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Claudia Winkleman's daughter rushed to hospital after Halloween fire horror
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Kmc1978
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“That's an opinion, mine is that the BBC didn't want the audience or the viewers to be distracted from the show. If saying the child was just, "ill" reflected badly on Claudia, they didn't seem to care.
As I said the use of the word "accident" instead of "ill" would have meant less criticism on here.”

Maybe Claudia asked them to downplay it to avoid media intrusion at what was clearly a worrying time. Even if it had 'only' been an illness the criticism would still be unwarranted in my view. It's not like there wasn't cover available & she'll hardly be getting sick pay.

Wishing Matilda a speedy recovery & good wishes to Claudia, her husband and kids.
Doghouse Riley
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by duckylucky:
“Even if they did what makes you think it was anyones business except the childs family”

You missed the point, because of the vague announcement, some people people on here criticised Claudia for "baling out" and probably some of the 9,000,000 viewers, would have had the same impression. No details needed to be revealed, "accident" would have covered it.
Still "each to their own."
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Muggsy
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“You missed the point, because of the vague announcement, some people people on here criticised Claudia for "baling out" and probably some of the 9,000,000 viewers, would have had the same impression. No details needed to be revealed, "accident" would have covered it.
Still "each to their own."
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As I posted earlier, I'm still struggling to understand why 'accident' is acceptable and 'ill' isn't.
curvybabes
04-11-2014
Awful news hope she makes a full and quick recovery.
Doghouse Riley
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by Muggsy:
“As I posted earlier, I'm still struggling to understand why 'accident' is acceptable and 'ill' isn't.”

Because "ill" could signify "something not too serious" and insufficient reason for baling out.
Remember, she baled out of ITT, to spend more time with her children.
I've no problem with that, but it could lead to an impression by some that she was over-protective.

You are welcome to your opinion, so perhaps you can leave me with mine?
mirandaweb
04-11-2014
Poor little girl. I hope they aren't too serious and that she recovers quickly. I imagine there will be scarring to contend with, but I think they can help reduce that in kids with compression garments. At least, that's what they gave my friend's little girl when she caught fire after brushing against one of those portable gas heaters at a similar age.

And yes, I knew it would almost certainly be something involving hospital if Claudia wasn't doing the show.

Poor show on those who ridiculed her for not being on Strictly (especially those who suggested a man wouldn't have missed it). Anyone would miss it in this situation.
mossy2103
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“You really believe the producers didn't know the extent of the problem which was why Claudia wanted to be excused from co-presenting, "the biggest show in television?"”

I would ask whether it is up to the BBC to give out what is in effect confidential information regarding a child IF the person or parent concerned had not given permission to do so or IF the BBC was unsure as to what information could be given out. After all, no-one outside of the family or the BBC has any right to that information without permission from the parent.


To me, it feels a shame that some seem to want to use the circumstances around the announcement to "have a go" at the BBC.
penelopesimpson
04-11-2014
All the best Claudia. I am sure it will help to have so many people wishing for the speedy recovery of your treasured little girl.
Doghouse Riley
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“I would ask whether it is up to the BBC to give out what is in effect cinfidential information regarding a child IF the person or parent concerned had not given permission to do so or IF the BBC was unsure as to what information could be given out. After all, no-one outside of the family or the BBC has any right to that information without permission from the parent.


To me, it feels a shame that some seem to want to use the circumstances around the announcement to "have a go" at the BBC.”

Quite!

No one knows the circumstances. So it's pointless to continue swopping opinions.
Muggsy
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“Because "ill" could signify "something not too serious" and insufficient reason for baling out.”

'Accident' could also signify a grazed knee and 'illness' could signify something potentially life threatening like meningitis or septicaemia .

Quote:
“Remember, she baled out of ITT, to spend more time with her children.
I've no problem with that, but it could lead to an impression by some that she was over-protective.

You are welcome to your opinion, so perhaps you can leave me with mine?”

Given your choice of words again, I think it's probably better if I do indeed leave you with your opinions.
mossy2103
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by penelopesimpson:
“All the best Claudia. I am sure it will help to have so many people wishing for the speedy recovery of your treasured little girl.”

