He has a great voice, but the screechy-growly-screwy-face-thing he does really ruins it for me 
Andrea Faustini
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can you see him on girls bedroom wall posters? nope
can you see gossip in the papers about him? Nope (apart from secret gay lover exlusives)
he has a great voice - but very one directional and hard to see where he fits in the market.
Covers are one thing - selling an original song something totally different.
Such is the music industry.
can you see gossip in the papers about him? Nope (apart from secret gay lover exlusives)
he has a great voice - but very one directional and hard to see where he fits in the market.
Covers are one thing - selling an original song something totally different.
Such is the music industry.
Originally Posted by Pimlico_Pass:
“can you see him on girls bedroom wall posters? nope
can you see gossip in the papers about him? Nope (apart from secret gay lover exlusives)
he has a great voice - but very one directional and hard to see where he fits in the market.
Covers are one thing - selling an original song something totally different.
Such is the music industry.”
“can you see him on girls bedroom wall posters? nope
can you see gossip in the papers about him? Nope (apart from secret gay lover exlusives)
he has a great voice - but very one directional and hard to see where he fits in the market.
Covers are one thing - selling an original song something totally different.
Such is the music industry.”
Can you see Sam Smith on girls bedroom walls posters? No
Do you see gossip about him the press? No
Hasnt stopped him...
Originally Posted by Cassie..:
“Can you see Sam Smith on girls bedroom walls posters? No
Do you see gossip about him the press? No
Hasnt stopped him...”
“Can you see Sam Smith on girls bedroom walls posters? No
Do you see gossip about him the press? No
Hasnt stopped him...”
That's a very good point.
Originally Posted by Cassie..:
“Can you see Sam Smith on girls bedroom walls posters? No
Do you see gossip about him the press? No
Hasnt stopped him...”
“Can you see Sam Smith on girls bedroom walls posters? No
Do you see gossip about him the press? No
Hasnt stopped him...”
Thank you, Thank you at last someone talking sense here
He's not necessarily here to become a pop star....thats what Simon and Louis wanted for G4......and they clearly wasnt !!!!
Cant believe we are discussing the fact that Andrea isnt a pop star.....when he didn't claimto be be in the first place! !!!
Cant believe we are discussing the fact that Andrea isnt a pop star.....when he didn't claimto be be in the first place! !!!
Originally Posted by delz:
“Thank you, Thank you at last someone talking sense here”
“Thank you, Thank you at last someone talking sense here
”
But I can see Ben on their bedroom wall posters
I don't have pictures on my wall of my favourite artists, of whom I buy their records and go and see them in concerts.
For me personally Andrea is getting a bit stale for some reason. I really liked him at bootcamp, the judges houses and on week 1 of the live shows.
I feel that he is somewhat less 'versatile' than a lot of the other acts on the show. The problem with Andrea is he is beginning to remind me of Sam Bailey and i just don't see him being a big success after the show. I think image also really matters in the music business he looks a bit old for his age and he is chubby and not the best looking. I know i might be sound a bit shallow but image really is a big thing in the music business and i am only saying it as it is.
Realistically i see acts like Fleur, Lauren, possibly Ben and maybe OTY having some success after the show.
I feel that he is somewhat less 'versatile' than a lot of the other acts on the show. The problem with Andrea is he is beginning to remind me of Sam Bailey and i just don't see him being a big success after the show. I think image also really matters in the music business he looks a bit old for his age and he is chubby and not the best looking. I know i might be sound a bit shallow but image really is a big thing in the music business and i am only saying it as it is.
Realistically i see acts like Fleur, Lauren, possibly Ben and maybe OTY having some success after the show.
Originally Posted by Pimlico_Pass:
“can you see him on girls bedroom wall posters? nope
can you see gossip in the papers about him? Nope (apart from secret gay lover exlusives)
he has a great voice - but very one directional and hard to see where he fits in the market.
Covers are one thing - selling an original song something totally different.
Such is the music industry.”
“can you see him on girls bedroom wall posters? nope
can you see gossip in the papers about him? Nope (apart from secret gay lover exlusives)
he has a great voice - but very one directional and hard to see where he fits in the market.
Covers are one thing - selling an original song something totally different.
Such is the music industry.”
I wouldn't call Olly a teen pin up, but it hasn't stopped him being successful
Originally Posted by sali9362:
“For me personally Andrea is getting a bit stale for some reason. I really liked him at bootcamp, the judges houses and on week 1 of the live shows.
