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do scotts voters actually watch?
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knawtitypaos
27-10-2014
I'm guessing most of them are radio 1 listeners , in which case probably not. Explains everything
gary217
27-10-2014
The thing about Scott is that he does have good coverage via R1 and if you've ever listened to his show (I've been unfortunate enough to hear his show a number of times due to youngsters in the car) it is based a lot on irreverent and mickey taking humour, so there is a real danger that he just sees this as a bit of a wind-up...much like his spoof phone calls etc. I expect many of his voters don't really watch but will vote just for fun. They probably, in a teenage sort of way, also think his bad dancing is comic.
So, if his radio audience keep voting for him he's unlikely to do a 'John Sargeant' as it will be seen as a good teenage wind-up of the Strictly audience. He's getting old for R1 so will be looking for popularity....however if and when the time comes that the Beeb say time to stop promoting your Strictly role (if they think it is turning adverse for the show) I expect he will do as told. He's in the transition age between R1 and R2, and he'll probably want a R2 job so will obey the powers.
It'll be interesting to see how this one runs.
luigy39
27-10-2014
I'm hoping that production pulls out one of their magic manipulations out of the hat and send him in a capsule to a galaxy far, far away.
attackmusic
27-10-2014
A lot of his votes probably come from One Direction fans, or whoever else he is asking to get votes for him. I don't think if he wasn't on radio 1 and had that reach he would still be here, people don't even seem to find him so bad he is funny. Just bad!
Smokeychan1
27-10-2014
The show needs poor dancers, it makes the middling barely competent contestants look better.

Watching poor dancers can be fun, but when they appear inhibited by embarrassment it becomes difficult to watch with any sense of enjoyment. Voting for someone who doesn't appear to be enjoying themselves (no matter if they are good, middling or bad) is a touch too sadistic for me but Scott is sending out very mixed messages Is he really that keen to have his face on TV that he would campaign to be kept in a competition that makes him feel sick?
Tall Paul
27-10-2014
Originally Posted by attackmusic:
“A lot of his votes probably come from One Direction fans, or whoever else he is asking to get votes for him. I don't think if he wasn't on radio 1 and had that reach he would still be here, people don't even seem to find him so bad he is funny. Just bad!”

Their nutcases in that case.
VintageWhine
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by gary217:
“The thing about Scott is that he does have good coverage via R1 and if you've ever listened to his show (I've been unfortunate enough to hear his show a number of times due to youngsters in the car)...”

Hey, it's your car (presumably), you listen to what you want!
tinselgirl
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by VintageWhine:
“Hey, it's your car (presumably), you listen to what you want!”


Have you travelled with children/ teenagers recently!?
VintageWhine
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by tinselgirl:
“Have you travelled with children/ teenagers recently!?”

Fortunately not!
MayD
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by Smokeychan1:
“The show needs poor dancers, it makes the middling barely competent contestants look better.”

No it doesn't

Are you really saying that the program would be better with a couple of 'out of their depth duffers' rather than contestants (there is a clue in that word) that allow us to watch good dancers. They may not start good but it is not beyond the producers to invite significantly more prospects than the program starts with and select the ones with a hope in hell's chance of cutting the mustard. The professions could be the judges that pick the 15 and (if necessary) the producers could allocate them to the professionals to compete
Gill P
28-10-2014
May, your idea is the very best I have seen anywhere! I have often thought something along those lines but you have expressed it so well. Thank you!
phoebefair
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by MayD:
“No it doesn't

Are you really saying that the program would be better with a couple of 'out of their depth duffers' rather than contestants (there is a clue in that word) that allow us to watch good dancers. They may not start good but it is not beyond the producers to invite significantly more prospects than the program starts with and select the ones with a hope in hell's chance of cutting the mustard. The professions could be the judges that pick the 15 and (if necessary) the producers could allocate them to the professionals to compete”

The producers are struggling to get ANYONE to sign up, never mind 15 who can dance.
MayD
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by phoebefair:
“The producers are struggling to get ANYONE to sign up, never mind 15 who can dance.”

With the character assassinations that take place once they do join <rubschin>

Seriously though, I find that hard to believe.

The only downside would be relatively poor(er) dancers would possibly fear being bottom of the pile. I could see how that would deter some if learning to dance and going on the 'the journey' didn't trump it
fondantfancy
28-10-2014
Well I loved Widdy and Anton so I can't criticise - I did think their routines were entertaining, and their partnership was entertaining, and I don't find Scott entertaining in any respect, but I accept that others probably do.

Widdy didn't win, Scott won't win, it happens every year, I'm far more cross about the faffing and props and awful music choices so that the good dances are ruined...................
DeltaBlues
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by MayD:
“No it doesn't

Are you really saying that the program would be better with a couple of 'out of their depth duffers' rather than contestants (there is a clue in that word) that allow us to watch good dancers. They may not start good but it is not beyond the producers to invite significantly more prospects than the program starts with and select the ones with a hope in hell's chance of cutting the mustard. The professions could be the judges that pick the 15 and (if necessary) the producers could allocate them to the professionals to compete”

If it were a pure dancing competition, that might work (apart from the fragile egos of the celebs being unlikely to agree to a possible boot before they even start, especially with the potential for embarrassing leaks and "Not Good Enough For Strictly" humiliation headlines). But it isn't. It's a light entertainment programme based on dancing, with an elimination element involving public votes.

