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Old 29-10-2014, 16:24
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Would anyone agree America had a better music scene in the 80's and 90's.

This is my view after watching sound city.

But the UK has some good music act in the 80's like Frankie Goes To Hollywood and many others.

But sometime it was crap.

Same with Blur in the 90's.
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Old 29-10-2014, 16:30
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The 80's is a tough call, but the 90's was stronger for the US in my opinion.
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Old 29-10-2014, 21:33
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The 80's was my favourite decade for music and the majority of stuff I preferred came from either the UK or Europe.

Similar with the 90's, but I have always had a preference for UK and European music over the US, for whatever reason.

An exception would be one of my favourite genres of music, which is techno. There has always been great techno coming out of the US, especially in the 90's.
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Old 30-10-2014, 07:26
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no....
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Old 30-10-2014, 08:15
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Not so sure.

Nirvana, Outkast, Beastie Boys, Chili Peppers, Pearl Jam, Lauryn Hill, Nororious B.I.G, Beck, REM, Metaliica, Tom Petty, Liz Phair, The Pixies, Soundgarden, Johnny Cash, Wilco, Eminem, The Flaming Lips, NIN, Dylan, Madonna, Wu-Tang Clan, RatM, The Smashing Pumpkins, Jeff Buckley, Neil Young, Cypress Hill, Janes Addiction, Alice in Chains, Springsteen, Weezer, Green Day, TLC, PJ Harvey, Fiona Apple.

Just some acts that were all big in the 90's - or acts who released very strong albums in the 90's.

Not to say the UK was weak in the 90's - I just don't think it was as strong.
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Old 30-10-2014, 08:32
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It probably depends what music you like. I liked synths, electro and pop so for me the 80's was fabulous and the best decade for music and for UK acts, who made that type of music far better than the US.

The 90's again depends what you liked. In the UK early 90's was dance/rave mid 90's was britpop and late 90's was pop. In the US grunge took off as did hip hop, r&b and rap. I never liked any of those styles of music and still don't. So for me the UK was better in the 90's aswell.
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Old 30-10-2014, 08:34
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Not so sure.

Nirvana, Outkast, Beastie Boys, Chili Peppers, Pearl Jam, Lauryn Hill, Nororious B.I.G, Beck, REM, Metaliica, Tom Petty, Liz Phair, The Pixies, Soundgarden, Johnny Cash, Wilco, Eminem, The Flaming Lips, NIN, Dylan, Madonna, Wu-Tang Clan, RatM, The Smashing Pumpkins, Jeff Buckley, Neil Young, Cypress Hill, Janes Addiction, Alice in Chains, Springsteen, Weezer, Green Day, TLC, PJ Harvey, Fiona Apple.

Just some acts that were all big in the 90's - or acts who released very strong albums in the 90's.

Not to say the UK was weak in the 90's - I just don't think it was as strong.
I'd also add No Doubt, Shania Twain, blink-182, Foo Fighters, Aaliyah, Green Day, 2Pac, Alanis Morisette, Sheryl Crow, Janet Jackson, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Mary J. Blige, Brandy, Salt N Pepa, Selena
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Old 30-10-2014, 09:59
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Not so sure.

Nirvana, Outkast, Beastie Boys, Chili Peppers, Pearl Jam, Lauryn Hill, Nororious B.I.G, Beck, REM, Metaliica, Tom Petty, Liz Phair, The Pixies, Soundgarden, Johnny Cash, Wilco, Eminem, The Flaming Lips, NIN, Dylan, Madonna, Wu-Tang Clan, RatM, The Smashing Pumpkins, Jeff Buckley, Neil Young, Cypress Hill, Janes Addiction, Alice in Chains, Springsteen, Weezer, Green Day, TLC, PJ Harvey, Fiona Apple.

Just some acts that were all big in the 90's - or acts who released very strong albums in the 90's.

Not to say the UK was weak in the 90's - I just don't think it was as strong.
Polly Harvey is American?

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Old 30-10-2014, 10:05
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I'd also add No Doubt, Shania Twain, blink-182, Foo Fighters, Aaliyah, Green Day, 2Pac, Alanis Morisette, Sheryl Crow, Janet Jackson, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Mary J. Blige, Brandy, Salt N Pepa, Selena
I wish I was old enough during the 90s to appreciate these artists in their prime. I was born in 1992, but didn't really develop an interest or an actual taste in music until I was 16.
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Old 30-10-2014, 10:41
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The 80's is a tough call, but the 90's was stronger for the US in my opinion.
Agree.
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Old 30-10-2014, 10:52
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Polly Harvey is American?

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Lol yeah got carried away there, opps. For some reason I always think of Polly as American and Tori as British - it just feels right (even though it's not!).

I'd also add No Doubt, Shania Twain, blink-182, Foo Fighters, Aaliyah, Green Day, 2Pac, Alanis Morisette, Sheryl Crow, Janet Jackson, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Mary J. Blige, Brandy, Salt N Pepa, Selena
Although it's hardly my place to call it based on my own Faux Pas - A couple of those acts are Canadian.
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Old 30-10-2014, 11:19
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Put me down as a definite yes for both decades.
Couldn't call which was the best though - there was refreshing new stuff coming in all the time.
I'm really struggling with this decade. There's so little in the way of 'movements' driving things forward, and imo it's just utterly bogged down with endless recycling and domination by too few people / stagnant industry. We're probably 10 years late on some new driving force and direction other than technology - and I wonder if we'll ever see another one at this rate.
Hopefully that view is just 'cos I'm getting old and decrepid
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Old 30-10-2014, 11:42
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It's Apples and Oranges. New Wave, Acid House, Trip Hop, Shoegazing, all born in the UK with little or no output from the US. Similarily Grunge, Hair Metal and the whole pop punk scene largely US. There's more similarity with the manufactured stuff; Kylie to Madonna, Backstreet Boys to Take That , TLC to All Saints etc but I don't think this thread is about them.
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Old 30-10-2014, 12:26
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I prefer the music that came out of the US during the 1980s, especially rock music, but in terms of the 1990s the UK pips the US to the post.

