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Old 06-02-2016, 09:08
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They look good plans for a lot of people although prefer the comfort of the unlimited data myself as I usually use 10gb/month, but sometimes may use up to 20gb (if we are away camping and streaming TV/films.

Have forwarded it onto my friend who has the letter from Three as another option.

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Old 06-02-2016, 09:19
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£17.50 for 16GB (if I'm reading it right?)

That is very tempting for when 3 kick me off the one plan. I'd have to make sure that EE's unannounced policy of "anyone can have a signal box" is still in effect though.

It'll be a novelty to see the 4G indicator on my phone more than about 5% of the time
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Old 06-02-2016, 09:25
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Crucially do the EE SIM-only plans include tethering?
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Old 06-02-2016, 09:29
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Crucially do the EE SIM-only plans include tethering?
Yes.

Oh well, embargo broken I may as well post it too. Same details obviously, but with my notes.

http://jmcomms.com/2016/02/06/revamped-ee-sim-only-plans-brings-eu-roaming-and-top-16gb-plan/
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Old 06-02-2016, 10:02
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£17.50 for 16GB (if I'm reading it right?)

That is very tempting for when 3 kick me off the one plan. I'd have to make sure that EE's unannounced policy of "anyone can have a signal box" is still in effect though.

It'll be a novelty to see the 4G indicator on my phone more than about 5% of the time
Half price (17.50 quid) for a time i.e. 6 months, and full price (34.99 quid) for the rest of the contract.

Or it could be 17.50 for the full term of the contract if you agree to a contract in the meantime before they increase their price to the full 34.99.
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Old 06-02-2016, 10:09
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A bit of a disappointment really for Sim Only.... was hoping for something like;

20gb-£25 P/Month
30gb-£30 P/Month

I know they have 4G in much more places than Three and much more spectrum but being on Three PAYG unlimited handset data for £20 with my own Iphone bought from Apple- I think it makes sense to stay on Three for the time being.

Personally I have been happy with Three, had coverage almost everywhere I go and AYCE/Bill shock does help...

As I say, when EE offers the prices above for SO, Wifi-calling, VoLTE, 800Mhz roll out and 1800Mhz power 'boost' plus nationwide 4g+- I may consider it

Until then... 3!
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Old 06-02-2016, 10:16
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Yes.

Oh well, embargo broken I may as well post it too. Same details obviously, but with my notes.

http://jmcomms.com/2016/02/06/revamp...top-16gb-plan/
The place I'd most want to use data is when travelling in Europe for maps, looking up places and because you're going to be in an unfamiliar place and want to look things up. I wouldn't be as fussed by calls and texts when abroad.

The plans are ok, but not that game changing. I'm never interested in short term 90 day discounts as they are just a way to hook you and then you end up paying a lot more after your short honeymoon period.
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Old 06-02-2016, 10:24
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A bit of a disappointment really for Sim Only.... was hoping for something like;

20gb-£25 P/Month
30gb-£30 P/Month

I know they have 4G in much more places than Three and much more spectrum but being on Three PAYG unlimited handset data for £20 with my own Iphone bought from Apple- I think it makes sense to stay on Three for the time being.

Personally I have been happy with Three, had coverage almost everywhere I go and AYCE/Bill shock does help...

As I say, when EE offers the prices above for SO, Wifi-calling, VoLTE, 800Mhz roll out and 1800Mhz power 'boost' plus nationwide 4g+- I may consider it

Until then... 3!
They don’t look like permanent prices looking at the shop terminal photo.

They look like they are only offering such deals specially for three contract customers while they are beyond their minimum term with three increased their contract prices for new contracts they will have to agree to or leave thre.
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Old 06-02-2016, 10:30
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Half price (17.50 quid) for a time i.e. 6 months, and full price (34.99 quid) for the rest of the contract.

Or it could be 17.50 for the full term of the contract if you agree to a contract in the meantime before they increase their price to the full 34.99.
According to Mr Morris the promotion is three months at half price.
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Old 06-02-2016, 11:13
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Maybe I didn't word it well, but it's the first three months of the contract discounted, not half price for the duration if you sign in the next three months.

