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Maybe they should have kept unlimited tethering but with a harsh speed reduction once you've used 2 or 4GB. Virgin Mobile advertises "unlimited" data, with speeds reduced to only 384k if you use over 3.5GB in a month, not sure if that included tethering.
Other countries do this and yet the UK doesn't. Sure we have data add ons but we could have both data add ons and fixed data allowance with capped speeds once you exceed the allowance. Taiwan does it just fine. |
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Three are only exercising the same rights as us customers have. IE honour the contract and give 30 days notice if either party want to terminate it as agreed.
Three are a business, and they are making a business decision to cancel old airtime plans, they are perfectly in their right to do so. IMO I think its a good thing, mobile companies should be providing MOBILE data, not a broadband service. The 2GB/4GB is sufficient for emergency/occasional tethering. And if this increases speeds for mobile users then bring it on!! |
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Maybe they should have kept unlimited tethering but with a harsh speed reduction once you've used 2 or 4GB. Virgin Mobile advertises "unlimited" data, with speeds reduced to only 384k if you use over 3.5GB in a month, not sure if that includes tethering.
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Good riddance to the small number of users that are taking the mick using stupid amounts of data. They should offer customers the ability to buy lots more tethering (at a price!) but Three can potentially free up a huge amount of their network to provide faster speeds to the majority. The excessive users have nowhere else to go anyway for the use they claim to need.
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Good riddance to the small number of users that are taking the mick using stupid amounts of data. They should offer customers the ability to buy lots more tethering (at a price!) but Three can potentially free up a huge amount of their network to provide faster speeds to the majority. The excessive users have nowhere else to go anyway for the use they claim to need.
This will lead to even better experience for the 90% remaining, and the 10% if they choose to stay but with the new limits and enjoy the better performance. A single 100GB a month user uses what 10 or 20 5 to 10GB users use (mobile with some hotspot use) meaning much better performance is on the way for the majority. As for the 300GB users, well that's 100 other Three customer's typical usage and was always unsustainable. I think this will turn out better for the bulk of the userbase, unlimited phone data and cut off the people using it for cheap home internet by using the phone tethered all the time. Nice work Three! in future I'll get unlimited phone data, 4GB of tethering and the option to buy a bit extra tethering via an add-on presumably if needed, which I might do occasionally. |
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4GB is not enough though and it is a shame the people who used 100GB a month and took the mick by making it their broadband replacement has caused this to happen
AYCE was never supposed to be used as a broadband replacement service, no mobile network is setup to cope with the use like BT or Virgin is |
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Good riddance to the small number of users that are taking the mick using stupid amounts of data. They should offer customers the ability to buy lots more tethering (at a price!) but Three can potentially free up a huge amount of their network to provide faster speeds to the majority. The excessive users have nowhere else to go anyway for the use they claim to need.
The problem is, Three have gone from offering customers the luxury of unlimited tethering to putting a ridiculous cap on of 4GB/month. If the aim is to stop stupid amounts of data being used then they should have put a reasonable cap of tethering in place such as 30GB/month. Then the heavy data users who want to use 150GB tethering for instance would have to look for landline broadband options. |
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At what point does someone's tethering use become a "stupid amount of data"?
The problem is, Three have gone from offering customers the luxury of unlimited tethering to putting a ridiculous cap on of 4GB/month. If the aim is to stop stupid amounts of data being used then they should have put a reasonable cap of tethering in place such as 30GB/month. Then the heavy data users who want to use 150GB tethering for instance would have to look for landline broadband options. They used 80GB, 100GB or 100's of GB in some cases as such an unsustainable rate that Three have now had to pull unlimited tethering for everyone. If you stay with Three you'll get unlimited phone data, 4GB of tethering and the ability to buy an add-on for more data or a separate mobile broadband plan for some £15 / £20 a month giving you the extra wifi hotspot data you need. |
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At what point does someone's tethering use become a "stupid amount of data"?
