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Old 28-10-2014, 21:20
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So in tonight's episode it was mentioned that sonia hasn't met her dad which i thought could be a possible hint to Karl's inside tidied character. We all know and thing (or most of us) that he is andy but do you think he could also be Sonia's dad?

We know andy didn't stick around while Shirley was pregnant with mick and it
Doesn't sound like Sonia's dad did the same. Do you think this would be an interesting twist?
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Old 28-10-2014, 21:21
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No. I don't want yet another child linking two families.
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Old 28-10-2014, 21:23
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If this was Hollyoaks I'm pretty sure that's what they would do, it would be ridiculous for EastEnders to do something like that.
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Old 28-10-2014, 21:24
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Did Shirley and Carol know each other in their youth?

If not it'd be a bit far fetched for the same guy to have happened to sleep with them both.
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Old 28-10-2014, 21:31
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Did Shirley and Carol know each other in their youth?

If not it'd be a bit far fetched for the same guy to have happened to sleep with them both.
I would imagine lift canning town after impregnating Shirley to walford to impregnant carol but left again soon after not wanting to take on fatherly responsabilities.

It is a possibility but I don't want another link to the carters to another family (unless via a marriage of current characters). It was just a thought which came when sonia mentioned her dad.
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Old 28-10-2014, 21:33
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It sounds to me like another excuse to tie even more characters to the vile Shirley.
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Old 28-10-2014, 21:47
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Did Shirley and Carol know each other in their youth?

If not it'd be a bit far fetched for the same guy to have happened to sleep with them both.
Shirley and Carol didn't know each other no. However Shirley did marry Kevin in 1980 just three years after Carol had given birth to Bianca - Kevin's step-cousin David's baby. So they were both affiliated with the Wicks family during the same period of time.
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Old 28-10-2014, 21:51
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Sonia's dad is called Terry Cant and from what Carol said is he was abusive and use to steal off her.

Andy didn't know Shirley was pregnant.
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Old 28-10-2014, 21:53
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Old 28-10-2014, 22:01
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That would be a retcon, as Sonia's dad has been named. He'll be one or the other I presume, though I think Mick's dad is more likely. Sonia never knowing her father could have been put in just to illustrate how bad Carol's history with men is. Though Sonia should be grateful that Carol had 4 kids by 4 unrelated men, rather than being like Jack who had 4 kids by 4 women, 3 of which were related.

The other suggestion that's been around;Dean and Mick being full brothers; could actually happen as Dean's dad has never been named.
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Old 28-10-2014, 22:07
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Sonia's dad is called Terry Cant and from what Carol said is he was abusive and use to steal off her.

Andy didn't know Shirley was pregnant.
Ah. I have been wondering whether Andy knew he had got Shirley pregnant Would be interesting for him to arrive not having known that Mick existed.

I would like to find out about Dean's dad, Kim_x.
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Old 28-10-2014, 22:07
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Old 28-10-2014, 22:13
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What's up with the thread title
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Old 28-10-2014, 23:05
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Sonia's dad is called Terry Cant and from what Carol said is he was abusive and use to steal off her.

Andy didn't know Shirley was pregnant.
He was only discussed once, in a really good episode way back in the 90s when when Carol discussed all her kids' dads. Terry Cant was also supposed to have been a paedo, from what I recall. If they bring him back without referring to this, it'll be a retcon.
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Old 29-10-2014, 00:14
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He was only discussed once, in a really good episode way back in the 90s when when Carol discussed all her kids' dads. Terry Cant was also supposed to have been a paedo, from what I recall. If they bring him back without referring to this, it'll be a retcon.
Yep this was the episode >>Link
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Old 29-10-2014, 00:33
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Sonia's dad is called Terry Cant and from what Carol said is he was abusive and use to steal off her.

Andy didn't know Shirley was pregnant.
As in 'Terry, gimme my purse back you Cant?!!'
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Old 29-10-2014, 01:23
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I would hate it if they came up with such a contrived way of linking the 2 families. It's not necessary aside from anything else.

Carol and Shirley didn't know each other back then - Shirley came into contact with Kevin after Bianca had been born.

