http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...ar-s-show.html
With the right Producers i could see that Happen. Thoughts ?
With the right Producers i could see that Happen. Thoughts ?
Brian Freidman:- Fleur East WILL break America
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Originally Posted by Barry_Clarke:
“http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...ar-s-show.html
With the right Producers i could see that Happen. Thoughts ?”
“http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...ar-s-show.html
With the right Producers i could see that Happen. Thoughts ?”
Its difficult because she is similar to Jahmene in the sense of she would fit more in with an American Audience. Jahmene had a sort of Gospel Singer quality and R'n'B women are going strong in the US.
However for Fleur the market is saturated with people who do a similar style so she will find it difficult.
I know Jahmene is working with US producers on a second album so hopefully she does get a shot but it will be difficult for her
Fleur is certainly talented and dedicated,and has as much a chance as any other talented artist, but someone who knows a great deal about dancing and no more than most about singing is bound to have a bias toward one of the best dancers the show has ever seen.
I don't think she would, don't see a space for her in the market... and thats cause I like her on the show
Originally Posted by felpcalibas:
“I don't think she would, don't see a space for her in the market... and thats cause I like her on the show”
“I don't think she would, don't see a space for her in the market... and thats cause I like her on the show”
its about making her a space in the market, getting that USO. A good singer, dancer and Rapper. That package doesn't come along very often. Janet and Ciara aren't on the scene atm, good chance for Fleur imo.
I am not sure Brian should go around saying things like this while he is working with all the contestants.
Originally Posted by ucra girl:
“I am not sure Brian should go around saying things like this while he is working with all the contestants.”
“I am not sure Brian should go around saying things like this while he is working with all the contestants.”
He has been too vocal since the beginning in my opinion.
Brian should shut his trap...lol...but the more they say about her, I think they are either setting her for a big fall from grace or they are trying to give her a boost since she is not doing well in the votes...
Oh please, every year we here all these things flying around about contestants who could break America. This is the 11th year of the show...we have seen so many acts over the years and the only ones to truly crack America are One Direction. Others have had a one hit wonder, but that's it. Fleur is nothing special in the grand scheme of things...there's people in the U.S that can do what she can, but far better.
Leona Lewis broke America... And little mix had a hit in the USA...and Ella Henderson's Ghost has just been released in America and just entered the charts...
It's more likely to be the Far East in the form of China coupled with budget deficit that will break America!
He mentioned Fleur because she is the only contestant this year that can justify his position, i.e. where his choreography is of any use (it hides the fact that she is an average singer).
Lola, Paul, Ben, Andrea are singers and don't need daft choreography to obscure a nice tone or a great voice.
Lauren needs a bit but she is not very good at it either.
Lola, Paul, Ben, Andrea are singers and don't need daft choreography to obscure a nice tone or a great voice.
Lauren needs a bit but she is not very good at it either.
I'm in the US, and I think she's right about Fleur, she does seem very marketable for the US. It all depends on marketing, but they do seem to market the X Factor singers well here. I've seen Ella Henderson on TV quite a bit the past couple of weeks, so if she's signed it's possible she'll do ok here..
Originally Posted by Barry_Clarke:
“http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...ar-s-show.html
With the right Producers i could see that Happen. Thoughts ?”
“http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...ar-s-show.html
With the right Producers i could see that Happen. Thoughts ?”
Simon has a lot of contacts in the US, so his influence will certainly be an advantage
Brian, from the article:
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“And he reckons Simon Cowell, who is mentoring The Overs, is bound to have most of his acts in the final.
'I think he (Simon) has a good chance of winning it with someone like Ben Haenow.
'He could definitely make the final. Andrea (Faustini) is a shoe-in for the final and Fleur. If I could call my top four it would be Fleur, Ben, Andrea and Only The Young.'
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“And he reckons Simon Cowell, who is mentoring The Overs, is bound to have most of his acts in the final.
'I think he (Simon) has a good chance of winning it with someone like Ben Haenow.
'He could definitely make the final. Andrea (Faustini) is a shoe-in for the final and Fleur. If I could call my top four it would be Fleur, Ben, Andrea and Only The Young.'
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I agree about Ben, Fleur and Andrea. I don't think Only The Young will make it to top 4.
