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Paul hits back
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jerefprdterra
10-11-2014
Had a feeling this would be coming. http://tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/the...fter-exit.html
Patti-Ann
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by jerefprdterra:
“Had a feeling this would be coming. http://tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/the...fter-exit.html”

He's only saying he was badly edited in the VT's, which is true

The article also says:

Quote:
“Following the results, X Factor producer Mark Sidaway tweeted support for Paul: “@PaulAkister shouldn’t have gone tonight. I’m gonna try and make something happen.””

So we wait and see
footygirl
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by Patti-Ann:
“He's only saying he was badly edited in the VT's, which is true

The article also says:



So we wait and see ”

Paul should be reinstated, and Simon and Louis should both resign
jerefprdterra
10-11-2014
As it was the public that voted him off the show, i can't see Paul being reinstated.
Malc London
10-11-2014
Should the public also resign? They sent Paul home.
LH1
10-11-2014
He told the truth although watching Xtra Factor last night, he was too upset to "blast" anything!
Hollie_Louise
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“Paul should be reinstated, and Simon and Louis should both resign”

No he shouldn't. The person with the least votes went. People should have voted more obviously.
Dextor_Morgan
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by Hollie_Louise:
“No he shouldn't. The person with the least votes went. People should have voted more obviously.”

Spot on, people keep whining about the result of the sing off, if more had voted and he wasn't in the bottom two it wouldn't be an issue. At the end of the day he didn't connect with the majority of voters. Simples.
mrsgrumpy49
10-11-2014
I'm astonished that people have such faith in the veracity of the vote count.
But even if it were true, Simon went from singing his praises to the opposite so I'm guessing something changed behind the scenes. Plus Simon was clearly trying to manipulate public opinion.
When the likes of Stevi are still there, the whole thing is clearly a crock of poo. Seriously people need to google that guy.
Paul was on Good Morning Britain today and was gracious and smiley.
mrsgrumpy49
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by Malc London:
“They sent Paul home.”

Yes of course they did ha ha. They also voted for Stevi. How could one possibly have any doubts?
Dextor_Morgan
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by mrsgrumpy49:
“Yes of course they did ha ha.”

Would like to hear more, are you suggesting vote rigging or some other reason he landed in the bottom two?
People are bleating and crying their fave act was being 'manipulated' etc etc yet they were not fooled by it yet the 'general public' were all stupid enough to fall for it. Hilarious.
Evilredzebra
10-11-2014
He did get a bad edit - very obvious they wanted him out. What I remember most is the feedback telling him to listen to his mentor, and not so much about the performances.

The one thing that did surprise me last night was that Simon didn't start talking about Jay's background in the Marines to get the judges on side to vote for him as you can't have a veteran voted out on Remembrance Sunday. But of course I'm pretty sure the judges know exactly how it's going to play out so it wasn't needed.
patricia50
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by Dextor_Morgan:
“Would like to hear more, are you suggesting vote rigging or some other reason he landed in the bottom two?
People are bleating and crying their fave act was being 'manipulated' etc etc yet they were not fooled by it yet the 'general public' were all stupid enough to fall for it. Hilarious.”

What's hilarious is anyone believing that the public actually has any real effect on the outcome.
cas1977
10-11-2014
Paul may have a great voice, but he has no star quality, no charisma, and no stage presence - imo - I couldn't believe he got good feedback from the judges following his performance on Sat night. Yes he sung it well, but there was no performance as such. Just kept on waving his hands about.

And his image is crap as well, I think that whoever put his pudgy legs in those awful tight jeans should also be sacked as well!

Even if he'd stayed, and maybe even won, I doubt he'd ever be a star. I liken him to a male Sam Bailey.
No idea if the vote is rigged or not, most likely it is, though Simon was right when he said it isnt' always about the voice, but the x factor, and clearly Paul doesn't have the x factor.
mrsgrumpy49
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by patricia50:
“What's hilarious is anyone believing that the public actually has any real effect on the outcome.”

Yes I agree. I'm not going to say 'vote rigging' as I don't want to be sued Let's just say the whole show is a construct. And yes plenty of the public are frighteningly gullible.
Fudd
10-11-2014
There is no way they would risk rigging the vote but there are ways they can 'guide' the public towards some acts and away from others.
Dextor_Morgan
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“There is no way they would risk rigging the vote but there are ways they can 'guide' the public towards some acts and away from others.”