The problem is, Three have gone from offering customers the luxury of unlimited tethering to putting a ridiculous cap on of 4GB/month. If the aim is to stop stupid amounts of data being used then they should have put a reasonable cap of tethering in place such as 30GB/month. Then the heavy data users who want to use 150GB tethering for instance would have to look for landline broadband options. |
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They used 80GB, 100GB or 100's of GB in some cases as such an unsustainable rate that Three have now had to pull unlimited tethering for everyone.
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Thing is, there is a huge difference between someone using 10GB tethering and someone using 80GB tethering. I don't have a problem with a tethering limit specifically. My problem is how low that limit is (seriously, 4GB is nothing really) and the fact that they are also at the same time pushing people to higher priced tariffs (and people don't react well to getting less while paying more money).
Sadly (laughs) the 100GB a month users will have to pay the real cost if they want 100GB of tethering data now, and that'll be about £150 a month, or £2000 a year, which is what they should have been paying, and indeed would have been on any other UK network. |
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Whilst I'll also appreciate any improvements on Three for data and voice, it has to be said that Three offered this feature and some users were simply taking advantage of what their contract allowed them to do so it's not really fair to call those users freeloading or whatever.
Three were mad to ever allow unlimited data with tethering for £15 then £20 a month, maybe £50 or £70 a month perhaps would be viable and still a few users could have that option, but at those low prices it was utter madness that would obviously be abused, almost anyone can understand that so what idiot in Three allowed it ever to be offered?! If they'd have originally offered a tethering limit of say 5 or 10Gb a month on the one plan they'd probably still have got a large number of subscribers signing up to what would still be considered a reasonably decent tethering allowance and voice calls for a very fair price at that time. |
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They sold it as personal hotspot and not to have to worry about bill shock, I don't think they anticipated just how many people would abuse it for mobile broadband and tether all evening every evening, sometimes with multiple devices and users.
Giffgaff kicking people off has probably lead to loads of heavy GG users all piling onto Three and given it the kiss of death. Things change, it had a good run for a number of years, but now due to the huge gap between a typical user and the 10% who used 60% of network resources it has come to an end. Those users will now have to get home broadband or pay £2000 a year to Three for their usage, which is only fair using that much of the network resource. |
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I(m currently on the one plan £15 sim only deal, quite whats going to happen next i dont know my 12 month contract ends sometime soon as well.
Data wide im chugging along at 2-6gig a month and 1-6GB of tethering ( to another mobile device) Occasionally I will exceed this and use 50GB of tethering or more but this is only roughly once a year if that The one plan as it is, or was give/gave me the freedom to use a little bit more than the usual without worry or hassle, as it is this month my data use is low at only 3GB of data and 600mb of tethering. There does seem to be an issue with perceived greed for those that were using 100's of GBs worth of tethering a month, using it instead of a main fixed connection for netflix HD streaming and the like, while these people may have been/are heavy users arent they just using the service as sold - unlimited tethering? if anyone is to blame here then its the network for selling something it couldn't deliver. that could be summed up with this well known phrase: Piss poor planning = piss poor performance. As for Three in general, whilst tings have improved over the years in terms of signal, they are still seen as the network with a crappy signal and worse customer support. Many people are put off with offshore far away call centres "hello Welcome to Tree, my name is Bryan ( in a female voice) " and if three realy want to move away from the budget sector they need to really improve this aspect of their service significantly. Another thing is the signal - yes it has improved substantially since I have been with Three, however the 2100mhz only ( as far as i know ) signal is a severe disability to three, with its inability to penetrate well indoors especially older thick walled stone buildings ), between buildings, through forests into valleys and so on, a stronger signal and dare i say it a little more 2G fallback would be a positive move. Most places that I go have a decent Signal, however a couple that spring to mind are between Ashbourne and Buxton in the Derbyshire/Staffordshire Peak District in amongst the Dales and valleys, as well as a large chunk of Kent particularly inland of Folkestone, between Folkestone And Canterbury. All in all this looks like a bad decision by Three, they still have a lot of issues to sort out and they still have a piss poor image problem that no amount of glossy shops will overcome Three still need to be disruptive in the market. Instead of killing off the one plan they should have put a few sensible limits in such as off peak unlimited everything and peak time tethering limits slowing and throttling people as they approach these limits. Oh well, so much for traffic sense saving the day. |
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Those users will now have to get home broadband or pay £2000 a year to Three for their usage, which is only fair using that much of the network resource.