I feel that he is somewhat less 'versatile' than a lot of the other acts on the show. The problem with Andrea is he is beginning to remind me of Sam Bailey and i just don't see him being a big success after the show. I think image also really matters in the music business he looks a bit old for his age and he is chubby and not the best looking. I know i might be sound a bit shallow but image really is a big thing in the music business and i am only saying it as it is.
Realistically i see acts like Fleur, Lauren, possibly Ben and maybe OTY having some success after the show.”
“For me personally Andrea is getting a bit stale for some reason. I really liked him at bootcamp, the judges houses and on week 1 of the live shows.
I feel that he is somewhat less 'versatile' than a lot of the other acts on the show. The problem with Andrea is he is beginning to remind me of Sam Bailey and i just don't see him being a big success after the show. I think image also really matters in the music business he looks a bit old for his age and he is chubby and not the best looking. I know i might be sound a bit shallow but image really is a big thing in the music business and i am only saying it as it is.
Realistically i see acts like Fleur, Lauren, possibly Ben and maybe OTY having some success after the show.”
I only started watching at boot camp and thought he stood out from the rest and was a cert to win but soon changed my mind as I said before no one stands out to me possibly it's the way the acts are being changed from who they really are and what they want to sing
Originally Posted by delz:
“I don't have pictures on my wall of my favourite artists, of whom I buy their records and go and see them in concerts.”
“I don't have pictures on my wall of my favourite artists, of whom I buy their records and go and see them in concerts.”
That's because you're (I'm just guessing here!) not 13, a bit hormonal, and have just a single room to decorate to your own tastes! Teenagers tend to have just one room in their parents' house that they can express themselves in. Posters are the time honoured way of doing this.
The problem with the people on those posters - in 18 months to 2 years time, the average 15/16 year old girl goes 'ugh, what was I thinking?!' and rips them all down, replacing them with her new favourites! There's a reason why artists marketed to the teen market are so ephemeral, and on a continually replacing cycle. The teenagers who loved them grow up and, by their late teens, have expanded their tastes, and (mostly) left behind the obsessiveness of dedicating themselves to a single artist or band (and all those twitter handles along the lines of 'I'm gonna marry Harry Styles/Bieber etc' will disappear in the not-so-distant future, amid much embarrassment for the owners!).
The acts that don't specifically court the teens - Adele, Sam Smith and the likes - are the ones with built in longevity. Their fan base are far less likely to grow out of them, and are also much less influenced by 'are they hot?'! So Andrea has the beginnings of a fanbase, and can build on that, mostly free of the restrictions of having to cater to a specific demographic. Versatility isn't necessary for him either - he can do one thing very, very well, and have a great career if he works at being the best 'male diva' around. Sam Smith was absolutely right that there's a gap in the market for an artist like Andrea - I think, if he's managed well, he can absolutely fit into that gap and have a great career with it.
The thing is, unlike Sam Bailey - married, 3 kids, mid-30s woman - Andrea is 20 years old, and can be a young artist even whilst singing the big ballads. Sam was tied by her image and family circumstances almost from the moment she won. She got pregnant, she faced criticism for it and is subject to a lot more critique simply because she's a female in this industry. Andrea's only limitation is his sexuality - and that's become a near non-issue in recent years. He's got the best voice in the competition - Fleur is the more complete 'pop package' - and the voice nearly always comes through in the end, when you're talking future careers of XF solo artists.
Originally Posted by dizzie:
“That's because you're (I'm just guessing here!) not 13, a bit hormonal, and have just a single room to decorate to your own tastes! Teenagers tend to have just one room in their parents' house that they can express themselves in. Posters are the time honoured way of doing this.
The problem with the people on those posters - in 18 months to 2 years time, the average 15/16 year old girl goes 'ugh, what was I thinking?!' and rips them all down, replacing them with her new favourites! There's a reason why artists marketed to the teen market are so ephemeral, and on a continually replacing cycle. The teenagers who loved them grow up and, by their late teens, have expanded their tastes, and (mostly) left behind the obsessiveness of dedicating themselves to a single artist or band (and all those twitter handles along the lines of 'I'm gonna marry Harry Styles/Bieber etc' will disappear in the not-so-distant future, amid much embarrassment for the owners!).
The acts that don't specifically court the teens - Adele, Sam Smith and the likes - are the ones with built in longevity. Their fan base are far less likely to grow out of them, and are also much less influenced by 'are they hot?'! So Andrea has the beginnings of a fanbase, and can build on that, mostly free of the restrictions of having to cater to a specific demographic. Versatility isn't necessary for him either - he can do one thing very, very well, and have a great career if he works at being the best 'male diva' around. Sam Smith was absolutely right that there's a gap in the market for an artist like Andrea - I think, if he's managed well, he can absolutely fit into that gap and have a great career with it.
