..thought the script was fantastic..the analogy Seb used of babies in the womb on a telephone call to explain the possibilty of an afterlife was..divine!

I first thought the post it notes that Clara was using were perhaps to remind her of what she is supposed to say to Pink..possibly been memory wiped with a worm or something to protect any paradoxy goings on if the Doctor has found a way round saving Danny?? maybe thats why she was telling him to shut up so he listened to her before the accident?

I have seen the MTV interview with Michelle Gomez and thought her first quote is interesting..wont discuss it incase its spoiler and also dont click it if you think it might have a spoiler in it (not sure if link has been put on here yet already but just incase it hasnt...)


http://www.mtv.com/news/1983988/doct...e-gomez-missy/

Just took a cursory glance at the official Facebook page. Wow. So much hate.

I mean, at least SOME of us liked it on here!

I've actually seen more positivity than negativity for Missy,

But every comments chain seems overbearingly different. Hence why the production team scoffs at them.

Well, I would certainly hope so! The last post for instance, ends with the words 'Who's excited?', which implies a request for feedback. And then the whole thing's just people going "no", "meh" or ranting about series 8 as a whole!

You always see that on FB officials fan pages people who like are supposed to be fans yet about 95% of the comments are negative not just in Doctor Who but anything I'm a wrestling and and if you read the comment you would think it was a anti wrestling page

Hmm. I would guess the role she was originally approached about would be Madame Kovorian? Or if it was from this season I guess the Bank of Karabraxos woman.

Nice first post!

Welcome to the forum. I hope you enjoy it here.

Gomez was approached for this season.