Three phases out "The One Plan" and Unlimited tethering

jabbamk1 · 14-07-2015, 12:26

If there is one thing i've noticed, price wars won't happen till the end of a generation. So I wouldn't expect any real competitive pricing / great deals as standard till after 2018 now.

Soundbox · 14-07-2015, 12:44

What plan do they offer after kicking you off the One plan? Is it something that is available to everybody or something a bit special?

jonmorris · 14-07-2015, 12:46

Nothing special at all it seems, and as prices keep going up then those kicked off earlier this year could be better off.

With the new SIM only 8GB plan coming in August, I have to assume the AYCE option will go up in price a bit more. It might just be a few quid, but still.

Chris1973 · 14-07-2015, 18:30

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I've got a couple of 100GB EE SIMs on the go, and a People's Operator 31GB SIM on test

You can tether from the People's Operator Sim??

In addition to data, how many minutes / texts do you need?

cooler · 16-07-2015, 14:12

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Originally Posted by Chris1973

You can tether from the People's Operator Sim??

In addition to data, how many minutes / texts do you need?

I asked them on live chat. I was told it doesn't include tethering, but they are looking to introduce it, but do not know when that will be.

jonmorris · 16-07-2015, 14:29

You're not allowed to tether and I wouldn't imagine they'll be rushing to change that (given - like BT - they probably hope that most people won't use all the data up, which is far easier to do with tethering). I hope introducing 4G access will be higher up the list of priorities.

But it works well and TPO is able to sell it as being '1GB per day' (more some months of course!) and there are also some pretty good offerings for less money too.

Perhaps ideal for handset users who stream a lot of video, or put in a tablet. The 30 day contract is also good.

Gigabit · 16-07-2015, 23:27

Am I right in saying that all customers will be off the One Plan by the end of the year?

WelshBluebird · 16-07-2015, 23:35

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Originally Posted by Gigabit

Am I right in saying that all customers will be off the One Plan by the end of the year?

I don't see how that would be possible. Three only started moving people off towards the last few months of last year. Meaning someone could have signed up to a 24 month contract just beforehand and so will have until towards the end of 2016 before having to move off. Or I suppose Three could try changing the terms of the existing contract and just say if you want to leave without penalty you can.

Gigabit · 16-07-2015, 23:36

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Originally Posted by WelshBluebird

I don't see how that would be possible. Three only started moving people off towards the last few months of last year. Meaning someone could have signed up to a 24 month contract just beforehand and so will have until towards the end of 2016 before having to move off. Or I suppose Three could try changing the terms of the existing contract and just say if you want to leave without penalty you can.

Sorry my mistake for not being clear!

Let me rephrase: does Three ideally want all out-of-contract customers off the One Plan by the end of the year?

d123 · 16-07-2015, 23:39

I would assume so, it seems to be picking up pace again with lots of people getting the letter.

jabbamk1 · 17-07-2015, 02:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gigabit

Sorry my mistake for not being clear!

Let me rephrase: does Three ideally want all out-of-contract customers off the One Plan by the end of the year?

By March 2016.

The One Plan was discontinued on 24 month contract in March 2014.

Aldridge Andy · 17-07-2015, 13:35

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Originally Posted by d123

I would assume so, it seems to be picking up pace again with lots of people getting the letter.

I'm getting home most nights expecting a letter from Three. Can't believe that I have had a reprieve for so long!

Kal El · 17-07-2015, 22:15

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Originally Posted by Aldridge Andy

I'm getting home most nights expecting a letter from Three. Can't believe that I have had a reprieve for so long!

Snap. Been out of contract on the £15 one plan since July 2014 so 12 months now.

sweetstyle · 18-07-2015, 06:15

if you have multi accounts, dont abuse the data & have a fair amount of call traffic 3 will probably leave you alone...

Gigabit · 18-07-2015, 09:26

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Originally Posted by sweetstyle

if you have multi accounts, dont abuse the data & have a fair amount of call traffic 3 will probably leave you alone...

