|
||||||||
Three phases out "The One Plan" and Unlimited tethering |
![]() |
| Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|
#1651 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 14,645
|
Quote:
Speaking of cityfibre..... Since they're laying all the cables down does anyone think there will be another broadband provider within the Kingston-Upon-Hull area?
They could use the cabling to dish out broadband for the area?... I believe a wireless provider has already got a deal with the cityfibre rollout actually. The local electricity company's fibre network is not far away from me, and some of their customers include Virgin Media. The only option for broadband is either 4G or something based on the Openreach network, unless you're a business in which case VM will be happy to sell you a connection over a nice leased line to the electricity company's point of presence and onto the Virgin network from there |
|
|
|
|
Please sign in or register to remove this advertisement.
|
|
|
#1652 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Yorkshire, United Kingdom
Posts: 561
|
Quote:
I don't really understand why hull has been allowed to fall into this mess, has it always been crap or is this a recent thing?
|
|
|
|
|
|
#1653 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 14,645
|
Quote:
It's because no-one cares about Hull it's now a run down place.... They used to be everything here... now there's absolutely nothing... It's been in other words.... Forgotten about.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#1654 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 14,577
|
Quote:
Like most parts of England except London, Manchester or Birmingham then. The only difference is that the rest of the country has BT
I was also perfectly happy with DC-HSPA as it does exactly the same things as 4G. I don't think I'd get anything more from living in one of those 3 cities except shorter life expectancy, more traffic pollution, noise and not being able to afford a property. |
|
|
|
|
|
#1655 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Central Belt
Posts: 12,290
|
Quote:
Like most parts of England except London, Manchester or Birmingham then. The only difference is that the rest of the country has BT
I don't see BT's 20GB mobile data for £20 per month lasting for very long after they've poached so many customers from other mobile operators that they've all crashed out of business leaving BT clear to drop their 20GB for £20 per month starter offer and then charge an extortionate amount such as £25 per month for a max of 3GB of data. |
|
|
|
|
|
#1656 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 14,645
|
Quote:
Most of the rest of the UK don't wish to rely on BT to supply all of their fixed line and mobile telecommunications services to them as well as their multichannel subscription TV service or even any one of their services at all to them.
Quote:
You speak for yourself! I have 120Mb/s broadband, 4G and live in a nice area. I think you're making a sweeping generalisation!
I was also perfectly happy with DC-HSPA as it does exactly the same things as 4G. I don't think I'd get anything more from living in one of those 3 cities except shorter life expectancy, more traffic pollution, noise and not being able to afford a property. I live in a "nice area" and can get some 4G too, but good luck getting a job here... |
|
|
|
|
|
#1657 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 363
|
Quote:
It's because no-one cares about Hull it's now a run down place.... They used to be everything here... now there's absolutely nothing... It's been in other words.... Forgotten about.
Hull is a city on the up - and in a few months time it'll have it's backhaul sorted. I visit the city regularly for work, it's a special place, with it's own little culture. It has a lot going for it, it's just not immediately obvious at first. Now, who said this thread was getting off topic
|
|
|
|
|
|
#1658 |
|
Inactive Member
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: London, United Kingdom
Posts: 19,783
|
Zzzzzzzzzz. I'll check back in to this thread when we get back to discussing Three.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#1659 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 2,887
|
What is it with this forum. It's like we have to have an argument at least once a month about something rather petty.
Can't we all just get a long?
|
|
|
|
|
|
#1660 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 363
|
Quote:
What is it with this forum. It's like we have to have an argument at least once a month about something rather petty.
Can't we all just get a long? ![]() Back on topic: I've finally ditched Three. Lots of promises about 4g coverage which never materialised. I was paying £12/pm for 4gb on three. Via a redemption deal I can get 5gb on we for £13.99/pm. Both sim only of course. A bit of faffing to be done with cashback vouchers, but it seems worth it for the vastly superior coverage |
|
|
|
|
|
#1661 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,643
|
I was just wondering how people are feeling about this since the One plan has been gone for a few months. Since February my old One plan was changed. I was paying £15/pm on it, and after a bit of negotiation they gave me unlimited everything with 4gb tethering, but at least they left me paying £15/pm instead of hiking it up to £25 - which was the worst thing about the new plan, imo.
![]() In the end, it's worked out not so bad anyway; i use a 5.5 inch phablet so streaming video is ok to watch, all my downloading is done my phone and yes it means that I might have to tranfser a file onto the pc afterwards, but that's no biggie. So all in all, yes I have had to change my habits slightly but to be honest this tethering cap hasnt turned out to be the massive inconvenience or increased cost that I thought it was going to be when i first heard the one plan was being scrapped. I also like the peace of mind of having unlimited minutes instead of just the 2000 I was getting on the old plan - and I still use around 20gb a month.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#1662 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: a land filled with trolls
Posts: 12,018
|
I'm still in the One Plan so wonder what deal I'll be offered? I too have got used to uploading and downloading files via my phone, so don't expect the loss of unlimited tethering to be much of a problem.
