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Old 04-11-2014, 07:34
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Shirley has been staying at a family caravan the whole time. When Mick and Dean attempt to persuade Shirley to return home, she refuses to return to Albert Square because she's hiding a mystery man.

I'm guessing this is Karl Howman's character and he is Andy (Mick's dad).

Reports have surfaced that Karl Howman's character is Phil's enemy. So will there be a new love triangle of Phil, Shirley and Andy?

Source; Soaplife magazine
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Old 04-11-2014, 07:57
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No more love triangles please!
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Old 04-11-2014, 08:07
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Oh how I want Karl to be playing Andy. I've been wanting to see him cast since he was mentioned.
The family caravan does tie into Shirley saying that Sylvie took her to a caravan park to give birth to Mick.
I don't think it will be a triangle and I don't foresee Shirley going back there any time soon but it would be interesting to see Phil jealous.
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Old 04-11-2014, 08:21
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Argh I think its so cliché if this is the case. Honestly its just so naff.

There should be an ad in every national newspaper.

'If you want to trace a long lost relative then move to Walford. You will be reunited after a period of angst and at the worst possible moment. It might not be all ice cream in the park but at least you can say you found each other again for one sweet final moment before the grand old Victorian curse kicks in and your ****ed over cockney style!'
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Old 04-11-2014, 08:24
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Predictable. I don't think its a love triangle because there's no way Shirley would sleep with Phil again after what he did to her. I think Phil and Shirley are over for now. And I'm shocked Shirley can easily find Andy as she hasn't seen him for 40 years :/
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Old 04-11-2014, 08:32
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I'm wondering if he is Andy then perhaps they may have been in touch at some point or something. I'm going to wait to see how it plays out and who the mystery man is before pre judging. (-which this forum has a habit of doing, I've seen posts calling for characters who haven't even appeared on screen yet to be axed. It's madness).
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Old 04-11-2014, 08:36
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I'm wondering if he is Andy then perhaps they may have been in touch at some point or something. I'm going to wait to see how it plays out and who the mystery man is before pre judging. (-which this forum has a habit of doing, I've seen posts calling for characters who haven't even appeared on screen yet to be axed. It's madness).
Karl Howman is a fantastic actor who will be brilliant in EastEnders. Its just the fact Mick will find out Stan isn't his dad and then we have a ''ohh hello here's your real papi'' situation. Its far fetched and is unrealistic in my opinion. Assuming that is who Karl is, but I think we can safely say this will be the case. Its so predictable.

Its almost as bad as when they almost made Patrick, Denise's dad but then backed out at the last moment because they knew it would have been too much of a reality stretch.
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Old 04-11-2014, 08:36
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Some happiness for Shirley ?.......I do hope so, whoever he is.
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Old 04-11-2014, 08:37
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I'm wondering if he is Andy then perhaps they may have been in touch at some point or something. I'm going to wait to see how it plays out and who the mystery man is before pre judging. (-which this forum has a habit of doing, I've seen posts calling for characters who haven't even appeared on screen yet to be axed. It's madness).
I think he is Andy because he started filming in September and should make his first appearance soon. According to the new issue of All About Soap magazine, Shirley is in a relationship with this new man. But she's so desperate to hide him from her family.
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Old 04-11-2014, 08:50
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Karl Howman is a fantastic actor who will be brilliant in EastEnders. Its just the fact Mick will find out Stan isn't his dad and then we have a ''ohh hello here's your real papi'' situation. Its far fetched and is unrealistic in my opinion. Assuming that is who Karl is, but I think we can safely say this will be the case. Its so predictable.

Its almost as bad as when they almost made Patrick, Denise's dad but then backed out at the last moment because they knew it would have been too much of a reality stretch.
I guess, though they may have a way of explaining how they met up on screen (if he is Andy). We don't know yet so I'm going to wait and see. I wanted Andy to be there for the reveal though so that is probably why I'm not too worried, it's only a minor detail in comparison to the potential drama in the future. Regardless of how they met up, I think Karl would be perfect as Andy. He is a fantastic actor. Good on EE for swooping him up.