But eventually they will upgrade you anyway.

As been said many times, Three don't want anyone on the One Plan anymore.

jonmorris · 18-07-2015, 10:14

I don't think cutting back on usage will save anyone.

corf · 20-07-2015, 09:20

Are people still receiving the text - or it is just a letter now?

Soundbox · 20-07-2015, 10:22

I called into the 3 shop yesterday to look at the new plans. The £17 12 month contract looks the closest, but only 4 Gb of tethering and none of the plans offer more. If you ignore the text or letter you will be put on the £30 per month rolling (ouch). The friendly assistant said that it was people abusing the tethering that caused the plan to be cancelled. Shame really as it was very good.

jabbamk1 · 20-07-2015, 11:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundbox

I called into the 3 shop yesterday to look at the new plans. The £17 12 month contract looks the closest, but only 4 Gb of tethering and none of the plans offer more. If you ignore the text or letter you will be put on the £30 per month rolling (ouch). The friendly assistant said that it was people abusing the tethering that caused the plan to be cancelled. Shame really as it was very good.

They're increasing tethering on SIM Only to 8GB in August.

Thine Wonk · 20-07-2015, 11:49

That's good, I'm 18 months out of contract on the One Plan. No notice so far, don't abuse it or use huge amounts of data, about 1-4GB a month handset data and tethering some months none, some months 10-15GB.

Faust · 20-07-2015, 15:22

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Originally Posted by Soundbox

The friendly assistant said that it was people abusing the tethering that caused the plan to be cancelled. Shame really as it was very good.

Same as it ever was - a few spoil it for the rest and then it's the usual case of using a hammer to crack a nut.

jonmorris · 20-07-2015, 18:09

The fault was Three allowing totally unlimited tethering, followed by suggesting usage up to 1000GB was okay, and then - shock horror - discovering people started to use it.

I don't believe anyone can be considered to have abused something that Three actively used and promoted to acquire customers.

The question has to be; WHY did Three ever allow totally unlimited tethering, and then have to start introducing TrafficSense and eventually hard limits of 2, 4 and now 8GB?

Daveoc64 · 20-07-2015, 20:22

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Originally Posted by jonmorris

I don't believe anyone can be considered to have abused something that Three actively used and promoted to acquire customers.

I disagree completely.

Using it as a replacement for a home broadband connection was not the intention and it was never promoted that way.

The whole point of the One Plan was to offer a plan where you could use your phone as much as you wanted to, without having to worry about allowances.

The average user would have used Tethering with their tablet or laptop when they were out of the home, not to connect several devices 24/7. For these purposes, an allowance of 2GB-8GB is going to be adequate.

Tethering has not generally been promoted by any network. They much prefer to sell mobile broadband deals.

Orbitalzone · 20-07-2015, 21:34

But Three actively promoted the One plan as unlimited, allowing tethering, no restrictions other than the 1000GB usage figures being touted. They also heavily promoted themselves as the network built for the internet.

While it was most likely a small percentage that 'abused' the data allowances, they were only doing what Three said was acceptable.

MTUK1 · 20-07-2015, 21:49

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Originally Posted by Orbitalzone

But Three actively promoted the One plan as unlimited, allowing tethering, no restrictions other than the 1000GB usage figures being touted. They also heavily promoted themselves as the network built for the internet.

While it was most likely a small percentage that 'abused' the data allowances, they were only doing what Three said was acceptable.

Three never actively promoted tethering and the 1000GB limit.

14-07-2015, 12:26	#1726
jabbamk1 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, UK Posts: 8,759	If there is one thing i've noticed, price wars won't happen till the end of a generation. So I wouldn't expect any real competitive pricing / great deals as standard till after 2018 now.

14-07-2015, 12:44	#1727
Soundbox Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The garden of earthly delights Posts: 4,509	What plan do they offer after kicking you off the One plan? Is it something that is available to everybody or something a bit special?