In fact, I haven't used tethering at all for about two months. |
|
|
|
|
#1663 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 1,415
|
I'm still on the one plan too. When it was first announced they would be moving people off I did try to preempt it by calling and trying to get a good deal on one of the new plans (I wasn't fussed about a 4GB tethering limit as I barely ever tether anyway), but was just told to wait for the letter, which I'm still waiting for. Since then the new plans have crept up in price, and from what I gather you can't get any deals on them either, even if you were previously getting a discount to get the one plan for £15/month, so not sure what I'll be offered or go for when I eventually do get the letter.
Most months I would probably get away with 1GB data, but when (for example) I decide to use spotify my usage tends to spike quite a bit. Minutes wise on average I use around 250 mins, which means I would need to go for one of the 600 minute plans since 50 mins outside the 200 allowances would cost a fortune. I would be tempted to go with 600/1Gb and just pay for an add on occasionally, but think 600/4GB might be better peace of mind. Just a bit crap that I would be paying more per month and losing (effectively) unlimited minutes and AYCE data when I would have been perfectly happy to carry on with the one plan even if tethering was restricted to 4GB on it. |
|
|
|
|
|
#1664 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 667
|
Quote:
I was just wondering how people are feeling about this since the One plan has been gone for a few months
I used around 0 texts and about 2 - 5 minutes of calls a month. We also have a "Seen using a mobile phone in working hours and you are sacked" policy at work, which negates having it switched on for 9 hours a day during the working week anyway. ![]() So for me, a Mobile Broadband Sim was the obvious choice when the One Plan ended, I'm currently with EE on their 15GB MBB Sim and on average use anywhere between 5GB and 12GB a month depending on how often i'm at home in the Evenings / Weekends as I don't have ADSL. For that reason I tend to use more Data in Winter than Summer. I'm considering moving to ID Mobile for their 20GB / £20 Data offering, which will give a bit more headroom should my upper usage increase above the 12GB where it sits currently, the ID mobile is the same price as the EE sim so its a no brainer for the extra 5GB However i'm waiting for feedback from others using the service first before making the move and ideally for '3' (who ID use) to bring 4G to the area, as that is also something which I get from EE currently. |
|
|
|
|
|
#1665 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,643
|
Quote:
Since then the new plans have crept up in price, and from what I gather you can't get any deals on them either, even if you were previously getting a discount to get the one plan for £15/month, so not sure what I'll be offered or go for when I eventually do get the letter.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#1666 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: a land filled with trolls
Posts: 12,018
|
Unlike Sky, it doesn't seem Three is that bothered about keeping people. It might depend on the person you're speaking to, or if you have other accounts, or have spent more than just £15 a month for a couple of years.
I suspect that my spend with Three doesn't make me a particularly valued customer, as my bill is pretty much £15 every month, with the odd £5 Internet pass when abroad (in a non Feel at Home country) and some 1p SMS delivery reports. |
|
|
|
|
#1667 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 14,577
|
I'm sure you're valued but if there's no margin in keeping you or discounting to keep you then they won't. In some cases people have been paying the same for years but average usage had gone up considerably. People seem to want to pay 2010 prices for some reason!(not suggesting you are personally, just speaking generally).
People are saying they will leave, but I don't think they'll be too fused about losing a small amount of low value customers especially if they are getting ready for the O2 takeover. |
|
|
|
|
|
#1668 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 1,325
|
I think one of the differences was that the other networks were open that they'd have to charge more for the large amounts of investment required, where as Three is trying to pass it off as free 4g. Either way the bill goes up so they'd have got more money if they had just introduced 4g tarrifs and invested more in building a better 4g network from the off.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#1669 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 14,577
|
Quote:
I think one of the differences was that the other networks were open that they'd have to charge more for the large amounts of investment required, where as Three is trying to pass it off as free 4g. Either way the bill goes up so they'd have got more money if they had just introduced 4g tarrifs and invested more in building a better 4g network from the off.
You keep looking at things from a daily 4G poster in a mobile forum point of view, rather than an average user. DC-HSPA with an overlay of 4G is suitable for most and gives access to any of today's data requirements for average users. People that want 120Mb/s mobile internet will pay through the nose for it on EE, but O2 and Thee will next year have a perfectly suitable data network and I'm sure a pretty happy customer base. People on the forum may be upset though when things change and they can't keep their 2010 pricing. |
|
|
|
|
|
#1670 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: a land filled with trolls
Posts: 12,018
|
Quote:
I'm sure you're valued but if there's no margin in keeping you or discounting to keep you then they won't. In some cases people have been paying the same for years but average usage had gone up considerably. People seem to want to pay 2010 prices for some reason!(not suggesting you are personally, just speaking generally).
People are saying they will leave, but I don't think they'll be too fused about losing a small amount of low value customers especially if they are getting ready for the O2 takeover. Still, it got me and my wife to sign up to new contracts. She doesn't need AYCE data or tethering so will probably have no issue finding a suitable alternative. For me, I do want AYCE data (and 4GB tethering should be fine) and accept paying more, even though I'm not particularly happy about it. Before I got a contract, I used PAYG with the £15 add ons (and added them periodically). If the £15 option goes (it's unclear if it has already or is just a website glitch) then Three has stopped that being a option and I might as well stay. |
|
|
|
|
#1671 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 14,577
|
Quote:
I've said Three was crazy to charge just £15 for the One Plan. When it was £25 it was a good deal, but Three obviously wanted to boost subscriber numbers with a £5 and then £10 discount. It was rather silly, but must have worked in the short term (before creating a huge drain on the network).
