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do scotts voters actually watch?
I'm guessing most of them are radio 1 listeners , in which case probably not. Explains everything
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The thing about Scott is that he does have good coverage via R1 and if you've ever listened to his show (I've been unfortunate enough to hear his show a number of times due to youngsters in the car) it is based a lot on irreverent and mickey taking humour, so there is a real danger that he just sees this as a bit of a wind-up...much like his spoof phone calls etc. I expect many of his voters don't really watch but will vote just for fun. They probably, in a teenage sort of way, also think his bad dancing is comic.
So, if his radio audience keep voting for him he's unlikely to do a 'John Sargeant' as it will be seen as a good teenage wind-up of the Strictly audience. He's getting old for R1 so will be looking for popularity....however if and when the time comes that the Beeb say time to stop promoting your Strictly role (if they think it is turning adverse for the show) I expect he will do as told. He's in the transition age between R1 and R2, and he'll probably want a R2 job so will obey the powers. It'll be interesting to see how this one runs. |
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I'm hoping that production pulls out one of their magic manipulations out of the hat and send him in a capsule to a galaxy far, far away.
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A lot of his votes probably come from One Direction fans, or whoever else he is asking to get votes for him. I don't think if he wasn't on radio 1 and had that reach he would still be here, people don't even seem to find him so bad he is funny. Just bad!
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The show needs poor dancers, it makes the middling barely competent contestants look better.
Watching poor dancers can be fun, but when they appear inhibited by embarrassment it becomes difficult to watch with any sense of enjoyment. Voting for someone who doesn't appear to be enjoying themselves (no matter if they are good, middling or bad) is a touch too sadistic for me but Scott is sending out very mixed messages Is he really that keen to have his face on TV that he would campaign to be kept in a competition that makes him feel sick?
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A lot of his votes probably come from One Direction fans, or whoever else he is asking to get votes for him. I don't think if he wasn't on radio 1 and had that reach he would still be here, people don't even seem to find him so bad he is funny. Just bad!
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The thing about Scott is that he does have good coverage via R1 and if you've ever listened to his show (I've been unfortunate enough to hear his show a number of times due to youngsters in the car)...
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Hey, it's your car (presumably), you listen to what you want!
Have you travelled with children/ teenagers recently!? |
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Have you travelled with children/ teenagers recently!?
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The show needs poor dancers, it makes the middling barely competent contestants look better.
Are you really saying that the program would be better with a couple of 'out of their depth duffers' rather than contestants (there is a clue in that word) that allow us to watch good dancers. They may not start good but it is not beyond the producers to invite significantly more prospects than the program starts with and select the ones with a hope in hell's chance of cutting the mustard. The professions could be the judges that pick the 15 and (if necessary) the producers could allocate them to the professionals to compete |
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May, your idea is the very best I have seen anywhere! I have often thought something along those lines but you have expressed it so well. Thank you!
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No it doesn't
Are you really saying that the program would be better with a couple of 'out of their depth duffers' rather than contestants (there is a clue in that word) that allow us to watch good dancers. They may not start good but it is not beyond the producers to invite significantly more prospects than the program starts with and select the ones with a hope in hell's chance of cutting the mustard. The professions could be the judges that pick the 15 and (if necessary) the producers could allocate them to the professionals to compete |
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The producers are struggling to get ANYONE to sign up, never mind 15 who can dance.
![]() Seriously though, I find that hard to believe. The only downside would be relatively poor(er) dancers would possibly fear being bottom of the pile. I could see how that would deter some if learning to dance and going on the 'the journey' didn't trump it
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Well I loved Widdy and Anton so I can't criticise - I did think their routines were entertaining, and their partnership was entertaining, and I don't find Scott entertaining in any respect, but I accept that others probably do.
Widdy didn't win, Scott won't win, it happens every year, I'm far more cross about the faffing and props and awful music choices so that the good dances are ruined................... |
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No it doesn't
Are you really saying that the program would be better with a couple of 'out of their depth duffers' rather than contestants (there is a clue in that word) that allow us to watch good dancers. They may not start good but it is not beyond the producers to invite significantly more prospects than the program starts with and select the ones with a hope in hell's chance of cutting the mustard. The professions could be the judges that pick the 15 and (if necessary) the producers could allocate them to the professionals to compete The BBC know by now that different things entertain different people. They aren't trying to attract the dance purist crowd. They're trying to attract the Saturday night eating-in-front-of-the-telly family crowd, the let's-give-this-a-try-instead-of-X-Factor crowd, and to do so they aim for a cross-section of participants based on many factors of which dance ability or potential dance ability is only one small part. |
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If it were a pure dancing competition, that might work (apart from the fragile egos of the celebs being unlikely to agree to a possible boot before they even start, especially with the potential for embarrassing leaks and "Not Good Enough For Strictly" humiliation headlines). But it isn't. It's a light entertainment programme based on dancing, with an elimination element involving public votes.
The BBC know by now that different things entertain different people. They aren't trying to attract the dance purist crowd. They're trying to attract the Saturday night eating-in-front-of-the-telly family crowd, the let's-give-this-a-try-instead-of-X-Factor crowd, and to do so they aim for a cross-section of participants based on many factors of which dance ability or potential dance ability is only one small part.
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With all those celebs queuing up to support him in his VTs I am waiting for Craig Kelly there to advise him on being less deluded
I think he might have organised some support, but now it runs on its own, people just love a good old car crash TV.
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He is a rubbish dancer and not even mildly entertaining but at the risk of getting lynched, I will admit to voting for him because I would prefer him to stay over Judy Murray. Soz
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He is a rubbish dancer and not even mildly entertaining but at the risk of getting lynched, I will admit to voting for him because I would prefer him to stay over Judy Murray. Soz
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Come on guys are some of you really that naive? ... of COURSE they want a mix of abilities from potentially great all the way down to potentially hopeless. As i mentioned in another thread it's first and foremost an entertainment show. They want (and need) a mix of abilities to instigate drama, upsets, anger, debate etc.
all these shows benefit from duffers whether you personally think so or not
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Who says you have to watch?
All you have to do is vote for your favourite. Nobody said anything about watching them dance. |
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...and if you've ever listened to his show (I've been unfortunate enough to hear his show a number of times due to youngsters in the car) it is based a lot on irreverent and mickey taking humour, so there is a real danger that he just sees this as a bit of a wind-up...much like his spoof phone calls etc.
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...I expect many of his voters don't really watch but will vote just for fun. They probably, in a teenage sort of way, also think his bad dancing is comic.
I think his fans will eventually get bored, move on to something else and then he'll go. Quote:
... I will admit to voting for him because I would prefer him to stay over Judy Murray. Soz
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Come on guys are some of you really that naive? ... of COURSE they want a mix of abilities from potentially great all the way down to potentially hopeless. As i mentioned in another thread it's first and foremost an entertainment show. They want (and need) a mix of abilities to instigate drama, upsets, anger, debate etc.
all these shows benefit from duffers whether you personally think so or not ![]() |
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No it doesn't
Are you really saying that the program would be better with a couple of 'out of their depth duffers' rather than contestants (there is a clue in that word) that allow us to watch good dancers. They may not start good but it is not beyond the producers to invite significantly more prospects than the program starts with and select the ones with a hope in hell's chance of cutting the mustard. The professions could be the judges that pick the 15 and (if necessary) the producers could allocate them to the professionals to compete |
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Irritates me how he now seems to deliberately get it wrong yet is surprised when the judges tell him he's rubbish.
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Is he really that keen to have his face on TV that he would campaign to be kept in a competition that makes him feel sick?
