Genuine question. She has been pictured in a Poivre Blanc jacket and they are known to use real as well as synthetic fur. A quick google and I have found her name on lists of real fur-wearing celebrities but I don't know how reliable these lists are. You would think as a dog lover she would know that a lot of fur, even in Europe, comes from dogs.

Do ethics and principles affect how you vote? I know Steve's stand on things like the badger cull, or that guy allowing himself to be swallowed by a snake, make me feel a bit fuzzier and nicer towards him.

Pretty sure you'd find her pie cupboard is bare, so to speak.

Further googling finds her in a real fur-trimmed Moschino Cheap 'n' Chic outfit and a jacket by fur specialists Milusha.

It wouldn't matter to me if I were a professional judge at the World Ballroom Championships but as an armchair judge watching Strictly this is the kind of thing that alienates me from a celeb. I feel if I wouldn't be on their wavelength in real life then I could never vote for them on Strictly.

I once had a car with leather seats so I can hardly judge Pixie.

It changes my view on her for sure but it doesn't change my vote. I was already voting with the badgers

No idea why anyone would choose to wear animal fur, unless living in a part of the world where animals are the only resource. Was Pixie born in frozen tundra? Hope SB told her off. Then, he wears leather, which I wouldn't do so maybe I'll give one of my votes to Sunetra tomorrow. Bad Backshall

In answer to your question, ethics and beliefs affect how I vote. It would be almost impossible not to support and respect the guy or woman whose principles you share.

Is the snake guy going ahead?

ETA spot the Real Fur

Smh...

Yeah, I mean I wasn't really ever going to end up voting for her anyway but I was defrosting slightly. I'm not just singling out Pixie. It was a genuine question when I started the thread. I know there are lots of people who say 'It's a dance competition' but we are not being asked to be objective, impartial judges. It is just a Saturday night entertainment show. There were things about Gregg that meant I would never vote for him and there are aspects of Mark's personality coming out that I don't like. I guess it's a question of not wanting to reward someone you don't feel should be rewarded. Believe me, if things came out about my favourites I would go off them too. If you are not a paid, professional judge then it's hard to vote for someone you don't empathise with or respect.

I'm glad I grew up in a time when the pop stars, even the most lightweight ones, were a bit more relatable and political. I guess that's why I'm surprised a lot of young musicians and actors these days seem less progressive and more superficial. You could have gone to the pub with Bananarama!

So, if a celeb on Strictly turns out to have a worldview opposed to yours it doesn't affect how you feel about them? I'm not saying this means people shouldn't vote for Pixie, I'm saying this means I couldn't vote for Pixie. If Steve or Sunetra said homosexuality causes floods I wouldn't vote for them either. If Judy poisoned kittens and made taxidermic dioramas with them I wouldn't vote for her.

I'm often (too) likely to defend unlikeable characters, or to try harder to find the reasons to like them, in a restoring-the-balance kind of way, but on the big central things that matter most to me, I have to let core beliefs win through. But there again I'm a bit woolly. Finding the positive reason to support someone has more sway than discovering a negative one. Eg I voted once or twice for Johnny Ball despite his anti-climate change stance but it just isn't in me not to support Backshall, be he ever so crap at dancing, because of what he stands for. I celebrate his small deviations from crapness & admire the spirit

But then in previous years there hasn't really been anyone to respect like that and I've tended to follow the golden rule that whoever keeps Pasha in the comp longest is best. A fine principled outlook

Oh until developing a huge girl crush on Anya last year

I bet she was well jell when Judy got to be Cruella de Vil. No wonder those poor dalmatians looked terrified.

I wear leather shoes, have a leather coat and eat meat. And when I worked in the Arctic circle many moons ago, wore fur, bought from the Inuits.I'm hardly in a position to judge her.

How strange. You really don't like her do you ? It's like you've sat there thinking I'm fed up of Pixie and her gaining popularity - I'll see if I can find something bad about her and post it on the SCD forum !! It may not be accurate or reliable, and you don't even know if she's a dog lover ! Steve probably wears leather shoes and eats meat even though he's an animal lover !

