• TV
  • MOVIES
  • MUSIC
  • SHOWBIZ
  • SOAPS
  • GAMING
  • TECH
  • FORUMS
  • Follow
    • Follow
    • facebook
    • twitter
    • google+
    • instagram
    • youtube
Hearst Corporation
  • TV
  • MOVIES
  • MUSIC
  • SHOWBIZ
  • SOAPS
  • GAMING
  • TECH
  • FORUMS
Forums
  • Register
  • Login
  • Forums
  • Gadgets
  • Mobile Phones
4G+ & 4.5G Lauched by EE & Vodafone
<<
<
2 of 4
>>
>
dangetti
02-11-2014
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“EE has much more spectrum to use for double speed and started their rollout 18 months before Three, so have more base stations deployed, plus their investment has been funded by I think £2BN, which is considerably more than Three, but of course you pay for that with higher prices.

I do have to ask what you need more then 10Mb/s on your phone for though. I know I am perfectly happy with 10Mb/s and the cost vs not having a fixed allowance.”

Guess its almost like a car, why get a £100k Ferrari when you are only driving around town with a 40MPH speed limit.

I end up staying in a lot of hotels, mainly when I visit London so tether a lot. Means if i need to download that large iOS update on my Mac i can do so, or if i want to download large files whilst streaming 1080p it has more than enough.
sb300869
28-04-2015
I am seeing Vodafone 4g+ on my Samsung Note 4 N910F model. Sometimes in Central London in Oxford Circuis however seeing it more at Norbury, Norwood, Selhurt, Thonton Heath and Croydon.

4g+ screen shot via the following weblink

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i...ew?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i...ew?usp=sharing
iTech
28-04-2015
Originally Posted by sb300869:
“I am seeing Vodafone 4g+ on my Samsung Note 4 N910F model. Sometimes in Central London in Oxford Circuis however seeing it more at Norbury, Norwood, Selhurt, Thonton Heath and Croydon.

4g+ screen shot via the following weblink

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i...ew?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3i...ew?usp=sharing”

Thanks. What speeds are you seeing, especially on Vodafone (I work sometimes in Croydon so am interested).
uno
28-04-2015
Well I was expecting to see it in and around Birmingham at the weekend but had nothing at which is very surprising considering Birmingham was meant to be a launch city live back in October
Stereo Steve
28-04-2015
On a more serious note, why are you guys obsessed with data speed? What are you going to do on your phone with it's little screen which requires a zillion megatwats per second? Surely a more robust service with a decent but modest speed would be better? Unless the networks are allowing you to tether and offer a sensible data allowance (100GB a month for £20 or something), what is the point of face melting speed other than that it's a bit of willy waving?

What can you actually do on the latest smartphone with 80mb that you can't do with 5mb?
Aye Up
28-04-2015
Delete post
plymouthbloke1974
29-04-2015
Originally Posted by Stereo Steve:
“On a more serious note, why are you guys obsessed with data speed? What are you going to do on your phone with it's little screen which requires a zillion megatwats per second? Surely a more robust service with a decent but modest speed would be better? Unless the networks are allowing you to tether and offer a sensible data allowance (100GB a month for £20 or something), what is the point of face melting speed other than that it's a bit of willy waving?

What can you actually do on the latest smartphone with 80mb that you can't do with 5mb?”

I think quite possibly this is the most sensible thing I've ever seen you post. You feeling ok?
jaffboy151
29-04-2015
Originally Posted by old bill2:
“I am all for new technologies. But let's get the basis first. Vodacrap and O poo still offer only GPRS where I live. Never mind the big areas let's try and get 3g to everyone first.”

Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Im not sure what the extra speeds offer on a mobile device, other than the "show off" factor of impressing people with speedtest.

Will it play TV content in better quality? no
Will the smaller apps on a phone that are 20MB come down faster? well yes, but it's already 10 seconds on standard 4G
Will browsing be faster, no

I can't see many consumer benefits right now over and above 4G, plus those 2 providers will no doubt charge an arm and a leg for it , and give you limited data packages so you can use it up in less than an hour even if you did download anything big.”

