I think they are very similar and appeal to the same people and have the same attitude IMO
Does anyone else think Ben Haenow is like Steve Brookstein 2.0
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He's definitely majorly overrated for what he is, although Steve Brookstein 2.0 might be a bit far.
There are very few interesting acts this year in general, sadly.
There are very few interesting acts this year in general, sadly.
Not in the slightest. He's got a great voice and a great tone and a good image.
The one problem is his performance when he's not doing rock. He might as well be wondering what he's going to have for tea for all the emotion in his face.
The one problem is his performance when he's not doing rock. He might as well be wondering what he's going to have for tea for all the emotion in his face.
Originally Posted by TammyTam:
“He's definitely majorly overrated for what he is, although Steve Brookstein 2.0 might be a bit far.
There are very few interesting acts this year in general, sadly.”
“He's definitely majorly overrated for what he is, although Steve Brookstein 2.0 might be a bit far.
There are very few interesting acts this year in general, sadly.”
I do miss the theatricality and voices of certain past contestants...Nothing grabs me this year (or last)
Not at all but then I think Steve was better than the bad press he's had.
Absolutely loved Ben tonight and couldn't see what the judges were saying at all
Absolutely loved Ben tonight and couldn't see what the judges were saying at all
Originally Posted by TheGraduate2012:
“No, what an insult. Although he is hard to place, like a mix of Olly and Matt Cardle. But better.”
“No, what an insult. Although he is hard to place, like a mix of Olly and Matt Cardle. But better.”
He's nowhere near Olly's level, are you mad?
Originally Posted by TheGraduate2012:
“No, what an insult. Although he is hard to place, like a mix of Olly and Matt Cardle. But better.”
“No, what an insult. Although he is hard to place, like a mix of Olly and Matt Cardle. But better.”
Ben is far better than the mockney and the dullard.
People moaning that he should sing rock this is big band week at least he sang a big band song unlike some other contestants and sang it great
Originally Posted by TammyTam:
“He's nowhere near Olly's level, are you mad?”
“He's nowhere near Olly's level, are you mad?”
No you are clearly. I like Olly but Ben surpasses him vocally by a mile.
Well he has a great voice as does Steve but I'd compare him more with Shayne Ward tbh. I love him anyway 
Originally Posted by TheGraduate2012:
“No you are clearly. I like Olly but Ben surpasses him vocally by a mile.”
“No you are clearly. I like Olly but Ben surpasses him vocally by a mile.”
Oh technically he's far superior. Olly was a much better performer though, it has to be said. I really want to boot Ben up the arse, cos the blank face thing is killing me.
Originally Posted by _Zd_Phoenix_:
“Oh technically he's far superior. Olly was a much better performer though, it has to be said. I really want to boot Ben up the arse, cos the blank face thing is killing me.”
“Oh technically he's far superior. Olly was a much better performer though, it has to be said. I really want to boot Ben up the arse, cos the blank face thing is killing me.”
Exactly, Olly was far more interesting a contestant.
Vocals aren't everything. In the real world, you don't necessarily need the best vocals to succeed, but you do need some form of charisma, and if people are comparing Ben to Steve Brookstein, he evidently is lacking it.
Originally Posted by Blondie X:
“Completely off topic but OMG he looked hot tonight”
“Completely off topic but OMG he looked hot tonight”
For me he is always hot but especially today its the suit and his eyes.
Originally Posted by TammyTam:
“Exactly, Olly was far more interesting a contestant.
Vocals aren't everything. In the real world, you don't necessarily need the best vocals to succeed, but you do need some form of charisma, and if people are comparing Ben to Steve Brookstein, he evidently is lacking it.”
“Exactly, Olly was far more interesting a contestant.
Vocals aren't everything. In the real world, you don't necessarily need the best vocals to succeed, but you do need some form of charisma, and if people are comparing Ben to Steve Brookstein, he evidently is lacking it.”
That's why taste is so subjective as I can not and never could see anything interesting or charismatic about Olly Murs. Possibly my most disliked XF contestant of all time and the one whose popularity still bemuses me to this day
Originally Posted by Blondie X:
“That's why taste is so subjective as I can not and never could see anything interesting or charismatic about Olly Murs. Possibly my most disliked XF contestant of all time and the one whose popularity still bemuses me to this day”
“That's why taste is so subjective as I can not and never could see anything interesting or charismatic about Olly Murs. Possibly my most disliked XF contestant of all time and the one whose popularity still bemuses me to this day”
Even after his stint on The Xtra Factor?
Originally Posted by _Zd_Phoenix_:
“Oh technically he's far superior. Olly was a much better performer though, it has to be said. I really want to boot Ben up the arse, cos the blank face thing is killing me.”
“Oh technically he's far superior. Olly was a much better performer though, it has to be said. I really want to boot Ben up the arse, cos the blank face thing is killing me.”
Yeah which is why I said he was a mix. He's not exactly like any previous contestant really. Olly has to perform because he's a pretty average singer. Ben can learn to perform in time.
Originally Posted by Blondie X:
“Ben is far better than the mockney and the dullard.”
“Ben is far better than the mockney and the dullard.”
Agreed.
Reason I said he was better. WAY better! Although I do like Olly.
Originally Posted by TammyTam:
“Exactly, Olly was far more interesting a contestant.
Vocals aren't everything. In the real world, you don't necessarily need the best vocals to succeed, but you do need some form of charisma, and if people are comparing Ben to Steve Brookstein, he evidently is lacking it.”
“Exactly, Olly was far more interesting a contestant.
Vocals aren't everything. In the real world, you don't necessarily need the best vocals to succeed, but you do need some form of charisma, and if people are comparing Ben to Steve Brookstein, he evidently is lacking it.”
It's very true, vocals are far from everything.
Ben's tone + image should mean he's easily bankable and, to be fair, before the lives he was much better. But except for the couple of the weeks where the theme has suited him, I've felt the performance was seriously lacking. He'll probably make the final still, but you don't win by sleepwalking it and he's risking a shock exit.
Originally Posted by TheGraduate2012:
“Yeah which is why I said he was a mix. He's not exactly like any previous contestant really. Olly has to perform because he's a pretty average singer. Ben can learn to perform in time.”
“Yeah which is why I said he was a mix. He's not exactly like any previous contestant really. Olly has to perform because he's a pretty average singer. Ben can learn to perform in time.”
I think Olly's better than your average X-Factor fair (again an interesting tone which has served him well), but yes, he did rely more on performance and likeability.
The problem is, Ben's lack of connection is off-putting. I worry for him carrying on like this, because there's no excuse for it.
Originally Posted by Blondie X:
“That's why taste is so subjective as I can not and never could see anything interesting or charismatic about Olly Murs. Possibly my most disliked XF contestant of all time and the one whose popularity still bemuses me to this day”
“That's why taste is so subjective as I can not and never could see anything interesting or charismatic about Olly Murs. Possibly my most disliked XF contestant of all time and the one whose popularity still bemuses me to this day”
I'm with you on this. Ooh and they've just said his name. He's performing tomorrow night. I'll be switching over.
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