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Old 02-06-2015, 22:54
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4G+ uses carrier aggregation. iPhone 6/6+ can't do it.
However, as jc says, 71 is just an average speed for 4G+.
I regularly get 80+ on iPhone 6 just with double speed 4G.
Fastest was 134 Mbps!!

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Standard 4G 20Mhz double speed. iPhone 6. EE mast on A38 just outside Ashburton.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ltgu130e2c...34meg.png?dl=0
Wow! Fastest I got (when on the EE 100G card) was 92 meg. I'm sure the iPhone 6S and PlusS will have this facility.
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Old 05-06-2015, 19:44
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New record for me in London the other day. 180Mbp/s down in Victoria on Vodafone 4G+

https://twitter.com/mobilemandan/sta...42003580932096
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Old 30-10-2015, 11:26
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do ee limit their 4g+ speeds because ive never seen anyone on ee's 4g+ network get above 150mbps whereas vodaafone have alot of the time.
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Old 30-10-2015, 11:42
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Yep, been mentioned a few times on here if you have a read around.
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Old 30-10-2015, 11:52
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Yeah I think it's capped at 100 isn't it? Where Vodafone have rolled out 2600 it can be very good but they don't seem to have done much after they announced it a year ago.

On a side note I saw when I clicked on this post that wavejock made it and I would like to mention that o2 are crap just in case he still reads even though he's banned.
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Old 30-10-2015, 12:17
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do ee limit their 4g+ speeds because ive never seen anyone on ee's 4g+ network get above 150mbps whereas vodaafone have alot of the time.
I am not getting above 100Mbps on any of my SIMs, but another journalist said earlier this week on a trip that he'd got 150 on a legacy tariff from some time ago.

Perhaps not all plans are restricted.

I have the cap on the 100GB promo SIMs and my 4G Extra 15GB Mobile Broadband plan.
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Old 31-10-2015, 01:25
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How do you get 4G+ on Vodafone? Do you have to pay extra for that?
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Old 31-10-2015, 01:38
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EE PM is limited to 150 on CA I do believe.. I've had 140's several times. On DS it's limited to 100 as we all know.. However all set to change soon.

It should be mentioned that Vodafone in the London area have far less 4G users than EE and those who are I'm told stress the network less (EE has loads of Video broadcast accounts for media, etc which in some areas really can slow things a little.) Hence why Voda can achieve such great speeds more often (if we exclude th cap) there is nothing technically better about their network.
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Old 31-10-2015, 01:42
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Bugger me. Roll on 5G then!!!
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Old 31-10-2015, 01:48
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Coverage still crap in my area and still not expanded 4g further.
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Old 31-10-2015, 15:29
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I am not getting above 100Mbps on any of my SIMs, but another journalist said earlier this week on a trip that he'd got 150 on a legacy tariff from some time ago.

Perhaps not all plans are restricted.

I have the cap on the 100GB promo SIMs and my 4G Extra 15GB Mobile Broadband plan.
Oh ok thats good to know thanks.
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Old 31-10-2015, 15:30
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EE PM is limited to 150 on CA I do believe.. I've had 140's several times. On DS it's limited to 100 as we all know.. However all set to change soon.

It should be mentioned that Vodafone in the London area have far less 4G users than EE and those who are I'm told stress the network less (EE has loads of Video broadcast accounts for media, etc which in some areas really can slow things a little.) Hence why Voda can achieve such great speeds more often (if we exclude th cap) there is nothing technically better about their network.
So would ee completely lift their caps and is vodafone 4g+ or normal 4g speeds limited at all like ee's?
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Old 31-10-2015, 15:33
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So would ee completely lift their caps and is vodafone 4g+ or normal 4g speeds limited at all like ee's?
I think EE would rather launch a new higher cost tariff without the caps, but at the moment Vodafone 4g+ isn't limited.
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Old 31-10-2015, 19:34
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Hence why some people can post speed test results on Vodafone that are stunning (as in over 200) which makes EE appear slower than it is.

Clearly EE has more areas where you can get crazy speeds than Vodafone currently does.

What's more, I was in Radlett today and couldn't even get Vodafone 3G! 2G EDGE only, and 0.1/0.1 on the Vodafone net monitor app. Shocking!
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Old 01-11-2015, 16:16
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What handsets in the UK support this?
Samsung's Galaxy Alpha and Note 4
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Old 01-11-2015, 17:35
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To me it's the function I want to do and if it works is the most important thing to me.

Vodafone don't do any 'big' plans (outside of the unlimited trial) so what's the use of over 100Mb/s if you actually downloaded at that speed your allowance would be gone in minutes.

When I download a 5GB file from my storage at home I think nothing of it and it's down in a couple of minutes (150Mb/s connection) but I wouldn't dream of doing that on a 20GB capped mobile plan, otherwise 1/4 of your months allowance is gone.