Have to agree on both counts here, get the basics sorted out 1st before upgrading the upgrades. Have been testing both EE & Vodafone this week as looking to move from three as I'm fed up of getting edge equivalent speeds. And firstly after day 1 I now realise how much three has fallen behind and how bad the service has got. EE have taken massive steps forward in speed and coverage. But as a good part of my commute is rural you soon find after you leave he dick waving 70+ Mbps your back with the old orange masts still waiting to be upgraded after years and having to deal with sub 0.5mbps speeds, Vodafone likewise but they seem to be be improving the fastest around here if from a very low base, still any masts to upgrade to even 3G but thanks to there 800mhz 4g and 900mhz 3G I was surprised to see I could easily maintain my radio stream in the car,. Something I've not managed on three for over a year now.
Stereo Steve
29-04-2015
Originally Posted by plymouthbloke1974:
“I think quite possibly this is the most sensible thing I've ever seen you post. You feeling ok? ”

My apologies, I shall resume normal service shortly.
M1kos
29-04-2015
And dont forget what does Speed testing do.... oh yeah it slows the network down!! not rocket science i not against the odd test but people who do it continuously should be cut off !!!!
planetf1
29-04-2015
Originally Posted by Ben_Fisher:
“For 95% of people just having 10 down and 10up on 4G is perfectly fine. The jump comes from less latancy.

I get 30mbps on 3G and 5-10 on 4G at home(crap 4G signal). Yes when its on 4G everything is much faster. Its like a 3G signal has to build up. If you watch a speed test it'll be straight at the speed on 4G but 3G starts off slow and slowly gets to 30Mbps. G.

This translates into faster browsing.


150mbps is useful for people doing large downloads and uploads and not just general useage.”

Latency certainly is key for browsing, but I think the actual latency for 4G vs 3G is only part of the picture. It's certainly less - perhaps as much as half, yet Three manage to provide very responsive web browsing whilst vodafone can't... so there's more to it in the provider's network infrastructure.

See latency and browsing at http://media.ofcom.org.uk/news/2014/3g-4g-bb-speeds/ ... though my experience from a comparison a few years back seemed much bigger than that report suggests... but consistent congestion at the time on voda 3G (even without the utter lack of 3G beyond towns) may have influenced my feelings.

The surprise to me was going from vodafone 3G to three. I can now drive and stream 320 kbps through the road network (well in the south,,, with a few minor exceptions). I couldnt do that on voda due to a constant shift to 2G
DevonBloke
29-04-2015
I was going to repost my 133.9 Mbps test again....
Perhaps this is not the best place then....
Oh bugger, they've cut me off!!!
Gigabit
29-04-2015
To be honest, couldn't you stream radio on VF EDGE, just about? I recall that I could stream Spotify on the lowest quality on VF EDGE.
jaffboy151
29-04-2015
Originally Posted by DevonBloke:
“I was going to repost my 133.9 Mbps test again....
Perhaps this is not the best place then....
Oh bugger, they've cut me off!!!”

That's why they've binned your microwave link upgrade and keep dropping you back to 2g Devon... All this talk of fibre to the mast is just a smoke screen to stop you getting drunk and kicking the cabinets in 😆
jchamier
29-04-2015
Originally Posted by Gigabit:
“To be honest, couldn't you stream radio on VF EDGE, just about? I recall that I could stream Spotify on the lowest quality on VF EDGE.”

i'm in a hotel where I can't see any visible masts from the car park, but Vodafone is full signal 2G EDGE outdoors, and EE and full signal 3G outdoors. Indoors only EE works, Vodafone is No Service. Annoying as I need my work phone, but 900mhz isn't working in this building where 2100mhz from EE is. Very backwards!
nafanny29
29-04-2015
This speed is so fast it turns soft rock music into hardhouse.