The middle ground where the One Plan sat between expensive packages like EE's £75 a month for 50GB and the low end, doesn't care about data 500MB-1GB is being lost. How can I trust Three to not drop AYCE after a year or two for more pushing people for more profit? I don't want to end up in a situation where people who use a modest amount of data have to make a choice of an expensive tariff with decreasing data allowances or downgrading to a package that barely allows you to check the odd email before you run out of your allowance. |
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I guess more people will be connecting their smartphone to their TV's now as unlimited data on a handset is still offered by Three. So unlimited iPlayer, Netflix, YouTube, etc.. on the glorious big screen is still possible.
Windows Phone even has an app which lets you project your phone to your PC. http://www.nokiapoweruser.com/2014/0...creen-on-a-pc/ |
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I tried to explain to some users that Trafficsense wasn't a magic wand. I had this debate in the last 2 weeks with 1 user.
It will impact me a bit too because I occasionally like to tether when I'm away from home and I too would like the freedom to occasionally use more, but not use huge amounts every month. If they are taking the One Plan from all users then it will impact us, we'll have to wait and see as I haven't had any text yet. If it's coming it'll happen over the next 3 to 4 weeks. You never know maybe moderate users will be excluded from the forced move, who knows... |
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Well that's now the worry with Three. All of their promotions are now only viewable as temporary. Like Home and AYCE will be heavily marketed by Three to draw everyone in, then as they've proved they'll move the goalposts.
Their actions are actually quite unscrupulous. People were only using the services offered to them by Three. |
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You need to be 'banned' for being rude! He has some great points and I had no problems reading it... grow up!
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Well that's now the worry with Three. All of their promotions are now only viewable as temporary. Like Home and AYCE will be heavily marketed by Three to draw everyone in, then as they've proved they'll move the goalposts.
Their actions are actually quite unscrupulous. People were only using the services offered to them by Three. Three aren't unique in stopping unlimited tethering and they are still keeping unlimited data on the phone. O2 stopped unlimited, Orange stopped unlimited, Three is in fact continuing it, just capping the tethering allowance. |
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Clearly you have had to put up with his antics for which he has been banned for quite a few times! But he's like the proverbial bad penny. He keeps coming back
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He hasn't been banned for a while though, there was a phase when there were several. None permanent though.
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They are a business, and just like as a consumer they can change things when the fixed term contract comes to an end. I think you'll find lots of companies decide to retire offers, especially when situations change as they have done in the last couple of years with Three's tethering being used more and more as cheap home broadband.
Three aren't unique in stopping unlimited tethering and they are still keeping unlimited data on the phone. O2 stopped unlimited, Orange stopped unlimited, Three is in fact continuing it, just capping the tethering allowance. If they didn't want people using it as cheap home broadband then they shouldn't have put it there as an option, simple as. |
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Three still is the network built for the Internet hence why it's all you can eat data on your mobile. They are not a landline broadband provider. For the vast majority of people 4gb tethering is plenty for the odd occasion where they want to use their iPad or laptop out and about. Nearly everywhere has wifi these days also, needing to teather shouldn't really be needed very often. three wouldn't have bothered capping it if it wasn't becoming a capacity problem.
if you want to download gigs and gigs of data get on some wifi and stop hogging the service
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It is ridiculous the tethering limit of 4GB. It's only suitable for people for very light use like occasionally reading an email or watching a short video.
Im not even interested in 4G as 3G is already easily fast enough. Bloody 4G. Its a sensible business move as the short term costs will mean a long term gain. I honestly think 4gb tethering is reasonble for such a plan, AYCE handset data remaining probably means this will affect a very small percentage. |
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