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SMART televisions spying on you
Last year it was LG televisions monitoring activity:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25018225 Now Samsung what to watch and listen to you too :http://www.brennancenter.org/analysi...red-turn-thing |
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http://www.networkworld.com/article/...of-things.html
"He did not name the brand, but both LG and Samsung are known for this kind of intrusiveness". I smell more US protectionist stuff there. Siri always sends your voice back to Apple, so do we also ban smartphones? Microsoft and their privacy lobbying also makes the whole subject blurry. |
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What government is doing is allowing private firms to collect data about people and save it, safe in the knowledge that no court order will be needed if the local security forces will wish to take a look.
Government in this country and around the world. The threat to people is significant of course. As we have seen, government is increasingly "bought" by private interests who get the laws they wish and the policy they wish. The Conservatives right now, and who knows who Labour will sell out to in the future? Scary scary times we live in, it's like science fiction come to life. |
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The largest Dutch consumer organisation has started a campaign to end the spying by the manufacturers. According to their research the following brands are the main culprits: Samsung, Philips, Sony, LG and Panasonic.
Samsung has an opt-out for recommendations so it won't keep track of your viewing habits, but it's buried in the menu's. Disabling it won't affect other smart functionality on the TV. I've disabled the WIFI connection on my Samsung. I don't use any of the "smart" functionality. |
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As far as smart TVs go, if you don't connect them to the Internet and only use broadcast tv such as freeview, satellite, then there's no "return path" for such data to back along. Obviously you won't be able to make use the smart features.....but at least u have a choice.
On a smart phone, there's nothing u can really do about it apart from switch the phone off. |
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Scary scary times we live in, it's like science fiction come to life. And the costly privatisation of services via the use of people ATOS and MAXIMUS could also create Stasi like agencies, operating better through their very own 'establishment' controlled privacy. BTW I suspect that the vast majority of hacker recording are made through the mics and cameras on peoples laptops and PCs. US companies(Dell/HP/Intel etc) help make lots and lots of those so make of that what you will. |
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Here are some interesting reads: http://www.scmagazineuk.com/alarm-be...rticle/354900/
http://money.cnn.com/2013/08/01/tech...urity/tv-hack/ http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/...n-experts.html And there's loads more of hacking stories. The Dutch government's reaction to all this: It's the responsibility of the the user to be aware of the dangers and take appropriate measures to defend themselves... ![]() ![]()
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The largest Dutch consumer organisation has started a campaign to end the spying by the manufacturers. According to their research the following brands are the main culprits: Samsung, Philips, Sony, LG and Panasonic.
So (at least on Sony) you can't accidentally give permission for seeing your viewing habits. |
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..Samsung has an opt-out for recommendations...
Strangely, of the big players it seems only Google voice can work without using the cloud. |
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I can't comment on the other brands, but Sony give you the option during initial installation - there's also NO DEFAULT - you HAVE to accept or refuse it, in order to continue installation (I always refuse it on all the sets I install).
So (at least on Sony) you can't accidentally give permission for seeing your viewing habits. |
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bettter than a fridge which downloads porn.
knock at the door "this is the police and we have come to interview your cheese" |
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All the major brands have the option during installation, but usually it's an all or nothing choice, so most people press yes in order to not miss out on something. Almost nobody reads the terms and conditions, which in Samsung's case is a hefty 57 pages long in legalese, which even I as a tax lawyer find difficult to comprehend. Basically you sell your soul to Samsung without realising it.
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All the major brands have the option during installation, but usually it's an all or nothing choice, so most people press yes in order to not miss out on something.
However, assuming you press 'yes' does it matter?, it's no big deal is it - just people over reacting as usual
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In the future it won't be 3D glasses that we'll be wearing to watch television.
It'll be a burqa and talkbox... or clown masks |
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