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Simon Cowell And Stereo Kicks
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Jack_Ramone
03-11-2014
Originally Posted by drakhen:
“You only have to look at Union J who have had mediocre success after the show - two low selling top 10s and an album that only barely went silver. And they look finished now as their last single had the impressive chart run of 9 > 74. If they managed to stay our of the bottom 2 until live show 4, it doesn't bode well for Stereo Kicks.”

I quite like Union J, but I guess that doesn't mean much.
radiofan4
03-11-2014
Originally Posted by BCO1:
“Ella was also a 'shock' exit. I don't think anyone would be surprised or care if SK were eliminated.

OTY should be the favoured group this year. There is a massive gap for them because there aren't any mixed groups about, and they'd probably appeal to the same audience as SK without edging any other bands out. Simon's favouring of SK could backfire if they took off and could potentially finish off One Direction (just as they finished off JLS).”

Excuse me finished off JLS. JLS made a stratgeic exit to get out at the top they knew they had a short shelf life as a boyband so they did a couple of albums and tours, made their millions and exited . They were very very clever
ShAneOmaC2005
03-11-2014
Originally Posted by ucra girl:
“Where was the chemistry with 1D? Do you know how much stick and negativity they received on this very page on DS??? They were very unpopular and called all names under the sun on this forum.I hope you have been long enough on this forum to know its double standards.

1D were vocally weaker.Liam was a reject from the year before.They can be all praises on this forum for now but there was none at this time on the XFactor.They benefited from being the only boy band at the time to avoid the bottom 2.It was nothing to do their talent or charisma.Simon was their mentor which helped with song choices.”

I have to disagree with you. I think collectively as a whole 1D were better singers than Stereokicks. Sk, in my opinion have only 1 decent singer.. James, the fact they have relied twice on Barclay, yes Barclay, the man who came on the show last year predominantly as a yodeller to open two songs for them out of the last two weeks speaks volumes.. how badly out of tune he was both times. Sorry for me 1D were better singers, with better harmonies had more composure onstage and better stage presence. I am not by any means saying 1d are wonderful singers, they are clearly not that great vocally... but I really think they were so much better than Stereokicks at this stage, by a country mile.

I have my reasons as to why I dont compare them to Ella or 1D or other acts who did not win but got record deals at the end of it. I simply do not think they are good enough. I really think you are in a very small minority who believes in them, fair play to you and if they go further than I expect then great for you and people like you, all I am saying is I have seen nothing, nothing at all from them which shows me they can make it in the music industry, it is a tough world out there and they have a lot of competition. Competition which I think is probably too much for them.
wise-up
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by laurengirl:
“All the boys have amazing voices or they wouldn't be there and jake showed it last night with his rap .”

That 'rap' was part of the original song and it isn't even a rap, it is pink singing slightly faster.
wise-up
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by radiofan4:
“Excuse me finished off JLS. JLS made a stratgeic exit to get out at the top they knew they had a short shelf life as a boyband so they did a couple of albums and tours, made their millions and exited . They were very very clever”

Their last few singles and their last album bombed, which is why they quit. If they wanted to get out at the top they would have quit after she makes me wanna went to no.1.
wise-up
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by ShAneOmaC2005:
“I have to disagree with you. I think collectively as a whole 1D were better singers than Stereokicks. Sk, in my opinion have only 1 decent singer.. James, the fact they have relied twice on Barclay, yes Barclay, the man who came on the show last year predominantly as a yodeller to open two songs for them out of the last two weeks speaks volumes.. how badly out of tune he was both times. Sorry for me 1D were better singers, with better harmonies had more composure onstage and better stage presence. I am not by any means saying 1d are wonderful singers, they are clearly not that great vocally... but I really think they were so much better than Stereokicks at this stage, by a country mile.
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Bib 1- they had obscenly loud backing tracks with prerecorded harmonies and backing vocals which drowned them out during the chorus to make them sound better than they were.

Bib 2- They were not much better as performers. Watch their only girl performance where they had to do a little bit of choreography and interact with dancers. It was so awkward. I think stereo kicks performance of the backstreet boys song was stronger than that and that was 1Ds semi-final performance.

1D did have more charisma and more individuality than stereokicks though and a better look too.

I dont think it is fair to write them off too soon though, 1D were awful 90% of the time but have improved a bit (Louis is still dreadful and has a crap personality too) so SK could improve.
ShAneOmaC2005
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by wise-up:
“Bib 1- they had obscenly loud backing tracks with prerecorded harmonies and backing vocals which drowned them out during the chorus to make them sound better than they were.