This is what I don't understand, I have an unlimited plan with speeds of 5Mb/s I can
1) watch Twitch streams on 'source'
2) Watch Youtube in 1080p
3) Browse the web perfectly fine (pages load faster on Three than EE in most cases)

Can somebody explain why you'd need mobile speeds of over 100Mb/s on a 20GB capped plan, because to me I just cannot get my head around it and I think you're all barmy as anything...

Please help me understand.
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Old 01-11-2015, 20:11
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Just to add to the above, I have done the calculation at the 180Mb/s somebody mentioned above, you would use your whole allowance of 20GB in 16 minutes.

Even if you assume these much lusted after (by some) speeds of 1/2 that, you'd still only be able to use it for 30 minutes. I've had longer showers..... I've had longer ....
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Old 01-11-2015, 20:28
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I'm happy with what I have to be honest. I'm not sure if EE have done more work over here but it's unusual for me to see less than about 55Mbps - 60Mbps down and 40Mbps+ up. 1 bar signal now and I get 34.77Mbps down and 9.67Mbps up...
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Old 01-11-2015, 21:59
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Just to add to the above, I have done the calculation at the 180Mb/s somebody mentioned above, you would use your whole allowance of 20GB in 16 minutes.
So what?

In reality what it means is the user gets their download done as quick as possible and saves time and battery power,

What is your suggestion? That networks should throttle your downloads to a speed that ensures it takes the full 30 days to use your allowance?

Not even O2 3G is that slow...
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Old 01-11-2015, 22:14
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If I want to download some Spotify tracks, or download a film to watch offline (assuming I can do so, as some apps require Wi-Fi which is frustrating as Wi-Fi can be a fraction of the speed, if it's available at all) then I certainly want it as quickly as possible.

My phone likes to close/suspend apps in standby to save power, so if I have to keep the screen on and in use then it's definitely going to be a battery drain waiting 15 minutes to download a film instead of 5.

It's true what EE said three years ago about faster speeds not meaning people use more data, although what EE didn't say (but knew, and admitted quite openly later) is that once you get used to higher speeds and all the convenience it offers, you DO start to use more data.

All this is good if networks introduce higher data allowances, and can charge for them accordingly. And by all means have plans that offer faster speeds, just as increasingly Wi-Fi is offered on the same basis.
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Old 01-11-2015, 23:20
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If I want to download some Spotify tracks, or download a film to watch offline (assuming I can do so, as some apps require Wi-Fi which is frustrating as Wi-Fi can be a fraction of the speed, if it's available at all) then I certainly want it as quickly as possible.

My phone likes to close/suspend apps in standby to save power, so if I have to keep the screen on and in use then it's definitely going to be a battery drain waiting 15 minutes to download a film instead of 5.

It's true what EE said three years ago about faster speeds not meaning people use more data, although what EE didn't say (but knew, and admitted quite openly later) is that once you get used to higher speeds and all the convenience it offers, you DO start to use more data.

All this is good if networks introduce higher data allowances, and can charge for them accordingly. And by all means have plans that offer faster speeds, just as increasingly Wi-Fi is offered on the same basis.
Much more eloquent than me, you can see Jon is the journalist .
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Old 01-11-2015, 23:38
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Much more eloquent than me, you can see Jon is the journalist .
And that I'm used to being paid per word!
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Old 02-11-2015, 22:05
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To me the speed just doesn't add benefit. If you used the speeds people lust after you'd use your allowance in 16-30 minutes.

To me the choice is about speed or data allowance. EE is able to offer higher speeds by limiting users, if they opened up to permit unlimited data the speeds would likely drop, because users wouldn't be limited to set allowances and wouldn't have data allowance anxiety, they could just freely do what they wanted, not use wifi where possible, not do phone updates on wifi, not be careful about how much 1080p streaming they watch, more heavy users would be encouraged to the network etc.

My point is that once over and above a certain speed (streaming 1080p just fine) then anything more than that (especially if data capped) is largely pointless, and that I'd much favour data allowance and other benefits over pure speed. That lusting after silly speeds (who's got the biggest) seems largely pointless.

It might be good as a nerd to see who can get the fastest speed, but practically, in real world use on a capped plan it's really not a big benefit over a 6 or 7Mb/s reliable plan with maybe a less restricted cap.
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Old 02-11-2015, 23:03
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To me the speed just doesn't add benefit. If you used the speeds people lust after you'd use your allowance in 16-30 minutes.
You don't read, listen or understand, do you?
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Old 02-11-2015, 23:18
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You don't read, listen or understand, do you?
They think that because a speed test uses more data as it goes faster, so do app downloads, email retrieval, video watching. :-/
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