The thing is, unlike Sam Bailey - married, 3 kids, mid-30s woman - Andrea is 20 years old, and can be a young artist even whilst singing the big ballads. Sam was tied by her image and family circumstances almost from the moment she won. She got pregnant, she faced criticism for it and is subject to a lot more critique simply because she's a female in this industry. Andrea's only limitation is his sexuality - and that's become a near non-issue in recent years. He's got the best voice in the competition - Fleur is the more complete 'pop package' - and the voice nearly always comes through in the end, when you're talking future careers of XF solo artists.”
“That's because you're (I'm just guessing here!) not 13, a bit hormonal, and have just a single room to decorate to your own tastes! Teenagers tend to have just one room in their parents' house that they can express themselves in. Posters are the time honoured way of doing this.
The problem with the people on those posters - in 18 months to 2 years time, the average 15/16 year old girl goes 'ugh, what was I thinking?!' and rips them all down, replacing them with her new favourites! There's a reason why artists marketed to the teen market are so ephemeral, and on a continually replacing cycle. The teenagers who loved them grow up and, by their late teens, have expanded their tastes, and (mostly) left behind the obsessiveness of dedicating themselves to a single artist or band (and all those twitter handles along the lines of 'I'm gonna marry Harry Styles/Bieber etc' will disappear in the not-so-distant future, amid much embarrassment for the owners!).
The acts that don't specifically court the teens - Adele, Sam Smith and the likes - are the ones with built in longevity. Their fan base are far less likely to grow out of them, and are also much less influenced by 'are they hot?'! So Andrea has the beginnings of a fanbase, and can build on that, mostly free of the restrictions of having to cater to a specific demographic. Versatility isn't necessary for him either - he can do one thing very, very well, and have a great career if he works at being the best 'male diva' around. Sam Smith was absolutely right that there's a gap in the market for an artist like Andrea - I think, if he's managed well, he can absolutely fit into that gap and have a great career with it.
The thing is, unlike Sam Bailey - married, 3 kids, mid-30s woman - Andrea is 20 years old, and can be a young artist even whilst singing the big ballads. Sam was tied by her image and family circumstances almost from the moment she won. She got pregnant, she faced criticism for it and is subject to a lot more critique simply because she's a female in this industry. Andrea's only limitation is his sexuality - and that's become a near non-issue in recent years. He's got the best voice in the competition - Fleur is the more complete 'pop package' - and the voice nearly always comes through in the end, when you're talking future careers of XF solo artists.”
Lol Im not 13 you're right but may be a bit hormonal
You've much better made the point I was trying to say,
I think Andrea has a great voice but he'll probably end up winning or close, release an album possibly in time for mothers day and then that will be about it in the UK.
Originally Posted by delz:
“What is the obsession with mothers day albums on this forum? anyway I'd buy it ;p”
“What is the obsession with mothers day albums on this forum?
anyway I'd buy it ;p”
Its a tried and tested path for xfactor alumni. Tesco Mary, Sam Bailey, Jermain douglas was offered an album of coverts for mothers day, Nicholas mcdonald... Im sure theeres more if I googled! :P
Edit*
Andy Abraham, Journey south, G4, Ray Quinn all released albums around that special day to cash in!
Originally Posted by sali9362:
“The problem with Andrea is he is beginning to remind me of Sam Bailey and i just don't see him being a big success after the show.”
“The problem with Andrea is he is beginning to remind me of Sam Bailey and i just don't see him being a big success after the show.”
Sam Bailey has possibly been held back because of her health
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-29934662
Originally Posted by sali9362:
“For me personally Andrea is getting a bit stale for some reason. I really liked him at bootcamp, the judges houses and on week 1 of the live shows.
I feel that he is somewhat less 'versatile' than a lot of the other acts on the show. The problem with Andrea is he is beginning to remind me of Sam Bailey and i just don't see him being a big success after the show. I think image also really matters in the music business he looks a bit old for his age and he is chubby and not the best looking. I know i might be sound a bit shallow but image really is a big thing in the music business and i am only saying it as it is.
Realistically i see acts like Fleur, Lauren, possibly Ben and maybe OTY having some success after the show.”
“For me personally Andrea is getting a bit stale for some reason. I really liked him at bootcamp, the judges houses and on week 1 of the live shows.