But, that said, they did do promotions on SIM only before and likely will again. Probably why they set high rates to begin with.
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Old 06-02-2016, 11:23
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Maybe I didn't word it well, but it's the first three months of the contract discounted, not half price for the duration if you sign in the next three months.
How very BT!
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Old 06-02-2016, 12:04
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Original post Deleted - not so good a deal if the discount only lasts for 3 months.

The search continues.....
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Old 06-02-2016, 12:34
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I'm sure they'll do deals from time to time. The question is whether 16GB is enough. It's an improvement, but still seems quite tight and for no good reason.
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Old 06-02-2016, 12:45
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I'm sure they'll do deals from time to time. The question is whether 16GB is enough. It's an improvement, but still seems quite tight and for no good reason.
I think they want to prioritise speeds, that's all I can think. If people can't use as much data, the sites are a lot less busy = faster speeds.
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Old 06-02-2016, 12:52
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Original post Deleted - not so good a deal if the discount only lasts for 3 months.

The search continues.....
EE obviously read various forums and the recent newspaper reports how angry many three contract customers are at being kicked off the one plan and suddenly would have to pay a much higher price than they have with three for a new contract if they decide to stay with them.

It’s important that the anger doesn’t spill over and lead to these customers to making a rush rash decision in agreeing to one of these half price EE deals that are only half price for only 3 months and not realise that it will actually still cost them more overall than they would if they stay with three, even accounting for three’s new range of contracts being twice the price than they were before. And it’s still AYCE data with 12GB of tethering at three if you still require it. EE don’t offer AYCE data.

If you don’t necessarily still require AYCE data, even vodafone offer more data for less money than EE on a contract overall even accounting for the first 3 months of a contract being half price. But is vodafone’s mobile data service any good, and we all know about their shockingly poor customer services.
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Old 06-02-2016, 13:13
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Oh, thanks, so the new price plans are available from the 10 Feb?

That screen grab looks like a half price offer for the big allowance plans as well.
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Old 06-02-2016, 13:17
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If you don’t necessarily still require AYCE data
AYCE data is immaterial if the Three network isn't capable of delivering it. Three had a local mast down for 6 months last year, coincidentally the only one in the area which was DC-HSDPA enabled and gave usable 3g speeds. In parts of Cheshire, we are still waiting DC-HSDPA roll out from Three, and 4G isn't happening either. 0.2mbps is the average 3G speed, 0.5mbps on a good day or in the middle of the night, and people at '3' or in the know here seem to clam up when you give the postcode and ask if they can see why its so crap, so I guess the reply isn't good news or they at least get confirmation of just how bad it is.

So, Three could give me 1TB of tethering, and it would be of no use whatsoever, their network is completely useless in the places I need it, in Two different Counties!.

EE isn't much better but at home I can get 1 - 2 bars of 4G from Stoke, from a creatively placed phone, in comparison I could probably plug into Jodrell Bank and still not see 4G from Three . Its the Giff Gaff of the networks around here. Seriously, take a look at 3's 4G coverage checker for Cheshire and Shropshire - its Dire.

02 have, surprisingly, got excellent 4G coverage in the area, far superior to Three and almost as good a 4G Town coverage as EE, the problem is that when you get into rural areas, 02 vanishes. So if you live in a Rural area and work in a Town, and need data in both, then you need two sims on two different networks!. A decent EE Tariff would solve the problem, but i'm not paying £34.99 a month for 16GB of Data, when i'm already paying just £17.99 / month for 15GB on a MBB Sim. I make around 2 - 3 minutes of calls a month, and paying nearly double the price to make them, isn't worth it.

So for me its either EE or O2, and at the moment i'm using an EE MBB Sim for Data and a Giff Gaff Sim for phone use.