Bib 2- They were not much better as performers. Watch their only girl performance where they had to do a little bit of choreography and interact with dancers. It was so awkward. I think stereo kicks performance of the backstreet boys song was stronger than that and that was 1Ds semi-final performance.

1D did have more charisma and more individuality than stereokicks though and a better look too.

I dont think it is fair to write them off too soon though, 1D were awful 90% of the time but have improved a bit (Louis is still dreadful and has a crap personality too) so SK could improve.”

Bib 1 (I really dont know what "Bib" actually stands for but ill pretend I do!) All of 1D's non chorus singing was better than SK. Go watch youtube. Thx.

Bib 2 .You think SK performance of the Backstreet boys was better? Ok.. Good for you, am I going to defend 1d? No. What I will say is how can u have overlooked how they totally crushed a song from a genuinely legendary boyband with talent? Like crucified it. If your are here to talk to me about singing plz delete this "bib" 2. rewind it plz.


Listen. if you think Stereokicks represent what the boybands of today should be then fair play to you mate. BiB this and BiB that but the bottom line is SK suck pants, sorry they have only 1 decent singer, and 7 lazy/untalented/badly mentored others, hell I Should not even be bothering to reply to this. Listen, I cant be bothered lol, I said my bit long ago. If they had talent and 1 thing I appreciate in life is hardworking and talented people, then I would be behind them 100%. This is not the case in this situation. I only care about the music which is pumped out to us and the future generation and the message it portrays. For this reason I am not behind them at all. No passion, no talent, no drive no inspiration for the following generation to take examples from. If we keep going down this road ... Well if your smart enough you will picture the rest.
wise-up
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by ShAneOmaC2005:
“Bib 1 (I really dont know what "Bib" actually stands for but ill pretend I do!) All of 1D's non chorus singing was better than SK. Go watch youtube. Thx.

Bib 2 .You think SK performance of the Backstreet boys was better? Ok.. Good for you, am I going to defend 1d? No. What I will say is how can u have overlooked how they totally crushed a song from a genuinely legendary boyband with talent? Like crucified it. If your are here to talk to me about singing plz delete this "bib" 2. rewind it plz.


Listen. if you think Stereokicks represent what the boybands of today should be then fair play to you mate. BiB this and BiB that but the bottom line is SK suck pants, sorry they have only 1 decent singer, and 7 lazy/untalented/badly mentored others, hell I Should not even be bothering to reply to this. Listen, I cant be bothered lol, I said my bit long ago. If they had talent and 1 thing I appreciate in life is hardworking and talented people, then I would be behind them 100%. This is not the case in this situation. I only care about the music which is pumped out to us and the future generation and the message it portrays. For this reason I am not behind them at all. No passion, no talent, no drive no inspiration for the following generation to take examples from. If we keep going down this road ... Well if your smart enough you will picture the rest.”

Bib means bit in bold (google could have told you that).

I wasn't saying SK were anywhere near as good as the original, all I am stating is that I felt they looked more comfortable last night than 1D did when they had a similar level of choreography during their only girl performance.

Also, you say 1D were better during the non-chorus points but that is because they were singing solo, a group should be able to do good harmonies so we need to compare how they sound during the bits where they act like a group (which is difficult because we could barely hear 1D over the track). If you listen to their Judges houses performances where they were stripped back, SK showed potential and were stronger in the group parts than 1D were, it was harry which saved 1D's performance, if he hadn't been there it would not have had the same impact.
Patti-Ann
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by ArtyAttack:
“The other thing they did that was quite noticeable was trying to prove to the young girls out there that they were the new cool band to love.The VT made a point of showing them being besieged by a cluster of fans. Hardly on the same level as One Direction but Cowell wants to project an image of success amongst their target audience.”

That was funny - the VT portrays them as having a 'buzz' and huge budding fan support. Fast forward to Sunday and they are in the sing off
drakhen
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by Patti-Ann:
“That was funny - the VT portrays them as having a 'buzz' and huge budding fan support. Fast forward to Sunday and they are in the sing off ”

They tried the same thing with that awful boyband Nu Vibe from Little Mix's year. After their boot camp performance they showed them being "mobbed" by girls and Gary commenting how the girls were going crazy. Then they get the boot in the first public vote.
CARA2000
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by Patti-Ann:
“That was funny - the VT portrays them as having a 'buzz' and huge budding fan support. Fast forward to Sunday and they are in the sing off ”

