For me this has been the worst season yet. Mainly due to my lack of emotional connection with the Doctor. Capaldi's Doctor. Last night confirmed my fears with the Missy reveal, it didn't ring true, I'm hoping I'm wrong but I fear in time this will be the series in which Nu-Who is regarded as having jumped the shark.
Shark jumped.
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And for me and many others it's the best series yet there as been only one eps that was below good (Forest) out of 9 eps I have voted excellent 7 times good one and average once I have never done that before most times I vote excellent once if that.
As for the reveal I was so happy with it I did a dance and a yes chant
As for the reveal I was so happy with it I did a dance and a yes chant
This shark is a hollow robot shark controlled by the Master?
Or maybe S.H.A.R.K,
Subliminal Harry-Potter Automatic Role Kodak
Re-arrange those letters to spell A Tarmacked Outlook, Tally-ho! I Trim Superbrain!
That Moffat, what a devious mind he has!
Or maybe S.H.A.R.K,
Subliminal Harry-Potter Automatic Role Kodak
Re-arrange those letters to spell A Tarmacked Outlook, Tally-ho! I Trim Superbrain!
That Moffat, what a devious mind he has!
Originally Posted by Tassium:
“This shark is a hollow robot shark controlled by the Master?
Or maybe S.H.A.R.K,
Subliminal Harry-Potter Automatic Role Kodak
Re-arrange those letters to spell A Tarmacked Outlook, Tally-ho! I Trim Superbrain!
That Moffat, what a devious mind he has!”
“This shark is a hollow robot shark controlled by the Master?
Or maybe S.H.A.R.K,
Subliminal Harry-Potter Automatic Role Kodak
Re-arrange those letters to spell A Tarmacked Outlook, Tally-ho! I Trim Superbrain!
That Moffat, what a devious mind he has!”
Now you are just being silly
I think though what this means is
Jaws was a Shark
James Bond had a villain named Jaws
Doctor Who-James Bond crossover confirmed
Is this from the next episode? Does Dead Danny perform another unlikely somersault, this time over a fish?? Maybe that's why the Cybermen are in tanks???
Another thought
Fonz of course jumped a shark could we get The Fonz the Fonz knows Mork from Ork
this could mean only one thing
Gallifrey is hidden on Ork
That could also explain why Danny's great grandson was called Orson
Fonz of course jumped a shark could we get The Fonz the Fonz knows Mork from Ork
this could mean only one thing
Gallifrey is hidden on Ork
That could also explain why Danny's great grandson was called Orson
Speak for yourself, loads of people love this series, me included.
I know how you are feeling, I thought Series 7 was the worst Doctor Who has ever been and I couldn't understand how other people were enjoying it. Different people like different things, that is the way things work.
I don't think Doctor Who has jumped the shark at all. All they have done is regenerated The Master into a different gender and if you really think about it, he/she hasn't changed a significant amount anyway. The Master and the Doctor always had a . . . thing and she is still pretty cruel, making Dr Chang say something nice about her before she killed him.
I don't really think Doctor Who can jump the shark anyway, they can basically do anything and everything they want. It will never run out of ideas.
I know how you are feeling, I thought Series 7 was the worst Doctor Who has ever been and I couldn't understand how other people were enjoying it. Different people like different things, that is the way things work.
I don't think Doctor Who has jumped the shark at all. All they have done is regenerated The Master into a different gender and if you really think about it, he/she hasn't changed a significant amount anyway. The Master and the Doctor always had a . . . thing and she is still pretty cruel, making Dr Chang say something nice about her before she killed him.
I don't really think Doctor Who can jump the shark anyway, they can basically do anything and everything they want. It will never run out of ideas.
Indeed my friend and I am speaking for myself. I will continue to watch because as you pointed out things can turn around!
The phrase "jumped the shark" does not apply here.
It is not something you use when you're not enjoying a series.
It is not something you use when you're not enjoying a series.
Originally Posted by Joe_Zel:
“The phrase "jumped the shark" does not apply here.
It is not something you use when you're not enjoying a series.”
“The phrase "jumped the shark" does not apply here.
It is not something you use when you're not enjoying a series.”
The Internet has taught me that it very clearly is!
Oh HOW I loathe that stupid 'jumped the shark' expression, and deplore how an expression based on an event in an AMERICAN show seems to have become so commonly used here nowadays.
Can you really find no better words than the pathetic 'jumped the shark' phrase?
Can you really find no better words than the pathetic 'jumped the shark' phrase?
Jumping the shark is when a show hits its highest point and then goes on the downslide afterwards. If the whole of this series has been bad, then it stands to reason it jumped the shark some time ago.
Originally Posted by doormouse1:
“Oh HOW I loathe that stupid 'jumped the shark' expression, and deplore how an expression based on an event in an AMERICAN show seems to have become so commonly used here nowadays.
Can you really find no better words than the pathetic 'jumped the shark' phrase?”
“Oh HOW I loathe that stupid 'jumped the shark' expression, and deplore how an expression based on an event in an AMERICAN show seems to have become so commonly used here nowadays.
Can you really find no better words than the pathetic 'jumped the shark' phrase?”
It's also interpreted very loosely now. Tends to be used when something happens that someone doesn't like.
Unless a significant proportion of a programmes audience are in agreement that that particular event marks the future decline of the show, I'd hazard you can't say it's jumped the shark. Taken at its purest, I'm not sure there have been that many'agreed' jump the shark moments.. A lot appear to me to have been decided on in retrospect
Originally Posted by The_Judge_:
“I never heard this phrase before till last night, weird ....”