I still don't understand why the SIMO deals from EE are so expensive. I got the 15GB MBB Sim from EE for £17.99 / month on EE (retention deal, normally £20 / month) Yet to get 1GB more and Calls and Texts (which I will never use) on SIMO its £34.99 / month after the discount ends. That.s a lot extra to pay for 1GB extra and an occasional call.
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Old 06-02-2016, 14:17
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AYCE data is immaterial if the Three network isn't capable of delivering it. Three had a local mast down for 6 months last year, coincidentally the only one in the area which was DC-HSDPA enabled and gave usable 3g speeds. In parts of Cheshire, we are still waiting DC-HSDPA roll out from Three, and 4G isn't happening either. 0.2mbps is the average 3G speed, 0.5mbps on a good day or in the middle of the night, and people at '3' or in the know here seem to clam up when you give the postcode and ask if they can see why its so crap, so I guess the reply isn't good news or they at least get confirmation of just how bad it is.

So, Three could give me 1TB of tethering, and it would be of no use whatsoever, their network is completely useless in the places I need it, in Two different Counties!.

EE isn't much better but at home I can get 1 - 2 bars of 4G from Stoke, from a creatively placed phone, in comparison I could probably plug into Jodrell Bank and still not see 4G from Three . Its the Giff Gaff of the networks around here. Seriously, take a look at 3's 4G coverage checker for Cheshire and Shropshire - its Dire.

02 have, surprisingly, got excellent 4G coverage in the area, far superior to Three and almost as good a 4G Town coverage as EE, the problem is that when you get into rural areas, 02 vanishes. So if you live in a Rural area and work in a Town, and need data in both, then you need two sims on two different networks!. A decent EE Tariff would solve the problem, but i'm not paying £34.99 a month for 16GB of Data, when i'm already paying just £17.99 / month for 15GB on a MBB Sim. I make around 2 - 3 minutes of calls a month, and paying nearly double the price to make them, isn't worth it.

So for me its either EE or O2, and at the moment i'm using an EE MBB Sim for Data and a Giff Gaff Sim for phone use.

I still don't understand why the SIMO deals from EE are so expensive. I got the 15GB MBB Sim from EE for £17.99 / month on EE (retention deal, normally £20 / month) Yet to get 1GB more and Calls and Texts (which I will never use) on SIMO its £34.99 / month after the discount ends. That.s a lot extra to pay for 1GB extra and an occasional call.
Believe it or not I have used EE PAYG since December i.e. the 2 months × 100GB of data, and have not used Three PAYG data or texts since early January and saved a bit of money in the process.

Paid 10 quid for data to EE plus a few pence for a 2 or 3 calls at 3p per minute to three for 2 months versus 40 quid for AYCE data, 300 minutes and 3000 texts (most I don’t use) to three for the same time period that I would normally have paid.

And soon I will be using an EE PAYG MBB sim in my phones costing me 14.99 for 6GB of data. The few calls I make and the few texts I send using my three PAYG sim will not exceed 1 quid.

If you want to use the O2 network instead of three, Tesco Mobile for is very good as I have used them on PAYG before, and will probably use them again in future.

Ps:- When I insert my tesco PAYG sim in my samsung galaxy s3 mini phone then switch it on it flashes up O2 UK at the bottom of the screen and then it changes to Tesco, then gives you an option of which network you want to use i.e. O2 UK, Tesco and Giff Gaff. So I assume you can top up and use the same sim for all 3. You may be able to take advantage of 02 rewards if you use Tesco Mobile or Giff Gaff as they both use the O2 network.
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Old 06-02-2016, 15:26
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Ps:- When I insert my tesco PAYG sim in my samsung galaxy s3 mini phone then switch it on it flashes up O2 UK at the bottom of the screen and then it changes to Tesco, then gives you an option of which network you want to use i.e. O2 UK, Tesco and Giff Gaff. So I assume you can top up and use the same sim for all 3. You may be able to take advantage of 02 rewards if you use Tesco Mobile or Giff Gaff as they both use the O2 network.
nah, it's only flashing up to show you the choices of which APN to use, o2 is the actual network that's why it shows before it changes to Tesco.