Same thing happened with Olly Murs. The PR machine was hyped up each week then he was in the sing off. Doesn't matter. If Scowell needs to target his products at the right audience and make money he will. The right audience for what he has planned is not the XF voter.
Satnavvy
04-11-2014
I like these SK v 1D posts - it's like two people arguing over whose shit smells the worse!
MrSuper
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by drakhen:
“Stereo Kicks remind me of when Simon tried to force that terrible girlband Hope on the public. It was obvious after they landed in the bottom 2 the first time that they wouldn’t work, but he was stubborn and only gave up after their 3rd bottom 2 appearance. Stereo Kicks will go exactly the same way. The comparisons to Ella Henderson are ridiculous and I’m not even a fan. She could actually sing and even at 16 was writing her own material. Stereo Kicks meanwhile have a few average voices, no coordination and little chemistry. If they can’t stay out of the bottom 2 with heavy support from the show and 8 lots of family and friends voting for them, they have no hope.”

This. 100%

I couldn't have put it better myself.

They're dead in the water. If not this Sat, then most definetely the following week.
ucra girl
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by Satnavvy:
“I like these SK v 1D posts - it's like two people arguing over whose shit smells the worse!”

LAMO funny enough they were the same people rubbishing 1D on their series.There was no love for 1D on this forum.
ucra girl
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by MrSuper:
“This. 100%

I couldn't have put it better myself.

They're dead in the water. If not this Sat, then most definetely the following week.”

Union J were in the bottom 3 times and they have not disappeared so work out your % again.
MrSuper
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by ucra girl:
“Union J were in the bottom 3 times and they have not disappeared so work out your % again.”

Well they're certainly not successful by any means are they? Union Who?!

Who are people talking more about? Union J or 1D/The Vamps/5SOS?

I stand by my post. They're sitting ducks. Now where's that shotgun?
ucra girl
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by CARA2000:
“Same thing happened with Olly Murs. The PR machine was hyped up each week then he was in the sing off. Doesn't matter. If Scowell needs to target his products at the right audience and make money he will. The right audience for what he has planned is not the XF voter.”



I am glad someone else sees sense.Why people think Simon is looking at SK as an XFactor vote spinning act is beyond me.The main aim is to get them as far as possible.They are in the top 10.

He can give them a developmental deal like Tamera.She was not popular on DS but who actually cares?
hannah
04-11-2014
What I think is not helping with them is the people who are voting for them are also voting for Only The Young I think one of these wasnt in the competition then the other would have lot more votes.
ucra girl
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by MrSuper:
“Well they're certainly not successful by any means are they? Union Who?!

Who are people talking more about? Union J or 1D/The Vamps/5SOS?

I stand by my post. They're sitting ducks. Now where's that shotgun? ”




What are talking about?? This is a debate on a forum.You can stand by your post,it does affect my opinion. Who is 5SOS anyway never heard of them???
drakhen
05-11-2014
Originally Posted by ucra girl:
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What are talking about?? This is a debate on a forum.You can stand by your post,it does affect my opinion. Who is 5SOS anyway never heard of them???”

5 Seconds of Summer. Australian boyband whose album has gone top 10 all over the world, including number 2 in the UK and number 1 in the US. In other words, success that Stereo Kicks are very unlikely to ever come close to. So I'm sure you've never heard of them.
bh21
05-11-2014
What does BiB mean
marianner
05-11-2014
I have a feeling Simon looks at them as a challenge. To make a huge group work.
When they did Beatles, they were really cool, it was different. If they could keep them in that direction, they could make it to the final.

The problem is that Louis hasnt got a vision about them. He just sees a new TT, Boyzone.
They have potential.
Patti-Ann
05-11-2014
Originally Posted by bh21:
“What does BiB mean”

Bit In Bold.

When you quote someone and highlight one particular bit or word
laurengirl
05-11-2014
Originally Posted by Satnavvy:
“Oh that is so funny, stop you are making me hurt I am laughing so much”

Open your belt maybe your big belly is getting squashed
Milkita
05-11-2014
Originally Posted by marianner:
“I have a feeling Simon looks at them as a challenge. To make a huge group work.
When they did Beatles, they were really cool, it was different. If they could keep them in that direction, they could make it to the final.

The problem is that Louis hasnt got a vision about them. He just sees a new TT, Boyzone.
They have potential.”

Yes, I'm really frustrated with Louis' mentorship, he's really dated with his boyband vision, he always focus on lead singer, rather than each individual voice to compliment each other ..
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