“I never heard this phrase before till last night, weird ....”
I first heard it on Two Pints of Lager, where it was somewhat literally appropriated...
Originally Posted by Aneechik:
“Jumping the shark is when a show hits its highest point and then goes on the downslide afterwards. If the whole of this series has been bad, then it stands to reason it jumped the shark some time ago.”
“Jumping the shark is when a show hits its highest point and then goes on the downslide afterwards. If the whole of this series has been bad, then it stands to reason it jumped the shark some time ago.”
Doesn't the phrase refer to the fact that the show is already on the downward slide when a gimmick is introduced (such as Fonzie water-skiing over the shark) that is out of place in the show. Seeing as nothing is really really impossible in science-fiction, I don't see it as being an issue. It may feel like a gimmick but it doesn't undermine the show or suggest a bit change in the focus of the show.
An obvious one would be Waterloo Road- set in a Northern comprehensive that is suddenly transported to Scotland, retaining most of its staff and students. The show was now being filmed in Scotland but the massive leap of logic killed the show and moved it too far away from its original premise as a comedy-drama about life in a comprehensive and how staffroom politics and the politics of education affect teachers and pupils.
Originally Posted by Joe_Zel:
“The phrase "jumped the shark" does not apply here.
It is not something you use when you're not enjoying a series.”
“The phrase "jumped the shark" does not apply here.
It is not something you use when you're not enjoying a series.”
I'm using the phrase as a consequence of my lack of enjoyment of this series (in my opinion I consider this series to have been a sustained disappointment) with the actual 'shark jump' to have been the Missy/Master reveal. Let me also caveat my comments that it is entirely likely next week that Mr Moffat will produce something of wonder and I will be left cursing my haste I expressing my disappointment.
PS 'jumping the shark' does indeed apply here but thank you for commenting.
Originally Posted by marksith:
“I'm using the phrase as a consequence of my lack of enjoyment of this series (in my opinion I consider this series to have been a sustained disappointment) with the actual 'shark jump' to have been the Missy/Master reveal. Let me also caveat my comments that it is entirely likely next week that Mr Moffat will produce something of wonder and I will be left cursing my haste I expressing my disappointment.
PS 'jumping the shark' does indeed apply here but thank you for commenting.”
“I'm using the phrase as a consequence of my lack of enjoyment of this series (in my opinion I consider this series to have been a sustained disappointment) with the actual 'shark jump' to have been the Missy/Master reveal. Let me also caveat my comments that it is entirely likely next week that Mr Moffat will produce something of wonder and I will be left cursing my haste I expressing my disappointment.
PS 'jumping the shark' does indeed apply here but thank you for commenting.”
The 'Shark Jump' (Missy in your case) is supposed to have been the beginning of the decline yet apparently you hated the whole series so no it does not really fit.
If the show goes down in quality after the Missy story and I don't see any reason why it should, that would be jumping the shark.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...umpingTheShark
Originally Posted by marksith:
“For me this has been the worst season yet. Mainly due to my lack of emotional connection with the Doctor. Capaldi's Doctor. Last night confirmed my fears with the Missy reveal, it didn't ring true, I'm hoping I'm wrong but I fear in time this will be the series in which Nu-Who is regarded as having jumped the shark.”
“For me this has been the worst season yet. Mainly due to my lack of emotional connection with the Doctor. Capaldi's Doctor. Last night confirmed my fears with the Missy reveal, it didn't ring true, I'm hoping I'm wrong but I fear in time this will be the series in which Nu-Who is regarded as having jumped the shark.”
How is what you describe an example of 'Jumping the Shark'?
'Jumping the Shark' doesn't mean that you don't emotionally connect with a story.
That simply isn't what the term means.
Originally Posted by lady_xanax:
“Doesn't the phrase refer to the fact that the show is already on the downward slide when a gimmick is introduced (such as Fonzie water-skiing over the shark) that is out of place in the show. Seeing as nothing is really really impossible in science-fiction, I don't see it as being an issue. It may feel like a gimmick but it doesn't undermine the show or suggest a bit change in the focus of the show.
An obvious one would be Waterloo Road- set in a Northern comprehensive that is suddenly transported to Scotland, retaining most of its staff and students. The show was now being filmed in Scotland but the massive leap of logic killed the show and moved it too far away from its original premise as a comedy-drama about life in a comprehensive and how staffroom politics and the politics of education affect teachers and pupils.”
“Doesn't the phrase refer to the fact that the show is already on the downward slide when a gimmick is introduced (such as Fonzie water-skiing over the shark) that is out of place in the show. Seeing as nothing is really really impossible in science-fiction, I don't see it as being an issue. It may feel like a gimmick but it doesn't undermine the show or suggest a bit change in the focus of the show.
An obvious one would be Waterloo Road- set in a Northern comprehensive that is suddenly transported to Scotland, retaining most of its staff and students. The show was now being filmed in Scotland but the massive leap of logic killed the show and moved it too far away from its original premise as a comedy-drama about life in a comprehensive and how staffroom politics and the politics of education affect teachers and pupils.”
Your reference to Happy Days is of course correct: the idea being that an absurd aspect that was being introduced to the show, in retrospect signalled the beginning of the end of the show. The regeneration of an alien life form with different chromosomes does not seem to me to be gimmicky. Therefore the term is wrongly used in my opinion. It is also an irritating and hackneyed phrase and should be eschewed along with Deus ex machine (which should only be used in the correct literary sense).
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