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So Timelords can not only change their gender, but sexuality as well.
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ClassicGarfield
11-11-2014
The Master as a man had a wife (Lucy) and now as a woman (Missy) she displayed a lot of sexual affection towards men - even referring to the doctor as her boyfriend early on and then giving him a bit of a heated kiss on the lips later.

Stands to reason then that Timelords can not only change their gender, but their sexuality too.

Could we see a gay Doctor at some point? I'd think that'd be cool
cpikey316_
11-11-2014
Remember CE's doctor with Captain Jack.

That leads me to believe timelords dont see sexuality in the same way we do.
soulboy77
11-11-2014
No, you are looking at the Master regenerated as Missy as being a man in a female body, which is not the case. 'She' is now a women so would only be gay if she fancied another women.
Talma
11-11-2014
Originally Posted by cpikey316_:
“Remember CE's doctor with Captain Jack.

That leads me to believe timelords dont see sexuality in the same way we do.”

I think that was more Jack just being himself and flirting with both him and Rose than 9 being much more than trying to be Alpha male' as far as Rose was concerned..

And seeing as the Master is the only one we've seen to change, and we know he's always been loopy no matter who or what he is, we have no idea how the 'normal' time lords react.
AdelaideGirl
11-11-2014
Originally Posted by Talma:
“I think that was more Jack just being himself and flirting with both him and Rose than 9 being much more than trying to be Alpha male' as far as Rose was concerned..

And seeing as the Master is the only one we've seen to change, and we know he's always been loopy no matter who or what he is, we have no idea how the 'normal' time lords react.”

The Doctor was clearly very comfortable with Jack being Pansexual and amused by Rose's surprise at it. Also the way the Doctor talked about the Corsair, the first Time Lord mentioned as changing Gender, was pretty flirty and given he's not human being open to a relationship with a human shows he is open to crossing some barriers. I mean isn't interspecies relationship a bigger deal than a same sex one?
nanscombe
11-11-2014
Imagine the outrage if someone admitted having sexual feelings towards their pet Iguana, but a Silurian ... not a problem.
Si_Crewe
11-11-2014
Originally Posted by ClassicGarfield:
“Stands to reason then that Timelords can not only change their gender, but their sexuality too.”

Hardly surprising really.

I mean, surely a regenerated time-lord would adopt a sexuality to match their new gender in much the same way that they'd adopt, say, a new way of walking to suit new legs and feet or adopt a new way of writing to suit new hands and fingers?

Seems like if a person couldn't manage to achieve that, they wouldn't even be able to control a new body in even the most basic way.

I guess it points to a rather enlightened attitude in time-lords though.
James Frederick
11-11-2014
I don't think Time Lords see sexuality the same way as us
For example you could be married then get a call your partner has had a accident had has regenerated but they may have swapped genders when they regenerated so maybe they just carry on to them it's the same person.
johnnysaucepn
11-11-2014
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“I don't think Time Lords see sexuality the same way as us
For example you could be married then get a call your partner has had a accident had has regenerated but they may have swapped genders when they regenerated so maybe they just carry on to them it's the same person.”

Is there any evidence that Time Lords even marry? I mean, for a race that essentially goes on forever, prides themselves on intellect, and doesn't throw itself into decisions (to the point of stagnation), would they even bother with things like romantic commitment?
James Frederick
11-11-2014
Originally Posted by johnnysaucepn:
“Is there any evidence that Time Lords even marry? I mean, for a race that essentially goes on forever, prides themselves on intellect, and doesn't throw itself into decisions (to the point of stagnation), would they even bother with things like romantic commitment?”

Well they are not emotionless species it has been shown even in the classic they do feel love and can fall in love (Susan left to marry)

The Doctor married River and hinted the only time his real name could be reviled was when he got married.

Unless how children are created on Gallifrey (the normal way or looming) is confirmed on the show we may not know how things like that work.

It could work like Vulcans they do marry and feel emotion ( A mistake often made is people think Vulcans have no emotion when it's more they can just control them) but it's more for procreation than anything else.


I would say if they do marry ect they may have to get used to chnage as even if they keep their gender the next incarnation may look very different to the current one so maybe it's just something they don't think about to much.
Mulett
11-11-2014
Honestly, I think The Master always suffered unrequited love for the Doctor. Being a woman simply expressed that part of character more obviously.

That said, I don't think he necessarily needed to regenerate into a female form for that to happen. Each regeneration changes a Time Lord's physical appearances but also emphasises different aspects of their character.

It's quite possible the Master could have regenerated into another male, but one who camped it up just as much as Missy did.

