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Danny Pink needs to stay DEAD!
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AaronWx
02-11-2014
I really don't think you need to worry about the kids. I've never heard anything so stupid.
Alrightmate
02-11-2014
Originally Posted by performingmonk:
“There's no way he's actually dead. The car crash will have been someone else being hit. Danny will have simply disappeared and his body is quite safe.”

I did notice that the body lying on the ground which had apparently been knocked down by a car was obscured by people so you couldn't identify it as Danny.

Similar to the mechanical man who fell to the ground in an early episode. We never actually saw him fall.
claire2281
02-11-2014
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“I did notice that the body lying on the ground which had apparently been knocked down by a car was obscured by people so you couldn't identify it as Danny.”

Clara was at the accident scene. No doubt she saw his body (we didn't because presumably he was badly injured to end up dying and they wouldn't get away with showing something so graphic). It seemed to me that several days if not more must have passed before Clara saw 12 again - she surely must have seen his body since?

I suspect the reason Danny is so cold is because his body is inside one of those tanks and has been converted.
icemetallica8
02-11-2014
If he was to survive I think he could be a good addition as a companion to the Doctor.

He's a bit cold, doesn't speak much but has plenty of morals and Is afraid to shout at the Doctor. Of course we now know his biggest regret and what he feels guilty about is killing the youngster. Perhaps if the youngster forgives him he could 'get out of his shell' and join the Doctor.
Kapellmeister
02-11-2014
Originally Posted by CD93:
“I assume one of The Doctor's options to save the world will be to delete all information stored in the Nethersphere.”

I'm suspecting something similar. We've had a lot of stuff in this series about how some choices are just choices between two bad choices. Maybe the Doctor will make the least bad choice and it's goodbye Danny.

That said, and I can't help but wonder if Danny doesn't sacrifice himself in the Nethersphere in order to 'save' the kid he shot in Afghan.

Either way, I think Danny ain't comin' home.
Kapellmeister
02-11-2014
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“Clara was at the accident scene. No doubt she saw his body (we didn't because presumably he was badly injured to end up dying and they wouldn't get away with showing something so graphic). It seemed to me that several days if not more must have passed before Clara saw 12 again - she surely must have seen his body since?

I suspect the reason Danny is so cold is because his body is inside one of those tanks and has been converted
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Surely people can't be 'converted' until they've been 'deleted'? And Danny has yet to delete himself.
James Frederick
02-11-2014
Originally Posted by Kapellmeister:
“Surely people can't be 'converted' until they've been 'deleted'? And Danny has yet to delete himself.”

His body could have what we are seeing is his mind he has to delete that
Kapellmeister
02-11-2014
Originally Posted by Kapellmeister:
“I'm suspecting something similar. We've had a lot of stuff in this series about how some choices are just choices between two bad choices. Maybe the Doctor will make the least bad choice and it's goodbye Danny.

That said, and I can't help but wonder if Danny doesn't sacrifice himself in the Nethersphere in order to 'save' the kid he shot in Afghan.


Either way, I think Danny ain't comin' home.”

Actually, having thought about it, are we even sure that the kid was really there? Was he just a projected entity derived by the Nethersphere from Danny's consciousness?

I don't see the point of the kid at all, tbh. Danny can't 'save' the kid, as I suspected he might, as the kid's body would've disappeared years before as Danny has been out of the army for ages.
indigomoon
02-11-2014
Originally Posted by Kapellmeister:
“I'm suspecting something similar. We've had a lot of stuff in this series about how some choices are just choices between two bad choices. Maybe the Doctor will make the least bad choice and it's goodbye Danny.

That said, and I can't help but wonder if Danny doesn't sacrifice himself in the Nethersphere in order to 'save' the kid he shot in Afghan.

Either way, I think Danny ain't comin' home.”