14-07-2015, 12:46	#1728
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,014	Nothing special at all it seems, and as prices keep going up then those kicked off earlier this year could be better off. With the new SIM only 8GB plan coming in August, I have to assume the AYCE option will go up in price a bit more. It might just be a few quid, but still.

14-07-2015, 18:30	#1729
Chris1973 Forum Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 667	Quote: I've got a couple of 100GB EE SIMs on the go, and a People's Operator 31GB SIM on test You can tether from the People's Operator Sim?? In addition to data, how many minutes / texts do you need?

16-07-2015, 14:12	#1730
cooler Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 11,176	Quote: Originally Posted by Chris1973 You can tether from the People's Operator Sim?? In addition to data, how many minutes / texts do you need? I asked them on live chat. I was told it doesn't include tethering, but they are looking to introduce it, but do not know when that will be.

16-07-2015, 14:29	#1731
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,014	You're not allowed to tether and I wouldn't imagine they'll be rushing to change that (given - like BT - they probably hope that most people won't use all the data up, which is far easier to do with tethering). I hope introducing 4G access will be higher up the list of priorities. But it works well and TPO is able to sell it as being '1GB per day' (more some months of course!) and there are also some pretty good offerings for less money too. Perhaps ideal for handset users who stream a lot of video, or put in a tablet. The 30 day contract is also good.

16-07-2015, 23:27	#1732
Gigabit Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,876	Am I right in saying that all customers will be off the One Plan by the end of the year?

16-07-2015, 23:35	#1733
WelshBluebird Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 720	Quote: Originally Posted by Gigabit Am I right in saying that all customers will be off the One Plan by the end of the year? I don't see how that would be possible. Three only started moving people off towards the last few months of last year. Meaning someone could have signed up to a 24 month contract just beforehand and so will have until towards the end of 2016 before having to move off. Or I suppose Three could try changing the terms of the existing contract and just say if you want to leave without penalty you can.

16-07-2015, 23:36	#1734
Gigabit Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,876	Quote: Originally Posted by WelshBluebird I don't see how that would be possible. Three only started moving people off towards the last few months of last year. Meaning someone could have signed up to a 24 month contract just beforehand and so will have until towards the end of 2016 before having to move off. Or I suppose Three could try changing the terms of the existing contract and just say if you want to leave without penalty you can. Sorry my mistake for not being clear! Let me rephrase: does Three ideally want all out-of-contract customers off the One Plan by the end of the year?

16-07-2015, 23:39	#1735
d123 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,987	I would assume so, it seems to be picking up pace again with lots of people getting the letter.

17-07-2015, 02:27	#1736
jabbamk1 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, UK Posts: 8,759	Quote: Originally Posted by Gigabit Sorry my mistake for not being clear! Let me rephrase: does Three ideally want all out-of-contract customers off the One Plan by the end of the year? By March 2016. The One Plan was discontinued on 24 month contract in March 2014.

17-07-2015, 13:35	#1737
Aldridge Andy Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aldridge, West Midlands. Posts: 335	Quote: Originally Posted by d123 I would assume so, it seems to be picking up pace again with lots of people getting the letter. I'm getting home most nights expecting a letter from Three. Can't believe that I have had a reprieve for so long!

17-07-2015, 22:15	#1738
Kal El Forum Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Sunderland Posts: 102	Quote: Originally Posted by Aldridge Andy I'm getting home most nights expecting a letter from Three. Can't believe that I have had a reprieve for so long! Snap. Been out of contract on the £15 one plan since July 2014 so 12 months now.

18-07-2015, 06:15	#1739
sweetstyle Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Stamford Posts: 72	if you have multi accounts, dont abuse the data & have a fair amount of call traffic 3 will probably leave you alone...