Missy is AMAZING by the way. No way is she dead!!
Maxatoria
11-11-2014
I'd imagine that the bond between the doctor and the master is so very strong that while they've gone their own ways they'll still have a connection as if the master just wanted to of killed the doctor then he would of done on multiple occasions and while we don't know the reason for their split i'd say they're still the best of friends underneath it all and if the doctor was in trouble the master would rescue him if only as a bragging point
JohnnyForget
11-11-2014
Time Lords are asexual, and reproduce in a non-sexual way. (Can. Of. Worms. )

The Doctor never really got the hang of regeneration and never knew what he was going to get when he changed, but many Time Lords and Ladies (including Romana) could choose how their next incarnation looked. They could choose height, weight, hair colour, skin colour and many other physical characteristics. It would seem that they could also skin colour and gender too, although most appear to choose the same skin colour and the same gender of their preceding incarnation.
Granny McSmith
11-11-2014
Originally Posted by johnnysaucepn:
“Is there any evidence that Time Lords even marry?”

Didn't Clara say that the Doctor had been married four times?

I assume we saw one of those times in The Wedding of River Song, who the Doctor referred to later as his wife.

I've often said on here that the home life of the Timelords must be difficult, though. You go to bed with McGann (yum) and wake up with Eccleston (decidedly less yum*) much sadness ensues.

And you go to your Granny's for tea only to find she's now a teenager.**

*Only joking - I'm sure many find Eccleston very attractive.

** Actually, I'd quite like that....
James Frederick
11-11-2014
Originally Posted by Granny McSmith:
“And you go to your Granny's for tea only to find she's now a teenager.**”

That would be odd

But it is true A Time Lord/Lady could look decades younger than their great grandchild.
Koquillion
11-11-2014
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“That would be odd

But it is true A Time Lord/Lady could look decades younger than their great grandchild.”

Five Doctors, Susan meets Five...
James Frederick
11-11-2014
Originally Posted by Koquillion:
“Five Doctors, Susan meets Five...”

True

I would have liked Susan to have met 11 to really show how that can work though.
Koquillion
11-11-2014
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“True

I would have liked Susan to have met 11 to really show how that can work though.”

Well it was very deliberately skirted around by J-NT because of the issues it raises. Personally, I would love more than anything to see Susan return in, what would have to be, a very emotional episode. But I doubt it will happen for various reasons.

Anyway, back to the 'Will the Doctor ever marry a gay otter', or whatever it is being discussed...
JohnnyForget
11-11-2014
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“True

I would have liked Susan to have met 11 to really show how that can work though.”

Susan meets Eight in some Big Finish audios. Carole Ann Ford is a good twenty years (at least) older than Paul McGann, and yet in those audios she still refers to him as "Grandfather".
trollface
11-11-2014
10: "The Master...he just showed up again"
5: "Oh no. Does he still have that rubbish beard?"
10: "No, no beard this time. Well, a wife"
codename_47
11-11-2014
The Master has always fancied the doctor, lets face it
johnnysaucepn
12-11-2014
Originally Posted by Granny McSmith:
“Didn't Clara say that the Doctor had been married four times?”

Maybe, but not necessarily to Time Lords - or at least, it may be one of those customs he picked up from Earth, along with his dress sense and knowledge of pop culture.

Have we ever seen any Time Lords who have been engaged in any kind of romantic relationship before?
koantemplation
12-11-2014
Originally Posted by cpikey316_:
“Remember CE's doctor with Captain Jack.

That leads me to believe timelords dont see sexuality in the same way we do.”

Yes the Time Lords and Ladies are an evolved species, who although still warlike, are intelligent enough not to care about sexuality and gender unlike lesser species who worry about who has sex with whom.
Helbore
12-11-2014
Originally Posted by nanscombe:
“Imagine the outrage if someone admitted having sexual feelings towards their pet Iguana, but a Silurian ... not a problem.”

Not that big of a deal. An iguana is not sentient or capable of consent. A Silurian is an intelligent being; possibly mentally superior to us humans.

Some people are more attracted to a person's mind than their physical appearance. Consequently, an intelligent, sentient lizard might be more attractive than low-grade human trailer-trash.

Harsh, possibly; but only for those who rate lower than a lizard with greater brain power.
AdelaideGirl
12-11-2014
Originally Posted by johnnysaucepn:
“Maybe, but not necessarily to Time Lords - or at least, it may be one of those customs he picked up from Earth, along with his dress sense and knowledge of pop culture.

Have we ever seen any Time Lords who have been engaged in any kind of romantic relationship before?”

Well there is Susan's Grandmother and it is implied that his marriage to River was based on a Time Lord ceremony.
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