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EastEnders Danny Butcher
Son of frank does anyone know his backstory in shocked hes never appeared
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Claire butcher should be recast, Janine's sister.
Along with her family (husband and children), this could potentially pave way for Janine's permanent return in the foreseeable. |
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Does Danny Butcher even exist? I don't think so. Frank mentioned having a son called Danny once and it was whilst trying to talk Roy out of committing suicide when he would have said anything to help the situation. If he really had another son why wasn't he included in Frank's will? I don't believe Danny exists.
Clare Butcher would be an interesting character to bring back. She was a lot older than Ricky and Diane and a hell of a lot older than Janine. Frank's girlfriend June falling pregnant with Clare was the reason Frank and Pat split up in the late 1950s and what led to Pat marrying Pete Beale and having David. So Clare would be at the very least 55 years old now. She was mentioned as being married with kids back in 1988 so her children would be well into their 20s now and she would likely be a grandmother by now as well. |
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I think Claire's only appeared twice on screen, so she a untapped character, I think if Janine was to return it would be potentially a good idea, Claire from what was said had a huge hand in raising Janine.
As for Danny, I'm not sure if he is 'real' or not or was just a fake story Frank made up, did he tell Pat? I can't remember. |
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I think Claire's only appeared twice on screen, so she a untapped character, I think if Janine was to return it would be potentially a good idea, Claire from what was said had a huge hand in raising Janine.
As for Danny, I'm not sure if he is 'real' or not or was just a fake story Frank made up, did he tell Pat? I can't remember. |
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Frank later (2000-ish) told Peggy about Danny Butcher, so it is likely he exists. He said he'd been living with a girl named Gemma in Manchester, and she'd got pregnant. This was after he left the Square, prior to returning to Pat and Roy's on Christmas Day '95.
It'd be daft for them not to capitalise on it anyway, as Sid Owen won't be returning and it'd be good to have another Butcher appear at some point. |
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Frank later (2000-ish) told Peggy about Danny Butcher, so it is likely he exists. He said he'd been living with a girl named Gemma in Manchester, and she'd got pregnant. This was after he left the Square, prior to returning to Pat and Roy's on Christmas Day '95.
It'd be daft for them not to capitalise on it anyway, as Sid Owen won't be returning and it'd be good to have another Butcher appear at some point. |
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This sort of retconning worked as long as Frank and Pat were alive, but it wouldn't now. Without any other Butchers on the Square right now save Liam, I don't know how much of an impact Danny's arrival would have. Ricky, Diane, and/or Janine (or Clare, I suppose, but she's barely been seen) would have to be around for Danny's appearance and presence to make much of a difference.
Nonetheless, the name has been mentioned/used in an historical context within the show, so it's possible (maybe even likely) that Danny Butcher will appear at some point. Frank was always a very popular character and he does/did have family on the Square, so I wouldn't put it past a future EP to think up a storyline for this character. |
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Any character with the name Dan or Danny on Eastenders is doomed for failure
Danny Pennant Danny Mitchell Danby Moon Dan Ferrari I didnt like Dan Sullivan much either |
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I've been saying for ages that the Butchers should be built up again. When Janine returns I think they should bring in Danny or Claire and their families.
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Claire butcher should be recast, Janine's sister.
Along with her family (husband and children), this could potentially pave way for Janine's permanent return in the foreseeable. |
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Claire butcher should be recast, Janine's sister.
Along with her family (husband and children), this could potentially pave way for Janine's permanent return in the foreseeable. Claire won't return. She is not Albert Square. Danny should have returned for his fathers funeral. The only reason for him to move to the square would be if Ricky or Janine were around. |
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no i remember we had a spin off show with frank with week worth of epidodes called Perfectly Frank and we even met Danny think i remember him being quite the looker or maybe i dreamt that lol
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That was done in 2003 so Danny would have been 8 or 9 if he had appeared in it.
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you sure ? i remember somebody in it who was in there 20s could have sworn was franks son?
I'm pretty sure that Peggy didn't know about Danny either. It was in 1998 when Frank told Roy and Roy was the only character who knew of his existence other than Frank. It was during a 2 hander episode. They probably did have every intention of bringing in Danny and his mother at some point but Mike Reid left the soap so it just never happened and because of that the show seems to have left it in the past. |
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So Danny would be about 20
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I didnt like Dan Sullivan much either
1) Dan Sullivan was a great character. He's one of the few older characters I'd actually like to see come back, although there'd need to be a storyline which made sense for him to do so, and I can't think of one that would. I'm against characters coming back for the sake of it, as realistically who the hell would ever go back to Walford? 2) Dan was one of the few characters to actually get one over on Phil Mitchell. He won. Who else can you say that about? |
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Two things.
1) Dan Sullivan was a great character. He's one of the few older characters I'd actually like to see come back, although there'd need to be a storyline which made sense for him to do so, and I can't think of one that would. I'm against characters coming back for the sake of it, as realistically who the hell would ever go back to Walford? 2) Dan was one of the few characters to actually get one over on Phil Mitchell. He won. Who else can you say that about? Marcus Christie. Den Watts. |
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I'm not sure it really counts as retconning, given that it was mentioned at the time and didn't appear to simply be a cheap plot device -- at least not at the time. It's not like a recent EP has just invented the name so as to have some dubious link to Frank. Having said that, people who don't remember the original reference (which is likely most people, given that the name Danny was only mentioned about twice) wound indeed just assume it's retconning.
Nonetheless, the name has been mentioned/used in an historical context within the show, so it's possible (maybe even likely) that Danny Butcher will appear at some point. Frank was always a very popular character and he does/did have family on the Square, so I wouldn't put it past a future EP to think up a storyline for this character. I don't really see any reason that Frank would have lied about it to Roy - why should revealing a hidden child stop him from killing himself? Frank later telling Peggy would seem to confirm it and ii've a feeling he talked to Ricky as well but I might have dreamt that. His not being mentioned in the will is a bit of an omission but was Claire bequethed anything specific? It is possible that he gave him money prior to his death aside from the Will or that his mother wouldn't let him have anything to do with him. Other than establishing a relationship (either as friends or rivals) with Liam (his Uncle who is only a few years older than him) I don'( really see what point his return would have at this current time though. |
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you sure ? i remember somebody in it who was in there 20s could have sworn was franks son?
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Peggy did know about Danny but it was in 2002 when she found out not 2000. It was during the Frank's fake death storyline. They probably did have plans to continue it on due to Peggy finding it out and the audience being reminded he existed but Mike didn't seem interested in returning for long periods anymore and only returned one more time after that in 2005. So nothing ever came of it.
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you sure ? i remember somebody in it who was in there 20s could have sworn was franks son?
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May as well say it now:
They should bring him in to be Johnny's boyfriend. |
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you sure ? i remember somebody in it who was in there 20s could have sworn was franks son?
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