Is it time for a cig yet 
Simon cowell isms
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Originally Posted by CARA2000:
“He is the most disingenuous person on TV. Exploits and manipulates.
If people find him interesting or humorous they have a problem. A big one.
He has ruined Saturday night TV with his tacky show.
Come on ITV, give us a break from this moron and his lackeys.
Fed up of his brainwashing propaganda fed to sheep who are daft enough to buy into something he has manufactured, a product that has no prestige. Plastic in every way.”
“He is the most disingenuous person on TV. Exploits and manipulates.
If people find him interesting or humorous they have a problem. A big one.
He has ruined Saturday night TV with his tacky show.
Come on ITV, give us a break from this moron and his lackeys.
Fed up of his brainwashing propaganda fed to sheep who are daft enough to buy into something he has manufactured, a product that has no prestige. Plastic in every way.”
Anyone entering the X Factor or any other contest will be well aware of the possibility of being "exploited or manipulated" - I don't think Ella Henderson, Leona Lewis, Olly Murs or dozens of other successful winners/runners up/finalists have let that come in their way. One or two might have regrets, but I'm sure most will have no regrets about taking their opportunity at fame and fortune.
How has he ruined Saturday night tv? 1 programme on 1 channel lasting 2 hours? Maybe we should all be watching heavy going documentaries or more "wholesome" (funny - the costumes seemed to be getting skimpier by the year - but that's not manipulation.....) stuff like Strictly. There's plenty of other choice and an OFF button if you don't like it.
Do you think pop stars and groups were NEVER manufactured before the arrival of Simon Cowell? Grant you it's slicker and quicker nowadays, but Stock Aitken and Waterman (ooh wait a minute, didn't they once manage Kylie who - err.. is a judge on a talent show? Ooh the irony) did it in the 1980s, plenty of others have - and deary me even Auntie BBC who churned out Top Of The Pops where the vast majority of acts mimed their performances - heck even their Producer Robin Nash had a say in what acts should wear on stage - wonder why The Clash refused to perform on the show?
Simon Cowell may not be innocent, but he isn't the first - and he won't be the last.
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“Anyone entering the X Factor or any other contest will be well aware of the possibility of being "exploited or manipulated" - I don't think Ella Henderson, Leona Lewis, Olly Murs or dozens of other successful winners/runners up/finalists have let that come in their way. One or two might have regrets, but I'm sure most will have no regrets about taking their opportunity at fame and fortune.
How has he ruined Saturday night tv? 1 programme on 1 channel lasting 2 hours? Maybe we should all be watching heavy going documentaries or more "wholesome" (funny - the costumes seemed to be getting skimpier by the year - but that's not manipulation.....) stuff like Strictly. There's plenty of other choice and an OFF button if you don't like it.
Do you think pop stars and groups were NEVER manufactured before the arrival of Simon Cowell? Grant you it's slicker and quicker nowadays, but Stock Aitken and Waterman (ooh wait a minute, didn't they once manage Kylie who - err.. is a judge on a talent show? Ooh the irony) did it in the 1980s, plenty of others have - and deary me even Auntie BBC who churned out Top Of The Pops where the vast majority of acts mimed their performances - heck even their Producer Robin Nash had a say in what acts should wear on stage - wonder why The Clash refused to perform on the show?
Simon Cowell may not be innocent, but he isn't the first - and he won't be the last.”
“Anyone entering the X Factor or any other contest will be well aware of the possibility of being "exploited or manipulated" - I don't think Ella Henderson, Leona Lewis, Olly Murs or dozens of other successful winners/runners up/finalists have let that come in their way. One or two might have regrets, but I'm sure most will have no regrets about taking their opportunity at fame and fortune.
How has he ruined Saturday night tv? 1 programme on 1 channel lasting 2 hours? Maybe we should all be watching heavy going documentaries or more "wholesome" (funny - the costumes seemed to be getting skimpier by the year - but that's not manipulation.....) stuff like Strictly. There's plenty of other choice and an OFF button if you don't like it.
Do you think pop stars and groups were NEVER manufactured before the arrival of Simon Cowell? Grant you it's slicker and quicker nowadays, but Stock Aitken and Waterman (ooh wait a minute, didn't they once manage Kylie who - err.. is a judge on a talent show? Ooh the irony) did it in the 1980s, plenty of others have - and deary me even Auntie BBC who churned out Top Of The Pops where the vast majority of acts mimed their performances - heck even their Producer Robin Nash had a say in what acts should wear on stage - wonder why The Clash refused to perform on the show?