Originally Posted by Kenneth_Chow:
“Leona Lewis broke America... And little mix had a hit in the USA...and Ella Henderson's Ghost has just been released in America and just entered the charts...”
“Leona Lewis broke America... And little mix had a hit in the USA...and Ella Henderson's Ghost has just been released in America and just entered the charts...”
Leona Lewis didn't crack America. She had one hit single over there (Bleeding Love) and a successful first album. Other than that, there hasn't really been anything. As for Ella, how can she have cracked America when she's only just released the song over there? My point is that this show ahs been on tv for 11 years...every year we get people coming out and saying so and so will crack America, but hardly anyone has done it. We've seen so many talented people on the show over 11 years, and only One Direction have managed to crack the U.S. It's ridiculous. With regards to Fleur, she's nothing special in the grand scheme of things...there's female's in the U.S who can do everything she can but a million times better.
Originally Posted by CARA2000:
“He mentioned Fleur because she is the only contestant this year that can justify his position, i.e. where his choreography is of any use (it hides the fact that she is an average singer).
Lola, Paul, Ben, Andrea are singers and don't need daft choreography to obscure a nice tone or a great voice.
Lauren needs a bit but she is not very good at it either.”
“He mentioned Fleur because she is the only contestant this year that can justify his position, i.e. where his choreography is of any use (it hides the fact that she is an average singer).
Lola, Paul, Ben, Andrea are singers and don't need daft choreography to obscure a nice tone or a great voice.
Lauren needs a bit but she is not very good at it either.”
Fleur doesn't dance in order to "hide the fact that she is an average singer". She dances (while sings) because she's able to. She's an all-rounder and has the most star potential. You say "daft choreography" - I doubt any of the other acts could pull what she did off with 'Thriller' and 'All About That Bass'. Like it or not, she's the closest this year to having "The X Factor".
Originally Posted by Master Ozzy:
“Leona Lewis didn't crack America. She had one hit single over there (Bleeding Love) and a successful first album. Other than that, there hasn't really been anything. As for Ella, how can she have cracked America when she's only just released the song over there? My point is that this show ahs been on tv for 11 years...every year we get people coming out and saying so and so will crack America, but hardly anyone has done it. We've seen so many talented people on the show over 11 years, and only One Direction have managed to crack the U.S. It's ridiculous. With regards to Fleur, she's nothing special in the grand scheme of things...there's female's in the U.S who can do everything she can but a million times better.”
“Leona Lewis didn't crack America. She had one hit single over there (Bleeding Love) and a successful first album. Other than that, there hasn't really been anything. As for Ella, how can she have cracked America when she's only just released the song over there? My point is that this show ahs been on tv for 11 years...every year we get people coming out and saying so and so will crack America, but hardly anyone has done it. We've seen so many talented people on the show over 11 years, and only One Direction have managed to crack the U.S. It's ridiculous. With regards to Fleur, she's nothing special in the grand scheme of things...there's female's in the U.S who can do everything she can but a million times better.”
Regardless of where she is in the US charts these days, Leona HAS broken through in America - in a time pre-Adele where it was difficult for British artists to catch a break. Even last year Leona had many high-profile TV/live music events where she was performing in the States. She might not be the huge star in America she was in 2008 but she's still a household name.
In America, some people know who Leona and 1D are. Others to a degree, but more in the bigger ,coastal cities and NY. There are a lot of people in the "heartland" who seem to not have heard a new song since the 70s and think country and classic rock are all that exist .
Originally Posted by abrightyz:
“has brian been smoking andrea's pasta? lolz”
“has brian been smoking andrea's pasta? lolz”
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Anyways, Cher Lloyd, Leona Lewis and One Direction in my opinion have broken America...
Originally Posted by Stube:
“Fleur doesn't dance in order to "hide the fact that she is an average singer". She dances (while sings) because she's able to. She's an all-rounder and has the most star potential. You say "daft choreography" - I doubt any of the other acts could pull what she did off with 'Thriller' and 'All About That Bass'. Like it or not, she's the closest this year to having "The X Factor".
Regardless of where she is in the US charts these days, Leona HAS broken through in America - in a time pre-Adele where it was difficult for British artists to catch a break. Even last year Leona had many high-profile TV/live music events where she was performing in the States. She might not be the huge star in America she was in 2008 but she's still a household name.”