O2 rewards only work with a direct from o2 SIM card. You can't get Giffgaff or Tesco with an o2 simcard, you need to have the actual simcard for the company you want.
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Old 06-02-2016, 17:14
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AYCE data is immaterial if the Three network isn't capable of delivering it. Three had a local mast down for 6 months last year, coincidentally the only one in the area which was DC-HSDPA enabled and gave usable 3g speeds. In parts of Cheshire, we are still waiting DC-HSDPA roll out from Three, and 4G isn't happening either. 0.2mbps is the average 3G speed, 0.5mbps on a good day or in the middle of the night, and people at '3' or in the know here seem to clam up when you give the postcode and ask if they can see why its so crap, so I guess the reply isn't good news or they at least get confirmation of just how bad it is.

So, Three could give me 1TB of tethering, and it would be of no use whatsoever, their network is completely useless in the places I need it, in Two different Counties!.

EE isn't much better but at home I can get 1 - 2 bars of 4G from Stoke, from a creatively placed phone, in comparison I could probably plug into Jodrell Bank and still not see 4G from Three . Its the Giff Gaff of the networks around here. Seriously, take a look at 3's 4G coverage checker for Cheshire and Shropshire - its Dire.

02 have, surprisingly, got excellent 4G coverage in the area, far superior to Three and almost as good a 4G Town coverage as EE, the problem is that when you get into rural areas, 02 vanishes. So if you live in a Rural area and work in a Town, and need data in both, then you need two sims on two different networks!. A decent EE Tariff would solve the problem, but i'm not paying £34.99 a month for 16GB of Data, when i'm already paying just £17.99 / month for 15GB on a MBB Sim. I make around 2 - 3 minutes of calls a month, and paying nearly double the price to make them, isn't worth it.

So for me its either EE or O2, and at the moment i'm using an EE MBB Sim for Data and a Giff Gaff Sim for phone use.

I still don't understand why the SIMO deals from EE are so expensive. I got the 15GB MBB Sim from EE for £17.99 / month on EE (retention deal, normally £20 / month) Yet to get 1GB more and Calls and Texts (which I will never use) on SIMO its £34.99 / month after the discount ends. That.s a lot extra to pay for 1GB extra and an occasional call.
You could go with BT if you don't mind losing tethering and "double speed" 4G, for £21/month for 20GB of data or £16/month if you've got BT Broadband. http://www.productsandservices.bt.co...im-only-plans/

If 10GB is enough you could get this http://www.moneysupermarket.com/mobi...d=117189657989

You could get this from Vodafone http://www.moneysupermarket.com/mobi...d=130539985673 however idk what Vodafone is like in your area and you have to claim for cashback in installments which is annoying and it's also only 10GB.

Maybe you could get a new phone and look at one of EE's phone contracts? They're probably better value than their sim only ones when you take into account the cost of the phone, and how overpriced EE's sim only contracts are. I found these:
http://www.moneysupermarket.com/mobi...d=108438582642
http://www.moneysupermarket.com/mobi...d=105804567736

I found all these at http://www.moneysupermarket.com/mobile-phones/ so you can use that if you want to look yourself or look at other phones.

Hope this helps!
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Old 06-02-2016, 17:41
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You could go with BT if you don't mind losing tethering
Thanks for the advice, but Tethering represents about 95% of my monthly data use, so yes its a quite important part of my decision in choosing a network.

In fact I wouldn't even bother owning a phone at all, if it wasn't for living in the middle of nowhere, where a vehicle breakdown or sudden fall of snow could leave you stranded.

Vodafone is extremely weak where I live and work, as is '3'. O2 has 4G in several local Towns, more 4G coverage than '3' in fact, however like Vodafone, its 3G is virtually non existent outside of Towns, fine on 2G for emergency use, but no good to use 10GB+ of data through.

I use around 10GB - 12GB of Data a month, well under 1GB of that is handset use. Currently i'm using an EE MBB sim for my Data use and PAYG Giff Gaff sim for Handset in case of emergencies and occasional use at lunchtimes to read the online papers, check hotmail etc.