This I agree with, what makes me laugh is the high and mighty claims that "I know they manipulated it and wasn't fooled, however the rest of the voters are stupid".
Not enough voted = bye bye
Dextor_Morgan
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by patricia50:
“What's hilarious is anyone believing that the public actually has any real effect on the outcome.”

Is that the same public that decided to get Rage Against The Machine to number 1 instead of the x-factor single?
shackfan
10-11-2014
Bottom line is Louis is paid quite a bit of ml money and he should have been professional enough to just send home the worse sing off singer. That was Jay.
They really should all write down secretly who they are voting for then all show their cards together. They then can't be swayed. It's not rocket science.
John Dough
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“Paul should be reinstated, and Simon and Louis should both resign”

Cheryl should join them although I doubt her time on the show will last much longer either way.
Scarlet O'Hara
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by cas1977:
“Paul may have a great voice, but he has no star quality, no charisma, and no stage presence - imo - I couldn't believe he got good feedback from the judges following his performance on Sat night. Yes he sung it well, but there was no performance as such. Just kept on waving his hands about.

And his image is crap as well, I think that whoever put his pudgy legs in those awful tight jeans should also be sacked as well!

Even if he'd stayed, and maybe even won, I doubt he'd ever be a star. I liken him to a male Sam Bailey.
No idea if the vote is rigged or not, most likely it is, though Simon was right when he said it isnt' always about the voice, but the x factor, and clearly Paul doesn't have the x factor.”

I completely agree. But we're apparently moronic robots falling for TXF's manipulations. Excuse me while I clear space on my hard drive before next week's download instructions from producers.

Originally Posted by mrsgrumpy49:
“Yes I agree. I'm not going to say 'vote rigging' as I don't want to be sued Let's just say the whole show is a construct. And yes plenty of the public are frighteningly gullible. ”

You do know these things are independently delivered and regulated and that anything dodgy would be catastrophic for the show AND the channel?

Don't you remember the furore and the penalties a few years back when several shows failed to do things like say phone lines were closed, or having fake guests on, etc. Which led to a tightening up of the rules and is the reason why every show has umpteen announcements and diligence processes. You only have to read some of Ofcom's reports to see the trivial mistakes that shows, even tiny shows on cable, now get found guilty of.

So how, in the face of all that risk, could votes on one of the UK's most 'in the spotlight' shows be rigged? And how are the public, this amorphous mass of humans who are clearly not enlightened like you, "frighteningly gullible"?
sali9362
10-11-2014
To be honest i have already moved on from the fact that Paul is gone, at the end of the day the public didn't support him enough despite all of the backstage and on-screen manipulation seen.

What bothers me is what is the point of having a sing-off then, isn't that suppose to allow the judges some form of control over the outcome of the public vote. Isn't the purpose suppose to be to take the act who performed better through to the next round?

If that is the case then Jay should have gone home, he also wasn't exactly liked by the public much more than Paul as he had the second lowest number of votes.

I agree with the people who have suggested that they should get them both to perform in the sing-off and then open the phone lines for 10 mins and see who gets the most votes. This makes it fair and also allows the public to change their mind on who they want to keep and prevents any 'fix' allegations either.

In Paul's case he wasn't going to win anyway and i think most people realized that from week 4 when they portrayed as a moaning ungrateful diva. His was basically on borrowed time from there onwards. He just didn't have the whole package needed to win the competition and lacked stage presence plus winning wouldn't have been the best thing for him either. He will attain much more success now outside of the show by being signed by someone else as he has an amazing voice.
LMAO
10-11-2014
He`s not the first good singer that has been voted out early & he won`t be the last... He was never gonna win anyway, but I do feel for him missing out on the live tour when we still have people like Stevi in there.

What I find more worrying is comments like....

Following the results, X Factor producer Mark Sidaway tweeted support for Paul: “@PaulAkister shouldn’t have gone tonight. I’m gonna try and make something happen.”

As if there isn`t already enough conspiracy theories about things being fixed or manipulated in shows like this, what a stupid comment for a producer to make.
Dannyb01y
10-11-2014
The title of this thread is pretty misleading! He didn't hit back as such it was just a discussion about why he might have come last in the vote.

X Factor producer Mark Sidaway's comment probably means they'll try to get him on tour - no grand conspiracy theories pur-lease!

At the end of the day yes the public didn't vote but my gosh was his vt negative last week, this week he was supposed to sing and smile inanely at the same time?!!?!?!? Where were the vts of his mum or his brother?

Song choices were crap 2 weeks running as well.
jerefprdterra
11-11-2014
More from Paul http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/29993870
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