The BBC know by now that different things entertain different people. They aren't trying to attract the dance purist crowd. They're trying to attract the Saturday night eating-in-front-of-the-telly family crowd, the let's-give-this-a-try-instead-of-X-Factor crowd, and to do so they aim for a cross-section of participants based on many factors of which dance ability or potential dance ability is only one small part.
MayD
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by DeltaBlues:
“If it were a pure dancing competition, that might work (apart from the fragile egos of the celebs being unlikely to agree to a possible boot before they even start, especially with the potential for embarrassing leaks and "Not Good Enough For Strictly" humiliation headlines). But it isn't. It's a light entertainment programme based on dancing, with an elimination element involving public votes.

The BBC know by now that different things entertain different people. They aren't trying to attract the dance purist crowd. They're trying to attract the Saturday night eating-in-front-of-the-telly family crowd, the let's-give-this-a-try-instead-of-X-Factor crowd, and to do so they aim for a cross-section of participants based on many factors of which dance ability or potential dance ability is only one small part.”

My Grand Master Plan is work in progress
IvanIV
28-10-2014
With all those celebs queuing up to support him in his VTs I am waiting for Craig Kelly there to advise him on being less deluded I think he might have organised some support, but now it runs on its own, people just love a good old car crash TV.
Brighton Babe
28-10-2014
He is a rubbish dancer and not even mildly entertaining but at the risk of getting lynched, I will admit to voting for him because I would prefer him to stay over Judy Murray. Soz
lundavra
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by Brighton Babe:
“He is a rubbish dancer and not even mildly entertaining but at the risk of getting lynched, I will admit to voting for him because I would prefer him to stay over Judy Murray. Soz ”

The trouble is that your vote could be the one that puts some reasonably competent in the middle ground in the bottom two. If there are two reasonably competent dancers in the bottom two then one will be leaving both him and Judy there for at least another week.
Bonnie Scotland
28-10-2014
Come on guys are some of you really that naive? ... of COURSE they want a mix of abilities from potentially great all the way down to potentially hopeless. As i mentioned in another thread it's first and foremost an entertainment show. They want (and need) a mix of abilities to instigate drama, upsets, anger, debate etc.

all these shows benefit from duffers whether you personally think so or not
alan29
28-10-2014
Who says you have to watch?
All you have to do is vote for your favourite. Nobody said anything about watching them dance.
Normandie
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by gary217:
“...and if you've ever listened to his show (I've been unfortunate enough to hear his show a number of times due to youngsters in the car) it is based a lot on irreverent and mickey taking humour, so there is a real danger that he just sees this as a bit of a wind-up...much like his spoof phone calls etc.”

A lot of his humour is nasty and belittles people - eg his flirt divert segment where guys are encouraged to chat up girls and give them the 'flirt divert' number to a R1 line. The resulting messages from women expressing the hope that the guy whose number they took wants to see them again isn't pretty listening. The messages are played on air as the Mills' hangers-on in the studio giggle and make snide remarks. I've always thought he was a Moyles wannabee. Though I doubt he wants to be any more.

Originally Posted by gary217:
“...I expect many of his voters don't really watch but will vote just for fun. They probably, in a teenage sort of way, also think his bad dancing is comic.”

And if Mills does stay in and there's an increasing media clamour for him to go, then his listeners may keep voting because it's smart and edgy to wind up all the really stupid Strictly viewers. Innit.

I think his fans will eventually get bored, move on to something else and then he'll go.

Originally Posted by Brighton Babe:
“... I will admit to voting for him because I would prefer him to stay over Judy Murray. Soz ”

There's a plan that proven to be flawed.
lundavra
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by Bonnie Scotland:
“Come on guys are some of you really that naive? ... of COURSE they want a mix of abilities from potentially great all the way down to potentially hopeless. As i mentioned in another thread it's first and foremost an entertainment show. They want (and need) a mix of abilities to instigate drama, upsets, anger, debate etc.

all these shows benefit from duffers whether you personally think so or not ”

I don't mind the 'duffers', but I like it when they accept that they are not going to win and just going to have some fun for a few weeks. I sometimes think Scott believes he could win if people were not somehow biased against him.
Penfolds_place
28-10-2014
Originally Posted by MayD:
“No it doesn't

Are you really saying that the program would be better with a couple of 'out of their depth duffers' rather than contestants (there is a clue in that word) that allow us to watch good dancers. They may not start good but it is not beyond the producers to invite significantly more prospects than the program starts with and select the ones with a hope in hell's chance of cutting the mustard. The professions could be the judges that pick the 15 and (if necessary) the producers could allocate them to the professionals to compete”

Personally I wouldn't watch if they were all good dancers, that's never been the attraction for me. I wouldn't want a bad dancer to win, but the show needs a range of abilities.
Anightlikethis
28-10-2014
Irritates me how he now seems to deliberately get it wrong yet is surprised when the judges tell him he's rubbish.
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