Simon Cowell may not be innocent, but he isn't the first - and he won't be the last.”
There is truth in much of what you say, but it doesn't mean that people are not fed up with the process and desire an alternative to the primetime slot.
Prefer it to be confined to a channel less know and be replaced with something more entertaining during winter nights. Trash TV is not for many.
Originally Posted by CARA2000:
“There is truth in much of what you say, but it doesn't mean that people are not fed up with the process and desire an alternative to the primetime slot.
Prefer it to be confined to a channel less know and be replaced with something more entertaining during winter nights. Trash TV is not for many.”
“There is truth in much of what you say, but it doesn't mean that people are not fed up with the process and desire an alternative to the primetime slot.
Prefer it to be confined to a channel less know and be replaced with something more entertaining during winter nights. Trash TV is not for many.”
For me the show has lost a bit of sparkle (for the reasons stated on the "time for an overhaul" thread). I agree with you in that there are people who are fed up with it now (a few million according to the ratings) so it's def. not as popular as it was. Again, re other thread - but I will admit that even with an overhaul it will probably never recapture it's former glory.
XF like so many other shows must surely have a shelf/life span - perhaps it's on a downward trajectory from here and the show may be wrapped up in a couple/few years. ITV will know this but they are a commercial broadcaster making £profit from advertising - unfortunately (as the case may or may not be) trash tv is still here, enjoyed by many millions and until that changes ITV will continue to show it.
He starts off every sentence with " Yer know what"
and now other people, not just on X factor, are copying him.
and now other people, not just on X factor, are copying him.
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
“Anyone entering the X Factor or any other contest will be well aware of the possibility of being "exploited or manipulated" - I don't think Ella Henderson, Leona Lewis, Olly Murs or dozens of other successful winners/runners up/finalists have let that come in their way. One or two might have regrets, but I'm sure most will have no regrets about taking their opportunity at fame and fortune.
How has he ruined Saturday night tv? 1 programme on 1 channel lasting 2 hours? Maybe we should all be watching heavy going documentaries or more "wholesome" (funny - the costumes seemed to be getting skimpier by the year - but that's not manipulation.....) stuff like Strictly. There's plenty of other choice and an OFF button if you don't like it.
Do you think pop stars and groups were NEVER manufactured before the arrival of Simon Cowell? Grant you it's slicker and quicker nowadays, but Stock Aitken and Waterman (ooh wait a minute, didn't they once manage Kylie who - err.. is a judge on a talent show? Ooh the irony) did it in the 1980s, plenty of others have - and deary me even Auntie BBC who churned out Top Of The Pops where the vast majority of acts mimed their performances - heck even their Producer Robin Nash had a say in what acts should wear on stage - wonder why The Clash refused to perform on the show?
Simon Cowell may not be innocent, but he isn't the first - and he won't be the last.”
“Anyone entering the X Factor or any other contest will be well aware of the possibility of being "exploited or manipulated" - I don't think Ella Henderson, Leona Lewis, Olly Murs or dozens of other successful winners/runners up/finalists have let that come in their way. One or two might have regrets, but I'm sure most will have no regrets about taking their opportunity at fame and fortune.
How has he ruined Saturday night tv? 1 programme on 1 channel lasting 2 hours? Maybe we should all be watching heavy going documentaries or more "wholesome" (funny - the costumes seemed to be getting skimpier by the year - but that's not manipulation.....) stuff like Strictly. There's plenty of other choice and an OFF button if you don't like it.
Do you think pop stars and groups were NEVER manufactured before the arrival of Simon Cowell? Grant you it's slicker and quicker nowadays, but Stock Aitken and Waterman (ooh wait a minute, didn't they once manage Kylie who - err.. is a judge on a talent show? Ooh the irony) did it in the 1980s, plenty of others have - and deary me even Auntie BBC who churned out Top Of The Pops where the vast majority of acts mimed their performances - heck even their Producer Robin Nash had a say in what acts should wear on stage - wonder why The Clash refused to perform on the show?
Simon Cowell may not be innocent, but he isn't the first - and he won't be the last.”
SAW never managed Kylie - She had a proper manager long before she started singing full time
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