Plus as others have said, we've been told Sonia's dad's name and it was implied he did stick around for a while rather than being a very casual thing even though he'd gone before sonia's memories start unless they are going to retcon it.
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Old 29-10-2014, 01:36
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Yep this was the episode >>Link
Only managed to watch the first clip so far but really interesting to see it again after all these years. They all look so young! Especially Linsey coulson.
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Old 29-10-2014, 01:43
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Carol wouldn't know what Terry Cant was like, as Sonia was conceived from a one-night-stand when she was 23.

All of Carol's kids were conceived from different types of relationships. Carol and David were boyfriend and girlfriend for a few weeks before having sex, Carol was engaged to Gary Bolton, Terry Cant was a one-night-stand and Alan was a proper relationship. All 4 kids born illegitimately, a lot better than Jack having gotten two sisters and their cousin pregnant. James is Amy's first cousin and half-brother and Richard's second cousin. Amy and Richard are half-siblings and first cousins.

Shirley has 4 kids by 4 men. Though that is debatable. If she was sleeping with Kevin during Carly and Dean's conceptions, Kevin could be their father and not the one-night-stands. Andy is Mick's father and Kevin is Jimbo's. A guy named Daniel MIGHT be Carly's father and we don't know who MIGHT be Dean's.
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Old 29-10-2014, 01:52
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Carol wouldn't know what Terry Cant was like, as Sonia was conceived from a one-night-stand when she was 23.

All of Carol's kids were conceived from different types of relationships. Carol and David were boyfriend and girlfriend for a few weeks before having sex, Carol was engaged to Gary Bolton, Terry Cant was a one-night-stand and Alan was a proper relationship. All 4 kids born illegitimately, a lot better than Jack having gotten two sisters and their cousin pregnant. James is Amy's first cousin and half-brother and Richard's second cousin. Amy and Richard are half-siblings and first cousins.

Shirley has 4 kids by 4 men. Though that is debatable. If she was sleeping with Kevin during Carly and Dean's conceptions, Kevin could be their father and not the one-night-stands. Andy is Mick's father and Kevin is Jimbo's. A guy named Daniel MIGHT be Carly's father and we don't know who MIGHT be Dean's.
Carol and sonia's dad were not a one night stand. If you watch the first clip that Harlowe posted Bianca clearly says that she knew sonia's dad but not her own. That was a majorly odd ONS if Carol took 6 year old Bianca along to it! Carol did have a relationship with Terry, enough of one to introduce him to Bianca and Robbie before it went wrong.

Re Kevin possibly being Carly or Dean's father. Given how much he loved them, how desperate he was for them not to learn he wasn't their Dad. If there was any chance at all they might be, I think he'd have said so. It seemed from conversations between Kevin and Shirley that there was no chance so my guess is either they had blood tests done when they were babies (@erhaps to test for the disease Jimbo had) and the results showed they couldn't be Kevins or Kevin and Shirley had just stopped having sex. By the time they were conceived so he knew there was no chance.
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Old 29-10-2014, 02:41
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Sonia's dad is called Terry Cant and from what Carol said is he was abusive and use to steal off her.

Andy didn't know Shirley was pregnant.
I never knew this! Thanks for telling me
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Old 29-10-2014, 07:25
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As in 'Terry, gimme my purse back you Cant?!!'
Lol!

Hope he's not Mick's dad then, otherwise Mick might tell him 'fack off ya faackin' caant'!

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Old 29-10-2014, 08:02
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Thanks for the video Harlowe. Alan Jackson was such a stand up guy, Carol really let one go there.
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Old 29-10-2014, 10:03
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Carol and sonia's dad were not a one night stand. If you watch the first clip that Harlowe posted Bianca clearly says that she knew sonia's dad but not her own. That was a majorly odd ONS if Carol took 6 year old Bianca along to it! Carol did have a relationship with Terry, enough of one to introduce him to Bianca and Robbie before it went wrong.
Most likely, and I know how many people hate this word, that it was retconned to a one-night-stand. Carol said that she left Gary Bolton because he was a pedophile. Years later, it was said that it was because he knocked up another woman. Also, it could have been equally as possible that Terry followed Carol home and Bianca met him that way.
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Old 29-10-2014, 10:15
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Sonias dad is called Terry, not Andy.
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