18-07-2015, 09:26	#1740
Gigabit Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,876	Quote: Originally Posted by sweetstyle if you have multi accounts, dont abuse the data & have a fair amount of call traffic 3 will probably leave you alone... But eventually they will upgrade you anyway. As been said many times, Three don't want anyone on the One Plan anymore.

18-07-2015, 10:14	#1741
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,014	I don't think cutting back on usage will save anyone.

20-07-2015, 09:20	#1742
corf Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,458	Are people still receiving the text - or it is just a letter now?

20-07-2015, 10:22	#1743
Soundbox Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The garden of earthly delights Posts: 4,509	I called into the 3 shop yesterday to look at the new plans. The £17 12 month contract looks the closest, but only 4 Gb of tethering and none of the plans offer more. If you ignore the text or letter you will be put on the £30 per month rolling (ouch). The friendly assistant said that it was people abusing the tethering that caused the plan to be cancelled. Shame really as it was very good.

20-07-2015, 11:36	#1744
jabbamk1 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, UK Posts: 8,759	Quote: Originally Posted by Soundbox I called into the 3 shop yesterday to look at the new plans. The £17 12 month contract looks the closest, but only 4 Gb of tethering and none of the plans offer more. If you ignore the text or letter you will be put on the £30 per month rolling (ouch). The friendly assistant said that it was people abusing the tethering that caused the plan to be cancelled. Shame really as it was very good. They're increasing tethering on SIM Only to 8GB in August.

20-07-2015, 11:49	#1745
Thine Wonk Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 14,547	That's good, I'm 18 months out of contract on the One Plan. No notice so far, don't abuse it or use huge amounts of data, about 1-4GB a month handset data and tethering some months none, some months 10-15GB.

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Three phases out "The One Plan" and Unlimited tethering

20-07-2015, 15:22	#1746
Faust Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: UK Posts: 8,100	Quote: Originally Posted by Soundbox The friendly assistant said that it was people abusing the tethering that caused the plan to be cancelled. Shame really as it was very good. Same as it ever was - a few spoil it for the rest and then it's the usual case of using a hammer to crack a nut.

20-07-2015, 18:09	#1747
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,014	The fault was Three allowing totally unlimited tethering, followed by suggesting usage up to 1000GB was okay, and then - shock horror - discovering people started to use it. I don't believe anyone can be considered to have abused something that Three actively used and promoted to acquire customers. The question has to be; WHY did Three ever allow totally unlimited tethering, and then have to start introducing TrafficSense and eventually hard limits of 2, 4 and now 8GB?

20-07-2015, 20:22	#1748
Daveoc64 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bristol (BBC1 West) Posts: 15,143	Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris I don't believe anyone can be considered to have abused something that Three actively used and promoted to acquire customers. I disagree completely. Using it as a replacement for a home broadband connection was not the intention and it was never promoted that way. The whole point of the One Plan was to offer a plan where you could use your phone as much as you wanted to, without having to worry about allowances. The average user would have used Tethering with their tablet or laptop when they were out of the home, not to connect several devices 24/7. For these purposes, an allowance of 2GB-8GB is going to be adequate. Tethering has not generally been promoted by any network. They much prefer to sell mobile broadband deals.

20-07-2015, 21:34	#1749
Orbitalzone Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Sussex Posts: 12,173	But Three actively promoted the One plan as unlimited, allowing tethering, no restrictions other than the 1000GB usage figures being touted. They also heavily promoted themselves as the network built for the internet. While it was most likely a small percentage that 'abused' the data allowances, they were only doing what Three said was acceptable.

20-07-2015, 21:49	#1750
MTUK1 Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: London, United Kingdom Posts: 19,783	Quote: Originally Posted by Orbitalzone But Three actively promoted the One plan as unlimited, allowing tethering, no restrictions other than the 1000GB usage figures being touted. They also heavily promoted themselves as the network built for the internet. While it was most likely a small percentage that 'abused' the data allowances, they were only doing what Three said was acceptable. Three never actively promoted tethering and the 1000GB limit.