Still, it got me and my wife to sign up to new contracts. She doesn't need AYCE data or tethering so will probably have no issue finding a suitable alternative. For me, I do want AYCE data (and 4GB tethering should be fine) and accept paying more, even though I'm not particularly happy about it. Before I got a contract, I used PAYG with the £15 add ons (and added them periodically). If the £15 option goes (it's unclear if it has already or is just a website glitch) then Three has stopped that being a option and I might as well stay. No mistake about it, IF regulators block the takeover Hutchison will exit the UK, however I don't see that as likely and Hutchison as the largest operator will be able to invest what is needed and in sure they will run a really good operation as they have done in the past with Orange and to some extent (and against all the odds) Three. Remember in the 12 years they operated Three so much changed, if you had asked analysts for odds on them going 12 years strong from startup they would have laughed at you, especially in the very difficult early days. Old Wavejock used to say they were about to exit or fail every month of every year and now we see the parent acquiring O2 to form the largest UK network, which is going to be called Three. |
|
|
|
|
|
#1672 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 1,325
|
So the message to the competitions commission, the EU and Ofcom is that either way you're ending up with three networks in the UK, so decide how you want it. I wonder how it would work if Hutchinson were to just exit the market. Would they just not offer new contract sign ups/renewals and everyone would just have to find a new network on their own?
|
|
|
|
|
|
#1673 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 14,577
|
IMO they would sell and it would likely go to a big business like Dixons Carphone or go to whoever buys Tesco Mobile, or to a broadband operator or Sky or.... (insert many). However, unlikely to happen.
Tesco selling their half of Tesco Mobile is a blessing as it means Three can sell the other half that is owned by O2 as part of appeasing the competition people, they always like a lamb sacrifice. In Ireland the lamb was the creation on MVNO, in EE's case it was sale of spectrum, here it could well be sale of the O2 half of Tesco Mobile, easy as Tesco are desperate to let their half be sold as well. |
|
|
|
|
|
#1674 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 636
|
Quote:
I've said Three was crazy to charge just £15 for the One Plan. When it was £25 it was a good deal, but Three obviously wanted to boost subscriber numbers with a £5 and then £10 discount. It was rather silly, but must have worked in the short term (before creating a huge drain on the network).
Still, it got me and my wife to sign up to new contracts. She doesn't need AYCE data or tethering so will probably have no issue finding a suitable alternative. For me, I do want AYCE data (and 4GB tethering should be fine) and accept paying more, even though I'm not particularly happy about it. ... You can get AYCE data on Three SIM-only for £17 a month, if you're willing to commit to 12 months - £20 for a 30 day contract. I know the 30 day plan gives flexibility to move, but personally I'd not be willing to pay a 17% premium for that (others might well of course). You only get 200 minutes though - not a problem for some. I'm currently paying £12.90 for AYCE data and 600 minutes (a £9.90 plan plus £3 AYCE add-on) - when I get booted off I'll have to decide whether to go for the above AYCE data and 200 mins plan for £17 or - if I need more minutes - the 4GB of data and 600 minutes plan for £16. There is an AYCE data and 600 minute plan for £22 but that's a bit too much. I guess that last sentence makes a point though - I switched to Three after spending a few years paying a bit too much with another network, because I simply hadn't been following the market (though I've been SIM only for a long time now). Three's lower prices were a significant part of the attraction. I'd not be surprised the existing customer base of Three is rather more more price savvy / sensitive than that of other networks. Anyway I'm going to try and experiment more with WhatsApp calling, BT Smarttalk, Skype etc to see if they could make up the possible shortfall in talk time if I went for the AYCE and 200 mins plan. My experience thus far (using them on 3G/4G rather than wifi) is mixed, perhaps illustrated by the point that I regard trying to do so as a bit of a faff with uncertain results compared to just making a normal mobile call - and when you wanna just make a call, often you simply want to get on and do it rather than muck around then have the technology fail on you! |
|
|
|
|
|
#1675 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: East Midlands
Posts: 3,842
|
Quote:
You can get AYCE data on Three SIM-only for £17 a month, if you're willing to commit to 12 months - £20 for a 30 day contract. I know the 30 day plan gives flexibility to move, but personally I'd not be willing to pay a 17% premium for that (others might well of course).
That only gives you 200 minutes, if you go over that then it will cost £££'s more.Also those who have served their 12 month/contract minimums should be offered like for like. So if your on the one plan sim only £15 deal, once your term is served, you dont want a 12 month tie in - and your average usage is roughly 350 - 400 minutes, 12GB of data ( handset ) and 3GB tethered you are looking at £30 a month for AYCE data, 600 minutes, 1 month for £25 Which is an increase of 67% if you use more than 600 minutes the increase would be 100% |
|
|
|
![]() |
|
All times are GMT. The time now is 10:56.





