Matthew Cutler helped Erin out with Colins latin afte he was eliminated they actually showed training footage of colins rumba with matthew

Brendan definitely cropped up doing that - and James as well. Can't remember specifics though

Just because someone does not like a pro's way of dancing or their persona does not mean they are 'desperate for them to fail'. Who on earth thinks like that? Seriously?

It's a TV programme and it's supposed to be entertaining. We are all entitled to have favourites and others we think are a bit 'meh' No big deal.

That's it - those are what I remember. Like you, still no specifics in mind........

I'm just glad she got through it without him injuring her. Now as for Ola.... I'm still worried

She was also the one who had a lot of help training her celebs from what I've heard...

I came back to say I still can't find the article but I did read it,

However I really want to take issue with this, I never wanted Joanne to fail why would I?

I was hoping since she was a champion we would get mesmerising dances like we get with Iveta and some excellent choreography.

I also hoped that she would be the antithesis of Kevin , whom I find overdances and makes the dances about him rather than showcasing his celeb.

Instead, her choreographic choices right from the start were really odd, I don't think she really helped her celeb much, the long strings of steps in the dances given earlier in the thread confirm this. If you have a really poor pupil surely you would simplify routines so they can learn to do something well. It is a basic educational process. If someone struggles with learning something simplify it.

I also find she dances to show off what she can do to distract from what Scott could not do, I realise it is a common tactic by the other pros , it does not mean I am not annoyed when I notice it from them too.

Whether Joanne is really the person she is showing on SCD the little girl lost persona, grates on me. I also suspect that no champion would be a champion without determination intelligence and guts, so I don't even think the personality she is portraying is really how she is.

I adored the dance that the did with Anton the other week for that reason alone she could come back again next year, but quite frankly one of the other girls could have done as well and so I have no interest in seeing her back.

IF she were to come back next year I really hope she would take the time to find out what went wrong with her time on SCD this year, look to correct things and return as a less irritating person and a better teacher taking into account that the competition is also a personality comtest and she needs to showcase her celeb and learn to fade into the background when neccessary.

Iveta last year got it so right with Mark, he was lumbered with health problems and dreadful themes and yet she showcased him well and taught him steps he could do to make him look good.

So no I didn't want her to fail. In my view she has and hence I don't see any need for her to fail with another celeb next year .

I think you're misreading her. She might be playing up the blunt northerner aspect but as a northerner myself I wouldn't take that as a lack of intelligence. It needed a lot of guts and determination to let Scott haul her around so unflatteringly in that Charleston


You're bit unkind requiring Joanne to the meet the best standards of choreography seen on strictly, working with one of the poorest ever dancers, and even rejecting the choreography this week that was amongst the best for a non-dancer.

I sometimes think her genuine excitement at being on Strictly is misconstrued as being an ~ickle 16 year old~ I believe I've seen batted about. Sometimes perception can be one thing to one person and different to another.

I noticed some said she doesn't do the choreography, does anyone have clarification or a source for that? It's all a bit confusing this lark

seems a bit harsh comparing mark and ivetta to joanne and scott - at least mark had rythm and a bit of go about him - Scott has not. Coupled with that they have had odd music and themes so very difficult to judge Joanne on this.

I dont see what she did wrong this year really - what would YOU do with a crab theme and samba with someone with not one iota of rythm in him??? I have been teaching for more than 40 years and mainly beginners and would not know how to get something on the floor each week from someone of Scotts ability

Yes - the bit where he was carrying her by one leg and she was waving the other looked fairly painful

Getting to week 6 with someone who has dyslexic feet was none too shabby. Anyone who has started a dance course would know how long getting 'reasonable' takes, never mind a showpiece routine for ten million viewers. Three or four days is no time to learn and perfect a routine worth watching.
Well done to the post listing the basic steps he danced (better than Alison- Len Goodman) and as for teaching and choreography being in the dance world I know Joanne taught all over the world, beginners through to professional champions, with choreography a serious part of a top teacher's job. Of course her own mentors suggested choreography and what happens is she and her partner discuss it, try it, drop it, change it, improve it. Choreography is not force fed.
I'm sure Joanne needs no help with choreography but accepts advice and suggestions from Jason Gilkison (head choreographer) and family. No sane, intelligent teacher would refuse to listen.
Scott was a raw beginner with no skills or background. I'm sure all dance teachers recognise the difficulties involved. Of course she had to throw in a few flashy moves because he couldn't do any!
Give her a break. Well done to her and well done to Scott for improving. They went out on a high note having done a decent job.

I really really disliked Iveta's choreography with Mark last year (and for Johnny Ball). I thought she did a lot of the things you criticise Joanne for doing (showcasing herself). This year I thought she produced some very good choreography for Thom. So a second series can change your perception of someone, as long as you keep an open mind.

What you see as ickle girl personality in Joanne, I see as unpretentious and down to earth. I've got to like her more as the series has progressed and she has good humouredly battled with Scott's lack of natural ability. Just consider, she could have put on airs and felt herself hard done by as an ex World Champion. But she hasn't.

Also I think that it is really exciting having someone on the show whose ballroom skills are at a very high level and are up to date with current technique. I hope she does a few more showcase dances now she and Scott are eliminated.

No I don't think so, she is as qualified as Iveta I think and from the start I think she showcased what she could do rather than teach a simple routine well, but this has been covered a few times.

I personally would have faught my celebs corner and told the producers that Scott was not going to be able to pull that off, if that was impossible I would have taught him to do a simple routine well.

I didn't think Iveta was much better this year, it should be 3 strikes and out IMO.

Joanne on the other hand should be back, with someone of Thom's potential.
It's not often the judges single out the choreography like they did with Joanne on Saturday.

Whereas Iveta and Mark had a paso to "I lost my heart to a spaceship trooper", a song I'm sure that was the envy for every other couple as it is the optimal song to do a paso to, dressed in a spacesuit and entering by harness. Or let's not forget a rumba to Goldfinger. Or their salsa, or their cha cha. All fantastic songs and easy themes.

Why, hello tea! How lovely it is of you to come back through my nose for a surprise visit!