I think he is Andy because he started filming in September and should make his first appearance soon. According to the new issue of All About Soap magazine, Shirley is in a relationship with this new man. But she's so desperate to hide him from her family.
That's interesting, I haven't seen the soap mags yet but It makes me think that if he is Andy then he doesn't know about Mick hence why she desperately wants to hide him from the family.

Some happiness for Shirley ?.......I do hope so, whoever he is.
Me too.
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Old 04-11-2014, 10:23
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Wasn't a caravan where she was taken when pregnant with Mick. I wonder if its the same one.
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Old 04-11-2014, 10:37
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Wasn't a caravan where she was taken when pregnant with Mick. I wonder if its the same one.
That was what I was thinking aswell.
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Old 04-11-2014, 10:37
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If he is Andy then we don't know how long it has taken her to find him. For all we know he could have lived in the same area all of his life which is not that unusual.

I hope there isn't a love triangle tho as Shirley deserves better than Phil.
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Old 04-11-2014, 10:40
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If he is Andy then we don't know how long it has taken her to find him. For all we know he could have lived in the same area all of his life which is not that unusual.

I hope there isn't a love triangle tho as Shirley deserves better than Phil.
Me too. I want Shirley to move on from Phil for good. I have been critical of Shirley recently but she deserves happiness : I hope her new bloke treats shirley well.
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Old 04-11-2014, 10:41
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If he is Andy then we don't know how long it has taken her to find him. For all we know he could have lived in the same area all of his life which is not that unusual.

I hope there isn't a love triangle tho as Shirley deserves better than Phil.
That is what I was saying as well, there could be a million explanations about how they got in contact again, if he is Andy.

She does deserve better than Phil and I hope this new bloke treats her well. She needs someone on her side outside of the family and some happiness.

Though if he is Andy, does he know about Mick?
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Old 04-11-2014, 11:07
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Of course he might not be Mick's father....he could be Dean's, or even Carly's.
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Old 04-11-2014, 11:13
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where she had mick? it might be the same plot but the same van after nearly 40 years???
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Old 04-11-2014, 20:17
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Sadly I expect Andy to be a short term character as TPTB will ensure that he is soon 'owned' by the Philth and then have Shirley reduced to worshipping at his feet.

Again.

She deserves far better.
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Old 04-11-2014, 20:34
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Andy doesn't know about Mick but I expect him to work it out and then threaten to spill the beans after meeting Shirley's 'brother.'
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Old 04-11-2014, 20:53
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Sadly I expect Andy to be a short term character as TPTB will ensure that he is soon 'owned' by the Philth and then have Shirley reduced to worshipping at his feet.

Again.

She deserves far better.
He has been pitted as a rival for Phil but I am hoping it doesn't come to the same conclusion of Phil owning him and like you say Shirley being reduced to going round in circles with Phil.

She does deserve better. And I hope this new fella, Andy (hopefully) treats her right. And there is no affairs or lying like when she was with Phil. A bit of happiness for Shirley please TPTB!
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Old 05-11-2014, 13:16
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No more love triangles please!
If it keeps Shirley away from Sharon/Phil, then I don't mind lol
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Old 05-11-2014, 13:20
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Phil and Shirley should just stay way from each other
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Old 05-11-2014, 13:29
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Urgh, i hope not.
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Old 05-11-2014, 13:48
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I wonder why the big silent treatment on who his character is, seems a bit redundant to announce him joining but not bother saying who, although I think a lot will be surprised it isn't Andy.
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Old 05-11-2014, 13:59
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I wonder why the big silent treatment on who his character is, seems a bit redundant to announce him joining but not bother saying who, although I think a lot will be surprised it isn't Andy.
They could be going for a surprise reveal with Shirley hooking up with Andy again. It mightn't be a shock to DS users but to your average viewer it would be.
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