Yes, count me in on those thoughts
Fudd
04-11-2014
Not that I want to be dragged into the announcement debate but maybe simply:

"Due to a family incident Claudia is unable to make it tonight. Our thoughts and love go to Claudia and her family."

The use of the word 'unwell' is arguably too specific and resulted in the complaints which plagued the forum on Saturday.

But at the end of the day it was a horrible situation for the BBC to be in and the last thing they would want to ask Claudia is 'how would your like you absence explained?'
Doghouse Riley
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by Muggsy:
“'Accident' could also signify a grazed knee and 'illness' could signify something potentially life threatening like meningitis or septicaemia .



Given your choice of words again, I think it's probably better if I do indeed leave you with your opinions.”

Hmm..

You could have done that in the first place couldn't you?

You seem to have a bit of a problem with those whose opinions differ from your own.
Pet Monkey
04-11-2014
Poor little bugger. I hope it's not too serious and her stay in hospital is short. Claudia and her family will get a lot of support and love from the Strictly team -- they seem a tight-knit caring crowd -- but what a scary time for them all
spotty_cat
04-11-2014
Of course we all wish her daughter a speedy recovery but I think that the BBC should have just said 'Claudia is unable to be here tonight'. The reasons for her absence are irrelevant to the general public.
coppertop1
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“I would ask whether it is up to the BBC to give out what is in effect confidential information regarding a child IF the person or parent concerned had not given permission to do so or IF the BBC was unsure as to what information could be given out. After all, no-one outside of the family or the BBC has any right to that information without permission from the parent.


To me, it feels a shame that some seem to want to use the circumstances around the announcement to "have a go" at the BBC.”

I knew exactly what you meant, very sensibly put
Rhumbatugger
04-11-2014
I don't and never did believe that an ordinary illness would have kept Claudia from her job.

I was worried about meningitis or something equally horribly serious. I am not surprised that it was a serious accident either, and I hope very much that the child recovers completely and the family cope well.

I hope the child isn't scarred.
duckylucky
04-11-2014
I wish the child the very best and them all strength to cope ,
Well done to Tess and Zoe for carrying the show when I am sure they were heartbroken for Claudia
Winsome
04-11-2014
I hope that Matilda recovers quickly, and that Claudia and her family are coping ok.
tobykim
04-11-2014
Top and bottom of it is that it's none of our business
BuddyBontheNet
04-11-2014
I think the BBC handled it perfectly and knew it must have been something serious, which is why I didn't take part in any discussion on the subject. Claudia won't be reading these posts, but I do hope the little girl isn't too badly hurt.
amelia_lee
04-11-2014
I guessed it would be something serious as she missed the show and I also thought that it may not be told how serious it was to give them some privacy.

Poor little Matilda, I hope she gets better very soon. I hate fireworks and pumpkin candles and sparklers, it's so dangerous yet it's very blasé in how children are allowed to be around them.
Westy2
04-11-2014
Is the Film programme still on at the moment?

Who's likely to cover if it gets to that point?
vidalia
04-11-2014
Sometimes we believe we 'own' celebrities and TV personalities because they come into our homes but of course we don't. When it comes to their families, everything else is forgotten because in reality they are just doing a job, like you and me. They have the same priorities that most of us have and children tend to come infinitely higher than sensitive fans or critics.

Like everyone else my thoughts and best wishes go to Claudia and all her family.
lundavra
04-11-2014
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“To be fair, that's how it might have come across to many, because of the way the BBC announced it. The reaction from some might be, "Kid's get ill all the time, get her dad to look after her, "The show must go on."

Call me cynical, but if the BBC had said "She wouldn't be appearing because one of her children has had an accident." That would have respected their privacy and prevented any criticism.

But I think that's typical of the BBC, to attempt to "play it down a bit for the sake of the show."”

I think any mention of an accident would get the press wanting to know more and with the way they work, they want someone to blame.

'Unwell' will not produce as much attention from the press.
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