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Old 14-11-2014, 09:47
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Really cant see it myself.
In my opinion Paul should be reinstated in the competition
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Old 14-11-2014, 09:54
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In my opinion Paul should be reinstated in the competition
It just would'nt happen as the public had him in the bottom two, and if they do it for one contestant, there would be many more of the contestants that have been knocked out complaining.

The best way forward for Paul is to probably apply to go on 'The Voice' where he might well stand a better chance.
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Old 14-11-2014, 10:41
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It just would'nt happen as the public had him in the bottom two, and if they do it for one contestant, there would be many more of the contestants that have been knocked out complaining.

The best way forward for Paul is to probably apply to go on 'The Voice' where he might well stand a better chance.
As much as I would like to see Paul reinstated, I agree, as it would set a precedent for any other "wronged" act in the future, and this is certain to happen again and again and again. I think the title X factor is their "get out clause". When people say this is supposed to be a singing competition, then they can argue that they're looking for something more and that singing is only a small part of it.

What I do hate though is the blatant manipulation of the audience, but again without it and all the other controversy such as crap acts being kept in over true talent and would people watch and talk about it so much if it was just a heap of excellent singers belting out great tunes every week?

It's a game of two halves really - The show - it's got to be entertaining otherwise nobody would watch it and then the outcome. Stevi for instance may be keeping us "entertained" and giving us stuff to talk about, would people buy his albums?...shouldn't think so. That's why the one's Simon wants to win are steered into their correct positions in the closing shows and final.

Good luck Paul though think you'll succeed anyway! x
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Old 14-11-2014, 10:48
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As much as I would like to see Paul reinstated, I agree, as it would set a precedent for any other "wronged" act in the future, and this is certain to happen again and again and again. I think the title X factor is their "get out clause". When people say this is supposed to be a singing competition, then they can argue that they're looking for something more and that singing is only a small part of it.

What I do hate though is the blatant manipulation of the audience, but again without it and all the other controversy such as crap acts being kept in over true talent and would people watch and talk about it so much if it was just a heap of excellent singers belting out great tunes every week?

It's a game of two halves really - The show - it's got to be entertaining otherwise nobody would watch it and then the outcome. Stevi for instance may be keeping us "entertained" and giving us stuff to talk about, would people buy his albums?...shouldn't think so. That's why the one's Simon wants to win are steered into their correct positions in the closing shows and final.

Good luck Paul though think you'll succeed anyway! x
Some good points made here. I doubt if many people would actually buy any records that Stevi made, which is why i can see him heading home this weekend. .
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Old 14-11-2014, 10:57
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Paul should be on the tour (& Lola) mad to think Stevi has made it over them
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Old 14-11-2014, 13:57
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Just come on, Its great, 2516. I believe now the target is 5000. Get your friends interested.
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Old 14-11-2014, 14:01
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In my opinion Paul should be reinstated in the competition
I agree but even if he was put on the tour it would be recognition of his talents.
So do the 2516 who have signed the petition. The aim now is 5000. Are they listening. Maybe we will hear on Saturday, probably it will be left to Dermot.
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Old 14-11-2014, 14:22
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I agree but even if he was put on the tour it would be recognition of his talents.
So do the 2516 who have signed the petition. The aim now is 5000. Are they listening. Maybe we will hear on Saturday, probably it will be left to Dermot.
If anything is said this weekend then I think it should come from Cowell's mouth
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Old 14-11-2014, 14:25
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I doubt if anything will be mentioned to be honest.
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Old 14-11-2014, 16:16
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If anything is said this weekend then I think it should come from Cowell's mouth
Cowel should bloody well apologise to paul and his fans he is the master of manipulation and there was something unfair afoot last weekend i am sure of it
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Old 15-11-2014, 11:23
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Cowel should bloody well apologise to paul and his fans he is the master of manipulation and there was something unfair afoot last weekend i am sure of it
He knows that, we know that - It's the "Elephant in the room!" Is he going to say " yes, sorry Paul, I had to get rid of you, so I used all the dirty tricks in the book to make sure that happened, but really I'm sorry, it shouldn't have happened and something like this will never happen again!?" Of course he isn't!

Would it be his place to do that anyway? After all it was his act (Jay) Paul was up against so it's more than acceptable that he should keep Jay in over Paul, however, being the master puppeteer, he knew he could rely on his underling to do the dirty work for him.

I agree, there was something fishy going on last week, the early voting was enough to tell us that, despite having to make room for the biggest band in the universe to perform!
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Old 15-11-2014, 11:46
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He knows that, we know that - It's the "Elephant in the room!" Is he going to say " yes, sorry Paul, I had to get rid of you, so I used all the dirty tricks in the book to make sure that happened, but really I'm sorry, it shouldn't have happened and something like this will never happen again!?" Of course he isn't!

Would it be his place to do that anyway? After all it was his act (Jay) Paul was up against so it's more than acceptable that he should keep Jay in over Paul, however, being the master puppeteer, he knew he could rely on his underling to do the dirty work for him.

I agree, there was something fishy going on last week, the early voting was enough to tell us that, despite having to make room for the biggest band in the universe to perform!
Didn't Cowell once send hone his own act, was it the Conway sisters. If he dud that why did he not send home Jay
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Old 15-11-2014, 11:55
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Didn't Cowell once send hone his own act, was it the Conway sisters. If he dud that why did he not send home Jay
That might have happened, yes, but the point I was trying to make is that by keeping his own act in the competition isn't going to make him look bad (even if the other act performed better). And to be fair to Jay he sang well in the sing off. Personally I thought Paul sung better and has been consistently better than Jay throughout the show...but to me there was no reason last week why he would send off his own act!
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Old 15-11-2014, 13:12
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cowell and walsh have deprived me of hearing paul in big band week fed up
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Old 15-11-2014, 13:26
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cowell and walsh have deprived me of hearing paul in big band week fed up
I am boycotting x factor now
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Old 15-11-2014, 13:31
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cowell and walsh have deprived me of hearing paul in big band week fed up
Same here. And I'm annoyed that they changed the format of the results show on Sunday and there was no five minute warning. Imagine if, in any other type of competition, the format was changed half way through. There would be uproar.
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Old 15-11-2014, 13:35
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Same here. And I'm annoyed that they changed the format of the results show on Sunday and there was no five minute warning. Imagine if, in any other type of competition, the format was changed half way through. There would be uproar.
That's why I am boycotting the programme
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Old 15-11-2014, 13:40
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That's why I am boycotting the programme
And me ...i put this in another thread but had they asked walsh first i think he would have saved paul and so would cheryl the whole thing was rigged
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Old 15-11-2014, 13:43
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And me ...i put this in another thread but had they asked walsh first i think he would have saved paul and so would cheryl the whole thing was rigged
I would not have kept jay at all
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