It would be simpler to just have one sim in the phone to provide emergency phone use and tethering - it would also save me having to carry around the Mifi everywhere too, but sadly anything approaching 12GB of Data to use via tethering requires a major network and in the case of EE is seriously overpriced on SIMO when you compare what i'm paying for 15GB of Mifi data.

A EE SIMO Tariff with 15GB - 20GB of tetherable data, 10 mins of calls and 0 texts would suit me down to the Ground. Sadly, even with these new plans its still not catered for, at least not cheaply, and generally comes complete with hours of bundled free calls and thousands of texts, which I don't need and are a waste of money, i'd rather swap minutes and texts for Data, or a lower price.

The nearest I found, which was exactly what I needed was a MBB sim from ID Mobile, to this data sim, you can add minutes and texts on a tiered charge basis 100mins, 250mins etc a month as a bolt on. A great idea, but sadly Three doesn't work properly around here, even on 3G.
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Old 08-02-2016, 14:23
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Has anyone managed to get the unlimited everything for £20 on the one month rolling?

I was offered one of only two special offers - the 4GB for £9 and 8GB for £13. I mentioned to her that I know people who have received an offered of unlimited everything for £20. Her response was 'oh yes, I was going to mention that one, but you don't use enough data for that to be worth it'. I partly agree with her, she averaged up my years usage and said it comes to 4GB but she'd recommend the 8GB deal just in case. Part of me wants to take this as it comes in under what I currently pay, but another part of me wants to keep my unlimited data / 12gb tethering 'just in case'. The only time I've really used lots of data was when tethering to my tablet to watch a tonne of Netflix programmes whilst waiting for a family member to have a day op at the hospital!

Also she said the £20 option would be a 12 month contract but the others were one month. I couldn't remember if that was true or not (people here have mentioned £20 12 month but I'm sure other forums have said one month), I panicked and said I'd think about it and call back. Decision time! What would you guys do?
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Old 08-02-2016, 14:40
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I use around 10GB - 12GB of Data a month, well under 1GB of that is handset use. Currently i'm using an EE MBB sim for my Data use and PAYG Giff Gaff sim for Handset in case of emergencies and occasional use at lunchtimes to read the online papers, check hotmail etc.

It would be simpler to just have one sim in the phone to provide emergency phone use and tethering - it would also save me having to carry around the Mifi everywhere too, but sadly anything approaching 12GB of Data to use via tethering requires a major network and in the case of EE is seriously overpriced on SIMO when you compare what i'm paying for 15GB of Mifi data.
Couldn't you use a dual SIM phone then put the EE MBB sim in for data and the GiffGaff sim for calls.
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Old 08-02-2016, 15:28
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Couldn't you use a dual SIM phone then put the EE MBB sim in for data and the GiffGaff sim for calls.
No i'd need to constantly change them around for Data use, based on where I was.

EE / 3 is crap at work for Data, whilst O2 (Giff Gaff) has 4G and very usable 3G

EE / 3 is fine at home and I can even get 1 bar of 4G on EE, but O2 only has 2G

So GIff Gaff Data needed when at work, EE Data needed when Home. Currently neither network will give usable data in both in both locations. Even more surprising, is that my current 'dual network' combination, despite being a pain still works out cheaper than the £34.99 16gb deal from EE, which if I paid it, wouldn't work for Data 5 days per week.

The simplest solution would be for EE / 3 / MBNL to get its infrastructure sorted out and get the mast in Congleton on DC-HSDPA or 4G, but that seems a bit out of reach at the moment, and its been like this since 2011 / 2 so my hopes aren't high for it improving in 2016 either .
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Old 08-02-2016, 15:29
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Just phoned Three and selected the option of wanting to leave. Got put through to the Indian call center and told him I wanted my PAC code so I could go to BT as it was cheaper and I wanted to jump ship due to the negative press in the papers and that I didn't want to pay a higher price. He asked if he could do anything and I told him I wanted AYCE minutes,texts,data plus 12GB of tethering for £20 as other people were getting this deal. I got this deal no problem but on a 12 month contract.
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