I was also thinking this.Somehow the doctor is able to offer Danny back his life but Danny chooses to send the boy back instead. Danny chooses the bigger prize redemption.
lilirose
03-11-2014
I love Clara, love Capaldi’s doctor and their chemistry and dynamic has been great. The main problem I have and which has hindered Clara for me is the romance with Danny. For some reason I don't buy it as some big love and Clara's "I love you, I love you" just don't ring true. Danny is monotonous and boring and his "romance" with Clara is not believable. There is no chemistry between them.
I don’t buy Clara wanting to leave the doctor for the plank of wood Danny. I just hope Danny is dead and he stays dead.
Irma Bunt
03-11-2014
How will we be able to tell, either way...?
johnnysaucepn
03-11-2014
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“True but Missy has shown up in different times from Victorian London (Deep Breath) to The Future (Into The Dalek)”

Except she apparently didn't really appear in those time periods, but within the Nethersphere virtual reality. She was certainly able to access digital information from those time periods, but since the Nethersphere is a Time Lord data transfer device, that might not be remarkable.
Corwin
03-11-2014
Originally Posted by johnnysaucepn:
“Except she apparently didn't really appear in those time periods,”

Someone put the advert in the Newspaper that got the Doctor and Clara to meet up.

It may not have been Missy but if it was she had to be physically there and not just viewing things through her Ipad.
nessyfencer
03-11-2014
Originally Posted by vampirek:
“As for 'doesnt give off the wrong message to kids'... I don't know there's something about a 10 year old Amelia wanting to run off with a man she has just met (and be in her house alone eating fish fingers and custard) that could be sending the wrong message to kids too.”

So what you seem to be saying, is that children should not take life lessons and role models from a science fiction show. Interesting...
Mr Majester
03-11-2014
Originally Posted by BinCat:
“I just want him to stay dead because he's a dreadful one dimensional character. Maybe if he turned cyberman he'd have a bit more range.”

I've been more engrossed in watching the mould creep up my wall than in Danny's character moping from scene to scene, I wonder if suicide hotlines go nuts after an episode of dr who nowadays due to this?
James Frederick
03-11-2014
He's not dead he's working in a supermarket


http://www.sky.com/tv/show/trollied/...ew-team-daniel

He didn't change his name either will not his first name guess once was enough.
darthtatty
03-11-2014
I thought the reason Danny was cold was that his body was somewhere cold-like a morgue.
Corwin
03-11-2014
Originally Posted by darthtatty:
“I thought the reason Danny was cold was that his body was somewhere cold-like a morgue.”

or inside a suit of metal in a tank full of water.
Sam Bell v. 548
03-11-2014
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“As I said if Missy did it they may be able to get around that by saying that as he wasn't supposed to die in the original history they could go back and save him and besides they have to so that Orson is born.”

AKA A cop out. Time can be rewritten when Steven Moffatt wants to. So basically, yes, if Danny Pink is saved it will be a cop out and as always there are no consequences to anything anyone does in Doctor Who.
Shoppy
03-11-2014
The Doctor said time needs to be re-written with precision ...

... Maybe Orson Pink will die dressed as Danny crossing the road?
James Frederick
03-11-2014
Originally Posted by Shoppy:
“The Doctor said time needs to be re-written with precision ...

... Maybe Orson Pink will die dressed as Danny crossing the road?”

That means killing their great grandson to save him.
elena
03-11-2014
Originally Posted by Sam Bell v. 548:
“AKA A cop out. Time can be rewritten when Steven Moffatt wants to. So basically, yes, if Danny Pink is saved it will be a cop out and as always there are no consequences to anything anyone does in Doctor Who.”

One of the biggest criticisms I have of the show are the numerous quick fixes.

I got to like Amy and Rory together but still think the decision to kill him off only to resurrect him a couple of episodes later ruined the whole point somewhat and forever undermined what was a great bit of acting from Karen.

It's no surprise that their eventual writing out was moving purely on the basis that it was one of the few times in the show where it has been explicitly stated that there was permanence: they were separated from the Doctor and couldn't be reunited with him.
Shoppy
03-11-2014
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“That means killing their great grandson to save him.”

But wasn't he meant to die at the end of the universe before The Doctor saved him? ...
... so wouldn't it be fixing that too?

It wouldn't have to hurt if he gave him a dream patch
CravenHaven
03-11-2014
Now Dozy Pink is Deady Pink, he'd better stay snuffed it so I can watch the Clara Show again without this brand of tosh, but unless the earth has moved I have the feeling nothing has been achieved with him in the last few episodes either. Which means he's going to come back to make his 'point'. Zzzzz
CD93
03-11-2014
Why didn't he just jump over the car?
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