Tricky, Massive Attack, Portishead, Pulp, Radiohead, The Verve, Lamb, PJ Harvey, The Chemical Brothers, Belle and Sebastian, Beth Orton, Manic Street Preachers, The Prodigy, Suede, The Sundays, Saint Etienne, Gomez, Everything but the Girl, Laika, etc.
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Old 30-10-2014, 12:53
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Not so sure.

Nirvana, Outkast, Beastie Boys, Chili Peppers, Pearl Jam, Lauryn Hill, Nororious B.I.G, Beck, REM, Metaliica, Tom Petty, Liz Phair, The Pixies, Soundgarden, Johnny Cash, Wilco, Eminem, The Flaming Lips, NIN, Dylan, Madonna, Wu-Tang Clan, RatM, The Smashing Pumpkins, Jeff Buckley, Neil Young, Cypress Hill, Janes Addiction, Alice in Chains, Springsteen, Weezer, Green Day, TLC, PJ Harvey, Fiona Apple.

Just some acts that were all big in the 90's - or acts who released very strong albums in the 90's.

Not to say the UK was weak in the 90's - I just don't think it was as strong.
I'd also add No Doubt, Shania Twain, blink-182, Foo Fighters, Aaliyah, Green Day, 2Pac, Alanis Morisette, Sheryl Crow, Janet Jackson, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Mary J. Blige, Brandy, Salt N Pepa, Selena
90% of those acts i can and do live without. i guess its down to personal taste but most of that lot are goddamn awful...

gimmie the human league, talk talk, xtc, smiths, 80's synth pop, indie, rave, madchester, dance in all its forms, britpop, anyday over american rock, hip hop, house, grunge, etc.
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Old 30-10-2014, 13:07
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Of course I competely misunderstood the thread title and just considered whether music in general was better in the 80s/90s instead of 'compared to the UK'.
In which case the answer is a big fat NO.

I'm off to hit me on the head with a 2x4
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Old 30-10-2014, 13:13
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I prefer the music that came out of the US during the 1980s, especially rock music, but in terms of the 1990s the UK pips the US to the post.

Tricky, Massive Attack, Portishead, Pulp, Radiohead, The Verve, Lamb, PJ Harvey, The Chemical Brothers, Belle and Sebastian, Beth Orton, Manic Street Preachers, The Prodigy, Suede, The Sundays, Saint Etienne, Gomez, Everything but the Girl, Laika, etc.
Some great UK 90's bands there.

Guessing by your username, you're also a fan of Martina Topley-Bird, although she did not release her own material until the 00's.
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Old 30-10-2014, 13:14
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90% of those acts i can and do live without. i guess its down to personal taste but most of that lot are goddamn awful...
Your right it's personal taste - and I don't enjoy everything on the list either, but it's extremely dumb to then state 'it's goddamn awful'.
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Old 30-10-2014, 13:23
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Definitely not and probably not.
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Old 30-10-2014, 14:09
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It's Apples and Oranges. New Wave, Acid House, Trip Hop, Shoegazing, all born in the UK with little or no output from the US. Similarily Grunge, Hair Metal and the whole pop punk scene largely US. There's more similarity with the manufactured stuff; Kylie to Madonna, Backstreet Boys to Take That , TLC to All Saints etc but I don't think this thread is about them.
new wave was originally used to describe bands from new York (which is in America) like the new York dolls and velvet underground and acid house started in Chicago, which is in America too
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Old 30-10-2014, 14:24
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Weren't British acts much more successful in America in the 80's than in the 90's?
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Old 30-10-2014, 14:25
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It's Apples and Oranges. New Wave, Acid House, Trip Hop, Shoegazing, all born in the UK with little or no output from the US. Similarily Grunge, Hair Metal and the whole pop punk scene largely US. There's more similarity with the manufactured stuff; Kylie to Madonna, Backstreet Boys to Take That , TLC to All Saints etc but I don't think this thread is about them.
Shoegaze has roots with The Velvet Underground, Dinosaur Jr, Husker Du and even Sonic Youth.
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Old 30-10-2014, 14:37
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Your right it's personal taste - and I don't enjoy everything on the list either, but it's extremely dumb to then state 'it's goddamn awful'.
why? its a personal taste, to me most of those acts are goddamn awful, it was a personal statement not an empiricle pov.
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Old 30-10-2014, 14:50
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why? its a personal taste, to me most of those acts are goddamn awful, it was a personal statement not an empiricle pov.
Well that's ok then.

I find it hard to understand how you could find the difference between the two countries so vast though. As I said I personally give the edge to the US for the 90's but there was a ton of great stuff happening in the UK at the same time.
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Old 30-10-2014, 14:55
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Well that's ok then.

I find it hard to understand how you could find the difference between the two countries so vast though. As I said I personally give the edge to the US for the 90's but there was a ton of great stuff happening in the UK at the same time.
im english.... the fads and trends we created between 1980 and 1999 were ours, created by us, pertainent to us. i could identify with the (mainly) guitar based music, it spoke to me. most of those american artists didnt produce music i liked or identified with. but i liked no doubt, madonna, foo fighters. but the acts i didnt like, i REALLY didnt like to the point of hatred in some cases. especially wailing bints.
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