“Fleur doesn't dance in order to "hide the fact that she is an average singer". She dances (while sings) because she's able to. She's an all-rounder and has the most star potential. You say "daft choreography" - I doubt any of the other acts could pull what she did off with 'Thriller' and 'All About That Bass'. Like it or not, she's the closest this year to having "The X Factor".
Regardless of where she is in the US charts these days, Leona HAS broken through in America - in a time pre-Adele where it was difficult for British artists to catch a break. Even last year Leona had many high-profile TV/live music events where she was performing in the States. She might not be the huge star in America she was in 2008 but she's still a household name.”
Sorry, but Leona Lewis is not a household name in America. She had one big hit single over there. Even if she was a household name (which she isn't), that means nothing when you're not releasing/selling music. As I've said, the show ahs been on for 11 years...we've seen roughly 150 acts in the live shows, some of which have been fantastic. Nobody has truly cracked America apart from One Direction. It's a ridiculous state of affairs. We hear the party line being toed every single year..."you'll sell records worldwide", "you'll be big in the U.S" etc. It's been said about so many acts...acts who have been far better then Fleur...Alexandra Burke and Rebecca Ferguson being two examples. Even if you're incredible, the issue is that you're signed to a god awful record label...Syco. They couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery. All they are good at is flash in the pan success in the UK.
Originally Posted by Master Ozzy:
“Sorry, but Leona Lewis is not a household name in America. She had one big hit single over there. Even if she was a household name (which she isn't), that means nothing when you're not releasing/selling music. As I've said, the show ahs been on for 11 years...we've seen roughly 150 acts in the live shows, some of which have been fantastic. Nobody has truly cracked America apart from One Direction. It's a ridiculous state of affairs. We hear the party line being toed every single year..."you'll sell records worldwide", "you'll be big in the U.S" etc. It's been said about so many acts...acts who have been far better then Fleur...Alexandra Burke and Rebecca Ferguson being two examples. Even if you're incredible, the issue is that you're signed to a god awful record label...Syco. They couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery. All they are good at is flash in the pan success in the UK.”
“Sorry, but Leona Lewis is not a household name in America. She had one big hit single over there. Even if she was a household name (which she isn't), that means nothing when you're not releasing/selling music. As I've said, the show ahs been on for 11 years...we've seen roughly 150 acts in the live shows, some of which have been fantastic. Nobody has truly cracked America apart from One Direction. It's a ridiculous state of affairs. We hear the party line being toed every single year..."you'll sell records worldwide", "you'll be big in the U.S" etc. It's been said about so many acts...acts who have been far better then Fleur...Alexandra Burke and Rebecca Ferguson being two examples. Even if you're incredible, the issue is that you're signed to a god awful record label...Syco. They couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery. All they are good at is flash in the pan success in the UK.”
She's had more than just one hit here... Thank you very much...you have too high of an expectation of breaking America... You don't need to be a huge star to break America... You really just have to be famous at one point to have broken America...and Leona Lewis did at one point sell worldwide...
Can possibly see her having one hit in America if they really plug her - but she really isn't a stand out talent. America has many females of her ilk who look good, can dance and sing far better. Shes no Beyoncé - that's for sure.
Originally Posted by Kenneth_Chow:
“She's had more than just one hit here... Thank you very much...you have too high of an expectation of breaking America... You don't need to be a huge star to break America... You really just have to be famous at one point to have broken America...and Leona Lewis did at one point sell worldwide...”
“She's had more than just one hit here... Thank you very much...you have too high of an expectation of breaking America... You don't need to be a huge star to break America... You really just have to be famous at one point to have broken America...and Leona Lewis did at one point sell worldwide...”
The definition of "breaking America" seems vague... Some people seem to think that having a successfull single is enough, for others it seems to be one successfull album & for others, it seems to be about having chart success for more than 1 album and get some actual name recognition in the US.
Some X factor acts have managed to have some measure of success in the US (Leona significantly more than LM or Cher LLoyd), but the only act that seems to have had "continued" success (as in a couple of successive successfull albums) seems to be 1D for now.
I hope Ella will do well, I loved her 1st single!
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