I feel that he is somewhat less 'versatile' than a lot of the other acts on the show. The problem with Andrea is he is beginning to remind me of Sam Bailey and i just don't see him being a big success after the show. I think image also really matters in the music business he looks a bit old for his age and he is chubby and not the best looking. I know i might be sound a bit shallow but image really is a big thing in the music business and i am only saying it as it is.
Realistically i see acts like Fleur, Lauren, possibly Ben and maybe OTY having some success after the show.”
Agree that he is now seeming a bit one dimensional. His voice is good but can be screechy at times - when he tries too hard. Not the best singer - but seems to be one of this years chosen ones - so will make it to the final.
I'm sorry, but you can't put Andrea in with Sam Bailey, they couldn't be more different. Andrea has a good shot in the future if they put money into him (That's the key to every X Factor act that has had success). Surely Sam Smith on the show yesterday made that apparent. Besides Andrea certainly has good looks where I'm concerned. I'm not sure why people are so obsessed with putting people into categories anyway. as other posters have said, recent artists who have gained popularity don't fit this traditional popstar mold and it's going well for them.
The reason people succeed or fail in this industry has little to do with the content and all to do with money poured into them. Would 1D be anywhere if Simon hadn't made that initial decision to take a gamble and invest millions into their PR and marketing? I don't think so.
I really hope whatever happens with Andrea it will go well for him. He's got a great personality to carry him through, I think he'd actually make a good TV presenter
. I'm not sure why people are so obsessed with putting people into categories anyway. as other posters have said, recent artists who have gained popularity don't fit this traditional popstar mold and it's going well for them.The reason people succeed or fail in this industry has little to do with the content and all to do with money poured into them. Would 1D be anywhere if Simon hadn't made that initial decision to take a gamble and invest millions into their PR and marketing? I don't think so.
I really hope whatever happens with Andrea it will go well for him. He's got a great personality to carry him through, I think he'd actually make a good TV presenter
Acts marketed more toward "adult contemporary" type genres actually have another advantage-older listeners are old enough to attend shows at any venue and more likely to actually *purchase* music, even though it is widely available for free.
Originally Posted by dizzie:
“That's because you're (I'm just guessing here!) not 13, a bit hormonal, and have just a single room to decorate to your own tastes! Teenagers tend to have just one room in their parents' house that they can express themselves in. Posters are the time honoured way of doing this.
The problem with the people on those posters - in 18 months to 2 years time, the average 15/16 year old girl goes 'ugh, what was I thinking?!' and rips them all down, replacing them with her new favourites! There's a reason why artists marketed to the teen market are so ephemeral, and on a continually replacing cycle. The teenagers who loved them grow up and, by their late teens, have expanded their tastes, and (mostly) left behind the obsessiveness of dedicating themselves to a single artist or band (and all those twitter handles along the lines of 'I'm gonna marry Harry Styles/Bieber etc' will disappear in the not-so-distant future, amid much embarrassment for the owners!).
The acts that don't specifically court the teens - Adele, Sam Smith and the likes - are the ones with built in longevity. Their fan base are far less likely to grow out of them, and are also much less influenced by 'are they hot?'! So Andrea has the beginnings of a fanbase, and can build on that, mostly free of the restrictions of having to cater to a specific demographic. Versatility isn't necessary for him either - he can do one thing very, very well, and have a great career if he works at being the best 'male diva' around. Sam Smith was absolutely right that there's a gap in the market for an artist like Andrea - I think, if he's managed well, he can absolutely fit into that gap and have a great career with it.
The thing is, unlike Sam Bailey - married, 3 kids, mid-30s woman - Andrea is 20 years old, and can be a young artist even whilst singing the big ballads. Sam was tied by her image and family circumstances almost from the moment she won. She got pregnant, she faced criticism for it and is subject to a lot more critique simply because she's a female in this industry. Andrea's only limitation is his sexuality - and that's become a near non-issue in recent years. He's got the best voice in the competition - Fleur is the more complete 'pop package' - and the voice nearly always comes through in the end, when you're talking future careers of XF solo artists.”
“That's because you're (I'm just guessing here!) not 13, a bit hormonal, and have just a single room to decorate to your own tastes! Teenagers tend to have just one room in their parents' house that they can express themselves in. Posters are the time honoured way of doing this.
The problem with the people on those posters - in 18 months to 2 years time, the average 15/16 year old girl goes 'ugh, what was I thinking?!' and rips them all down, replacing them with her new favourites! There's a reason why artists marketed to the teen market are so ephemeral, and on a continually replacing cycle. The teenagers who loved them grow up and, by their late teens, have expanded their tastes, and (mostly) left behind the obsessiveness of dedicating themselves to a single artist or band (and all those twitter handles along the lines of 'I'm gonna marry Harry Styles/Bieber etc' will disappear in the not-so-distant future, amid much embarrassment for the owners!).