Quite. The levels of animal suffering involved in fur farming are no worse (and often a great deal less) than in the factory farming and slaughter of animals for food and indeed the whole process of milk production. Yet very few of us are vegan and no one is suggesting we shouldn't vote for a celeb because she eats meat. I'm afraid I suspect the vitriol directed at fur wearers is motivated by more than animal welfare issues.

May I make it clear, I hate all forms of animal suffering but the reality is that while I continue to eat meat, wear leather, drink cappuccinos etc it is illogical to condemn someone for wearing fur.

This is a personality driven show. It makes perfect sense to spin for and against for those that are fans of particular celebs. That's what the show is about.

Not the same thing. I wear leather, eat meat, e.t.c. but then the whole animal is used - hide for leather, meat for food, bones for glue and fertilizer, blood and hooves for fertilizer and so on. I have no objection to that and I'm of the school that believes that you need to eat animal protein to stay healthy.

Nowadays fake fur is so realistic that there's no need to use real fur. Imitation leather hasn't yet been made to behave like real leather and I have problem feet and can only wear foot-encasing leather shoes - can't even wear fabric slippers.

Many fur items used to be made from rabbit (cony/coney) and for me that was fine while we ate rabbit, but not many eat rabbit nowadays and I object strongly to fur items made either from animals where the rest of it is just discarded or anything made from wild animals because they are satisfying a want, not a need..

I'm sure fans of other celebs are getting worried about how good the young beautiful and talented Pixie is doing. Rightly so. She is amazing

Leather is taken from cows after they have been killed, fur is taken from the animal while it is still alive. Leather is seen as a by-product of the meat industry, while fur is seen as unnecessary slaughter of animals, usually cats and dogs. That is presumably why many people are OK wearing leather, but not real fur.
I'm sure if most celebrities knew who fur coats were produced, they would not wear real fur.

Oh that's a bit disappointing. To be fair to her Pixie doesn't strike me as the sharpest knife in the drawer. If she were better informed/more with it generally I'd like to think she would reconsider.

She was never a favourite of mine (Team Hitler Youth and all that) but finding out she wears fur has made me lose respect for her. Aren't people's views and actions how we discover if we like them or not? I'm not really one for the postmodern world of everything being relative, all viewpoints carrying equal weight, and there being no judgements, only arguments. I do make judgements based on people's behaviours and values. There are people out there (sportspeople, musicians, actors) whom I feel I don't support because of things they've said and done. If Pixie endorses the fur trade then I don't like her because I don't like seals being clubbed over the head and dogs being skinned alive (and an awful lot of fur labelled as other animals turns out to come from dogs being skinned alive). I prefer people with different principles. I couldn't support Gregg because of his sexism.

I wasn't seeking out dirt on her. I was looking at an article about the celebs in Blackpool and it brought attention to the fur on her jacket. I then looked into it because it seemed so at odds with the kind of young, British pop starlets who were popular when I was growing up and I had kind of assumed that Pixie would be anti-fur.

Fur can be taken from animals when alive but I doubt very much that the majority of fur sold is produced that way, scare story by the animal right terrorists probably.

I live in fear <possible slight over exageration alert> of one of my favourite celebs ever agreeing to go on Strictly because while I have no objection of people I've no feeling about one way or the other going on and making me think huuumm I'd hate to have to rethink some long held views

I was disappointed when my beloved Aljaz said his favourite food was sausages. If he was a vegan I would adore him.

do we think she is actually 'pro' fur though, or just may be guilty of not noticing something. many young people today probably couldn't tell the difference between fake and real, and might make assumptions. i mean, presumably, she didn't skin it herself?

One of the problems with the internet is it's too easy to google people you admire. Richard Feynman and buying women sandwiches comes to mind.

Pixie's Arosa Jacket from Milusha is made with fox fur. I love foxes.