Seriously with a 1GB or even 10GB limit, there is absolutely no point in this speed whatsoever lol
Synthetic42
29-04-2015
Originally Posted by nafanny29:
“This speed is so fast it turns soft rock music into hardhouse.

Seriously with a 1GB or even 10GB limit, there is absolutely no point in this speed whatsoever lol”

100% agreed. The only benefit I see is to ease congestion, as someone already mentioned earlier.
Redcoat
29-04-2015
Originally Posted by Gigabit:
“To be honest, couldn't you stream radio on VF EDGE, just about? I recall that I could stream Spotify on the lowest quality on VF EDGE.”

In the past I was able to stream BBC radio over GPRS!
old bill2
29-04-2015
In one of my local towns of Saffron Walden. EE has just enabled double speed 4G and yet Vodafone still only offers GPRS. Not even EDGE. All the other networks offer decent 3g coverage. Vodafone are so backwards it's unbelievable in this day and age.
Stereo Steve
29-04-2015
Originally Posted by old bill2:
“In one of my local towns of Saffron Walden. EE has just enabled double speed 4G and yet Vodafone still only offers GPRS. Not even EDGE. All the other networks offer decent 3g coverage. Vodafone are so backwards it's unbelievable in this day and age.”

Same as most of the west country. They just haven't bothered with 3G. They say they are going to fully roll out 4G but they don't have a good track record. Time will tell. According to the CEO they are concentrating on getting places fully covered before moving on whereas EE seem to have more of a scattergun approach and fill in later.
enapace
29-04-2015
I honestly couldn't care about the speeds 4.5G or LTE Advanced brings its the benefits like CA and CoMP which I find useful. Just as I find WiFi Calling and VoLTE to be useful long as I have a nice reliable average speed the 4G coverage itself is far more important.
sb300869
02-06-2015
Originally Posted by iTech:
“Thanks. What speeds are you seeing, especially on Vodafone (I work sometimes in Croydon so am interested).”


About 71 download speed on Vodafone 4G+ , at West Croydon area.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?...kE&usp=sharing
iTech
02-06-2015
Originally Posted by sb300869:
“About 71 download speed on Vodafone 4G+ , at West Croydon area.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?...kE&usp=sharing”

Looks good, what phone are you using? I'm in Croydon with a 6 Plus so I suppose I'm not getting those speeds because the phone can't handle the bands?
jchamier
02-06-2015
Originally Posted by sb300869:
“About 71 download speed on Vodafone 4G+ , at West Croydon area.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?...kE&usp=sharing”

EE's normal 4G in a double speed area on an iPhone 6 managed 74mbps last weekend, so 4G+ should be able to go faster than that, I would have thought.

More likely in Croydon you have a lot of other users on the network.
DevonBloke
02-06-2015
Originally Posted by iTech:
“Looks good, what phone are you using? I'm in Croydon with a 6 Plus so I suppose I'm not getting those speeds because the phone can't handle the bands?”

4G+ uses carrier aggregation. iPhone 6/6+ can't do it.
However, as jc says, 71 is just an average speed for 4G+.
I regularly get 80+ on iPhone 6 just with double speed 4G.
Fastest was 134 Mbps!!

I love posting this
Standard 4G 20Mhz double speed. iPhone 6. EE mast on A38 just outside Ashburton.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ltgu130e2c...34meg.png?dl=0
<<
<
2 of 4
>>
>
VIEW DESKTOP SITE TOP

JOIN US HERE

  • Facebook
  • Twitter

Hearst Corporation

Hearst Corporation

DIGITAL SPY, PART OF THE HEARST UK ENTERTAINMENT NETWORK

© 2015 Hearst Magazines UK is the trading name of the National Magazine Company Ltd, 72 Broadwick Street, London, W1F 9EP. Registered in England 112955. All rights reserved.

  • Terms & Conditions
  • Privacy Policy
  • Cookie Policy
  • Complaints
  • Site Map