The acts that don't specifically court the teens - Adele, Sam Smith and the likes - are the ones with built in longevity. Their fan base are far less likely to grow out of them, and are also much less influenced by 'are they hot?'! So Andrea has the beginnings of a fanbase, and can build on that, mostly free of the restrictions of having to cater to a specific demographic. Versatility isn't necessary for him either - he can do one thing very, very well, and have a great career if he works at being the best 'male diva' around. Sam Smith was absolutely right that there's a gap in the market for an artist like Andrea - I think, if he's managed well, he can absolutely fit into that gap and have a great career with it.
The thing is, unlike Sam Bailey - married, 3 kids, mid-30s woman - Andrea is 20 years old, and can be a young artist even whilst singing the big ballads. Sam was tied by her image and family circumstances almost from the moment she won. She got pregnant, she faced criticism for it and is subject to a lot more critique simply because she's a female in this industry. Andrea's only limitation is his sexuality - and that's become a near non-issue in recent years. He's got the best voice in the competition - Fleur is the more complete 'pop package' - and the voice nearly always comes through in the end, when you're talking future careers of XF solo artists.”
This is one of the best answers I've read in a while! Very well thought out and very very true
Has Andrea's sexuality been confirmed anywhere?
Originally Posted by JazzyJaney:
“I'm sorry, but you can't put Andrea in with Sam Bailey, they couldn't be more different. Andrea has a good shot in the future if they put money into him (That's the key to every X Factor act that has had success). Surely Sam Smith on the show yesterday made that apparent. Besides Andrea certainly has good looks where I'm concerned. I'm not sure why people are so obsessed with putting people into categories anyway. as other posters have said, recent artists who have gained popularity don't fit this traditional popstar mold and it's going well for them.
The reason people succeed or fail in this industry has little to do with the content and all to do with money poured into them. Would 1D be anywhere if Simon hadn't made that initial decision to take a gamble and invest millions into their PR and marketing? I don't think so.
I really hope whatever happens with Andrea it will go well for him. He's got a great personality to carry him through, I think he'd actually make a good TV presenter”
“I'm sorry, but you can't put Andrea in with Sam Bailey, they couldn't be more different. Andrea has a good shot in the future if they put money into him (That's the key to every X Factor act that has had success). Surely Sam Smith on the show yesterday made that apparent. Besides Andrea certainly has good looks where I'm concerned
. I'm not sure why people are so obsessed with putting people into categories anyway. as other posters have said, recent artists who have gained popularity don't fit this traditional popstar mold and it's going well for them.The reason people succeed or fail in this industry has little to do with the content and all to do with money poured into them. Would 1D be anywhere if Simon hadn't made that initial decision to take a gamble and invest millions into their PR and marketing? I don't think so.
I really hope whatever happens with Andrea it will go well for him. He's got a great personality to carry him through, I think he'd actually make a good TV presenter
”
Totally agree!!
I dont think you can compare Andrea to anyone, he is one on his own - unique!!
Originally Posted by Felix-:
“This is one of the best answers I've read in a while! Very well thought out and very very true
Has Andrea's sexuality been confirmed anywhere?”
“This is one of the best answers I've read in a while! Very well thought out and very very true
Has Andrea's sexuality been confirmed anywhere?”
As far as I've seen he's stated he's never had a girlfriend, and Beyonce is his crush. He still seems quite childlike to me (That's why I really identify with him myself) Of course he could simply not wish to open up about his sexuality, and it doesn't matter one jot to me if he is gay. But being camp doesn't necessarily equal being gay, take Laurence Llewelyn-Bowen for an example
. Anyway this is a very sweet article where Andrea talks about it if you're interested.http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/enterta...ustini-4451842
Originally Posted by Felix-:
“This is one of the best answers I've read in a while! Very well thought out and very very true
Has Andrea's sexuality been confirmed anywhere?”
“This is one of the best answers I've read in a while! Very well thought out and very very true
Has Andrea's sexuality been confirmed anywhere?”
Why would it matter?He's a singer, not a porn star!
Originally Posted by delz:
“Thank you, Thank you at last someone talking sense here”
“Thank you, Thank you at last someone talking sense here
”
Yes I agree Andrea will do very well once the X Factor is finished - he will then be able to concentrate on songs that he wants to sing as oppose to songs relating to themes. Andrea to WIN - Come on Andrea do it for us Italians.
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