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Does anyone else think that Osgoode actually isn't dead
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johnnysaucepn
18-11-2014
Originally Posted by TerraCanis:
“The possibility of Zygon-Osgood might yet be invoked - but the Osgood we saw used her inhaler, which would suggest that the Osgood who died was the human one.”

Unfortunately not enough to rule it out - in Day of the Doctor, the Zygon had to steal Osgood's inhaler because it got a body "with defects".
scottishjames
18-11-2014
Nothing rules out that the Osgood who was in the break-out scene was the Zygon copycat, and as said she was 'more useful... alive than dead' allows via means of a teleporter a future sidekick for Michelle Gomez, and simultaneous true Osgood becoming a companion.
Torry_Z
18-11-2014
Except if she was a Zygon Her glasses wouldn't have been real... "If I'm a Zygon that means my clothes are Zygon... What happens if I lose a shoe?"
Tom Tit
18-11-2014
I think that having a character created as a fan-cypher for an anniversary episode as the companion would be an absolutely terrible move. Far too self-referential.

All characters aren't created equally. They are there to get a particular reaction from the audience and Moffat seems to have successfully gotten the reaction he wants with this one. Its true that he tends to have a predilection for bringing characters back but I think in this instance that won't be the case. I certainly hope so.
Bob_1971
19-11-2014
Originally Posted by AllKath:
“However I am also aware of these facts too.
Moffatt lies.
Moffat adds things into episodes to deliberatley mis-direct the audience and most are dropped without trace.
He adds things that are not relevant for many episodes – even series to come.”

And... the fans have a habit of overestimating what Moffatt is capable of, and over analysing every minute detail.

After pages and pages of in depth analysis on this forum, I'm still waiting for the big reveal of Amy Pond's house being a Tardis because of the chimney pot's shape...
platelet
19-11-2014
Originally Posted by TerraCanis:
“... which is exactly what raises my hackles whenever anyone comes out with stuff like "there are no rules in fantasy" "there's no reason it can't happen" or "this is science fiction so anything can happen". Bringing people back from the dead at the drop of a hat kills drama.”

And Moffat ackowledged this earlier this year when he said they wanted to reintroduce consequences and have people they killed stay dead.

Osgoode's death served to show what a bunny boiler the Mistress was. Whilst the Master/Mistress will obviously return at some point, Osgoode won't be.

Nether will this version of the tin dog. He's had his day.
Thrombin
19-11-2014
Originally Posted by platelet:
“Nether will this version of the tin dog. He's had his day.”

Of course there is still the first version of K9 who left with Leela when she chose to stay on Gallifrey and the version of K9 who left with Romana.

I believe Big Finish killed off one of them in the Gallifrey series but, whether you use Big Finish or TV continuity there is still at least one K9 on Gallifrey currently
platelet
19-11-2014
Originally Posted by Thrombin:
“Of course there is still the first version of K9 who left with Leela when she chose to stay on Gallifrey and the version of K9 who left with Romana.

I believe Big Finish killed off one of them in the Gallifrey series but, whether you use Big Finish or TV continuity there is still at least one K9 on Gallifrey currently ”

Yeah, it was just Danny I was referring to
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