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What did Kirkwood mean when he said...
When asked about Danny and Sam's exit:
"My job would be so much easier if all that mattered was what was on screen. Lizzie and Stephen were fantastic on screen but sometimes you have to make horrible decisions for any number of backstage reasons. " Am I being stupid? Feel like there was more to it. |
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There's definitely more to it. Perhaps he sacked them because he disliked them. It's just like the way he sacked Devon Anderson from Hollyoaks and then from Eastenders.
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maybe they stood up and told him he didnt have a clue what he was doing...
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Could be a combo of things. Perhaps they didn't like each other? We'll never know.
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conspiracy theory ....
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Could be a combo of things. Perhaps they didn't like each other? We'll never know.
It interests me when people leave and we're not sure why. |
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Those lines confused me as well maybe we will find out in five years time when someone does an interview and mentions that BK hated Lizzie and Stephen.
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Lizzie was clearly annoyed at being sacked. You could tell at the time she was holding back on revealing something. Maybe if someone directs her to those comments she might break her silence.
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I know this is very lazy and I could google but who are lizzie and Stephen? Character wise?
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I know this is very lazy and I could google but who are lizzie and Stephen? Character wise?
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It reads like an attempt to slur the actors who played Sam and Danny. There were some kind of "problems" behind the scenes, he implies.
But Kirkwood just ends up making himself look like a really unlikable dick. Looks like he fired them because he didn't like them. And yes, could well be because they're more experienced actors who could easily see that his "make-it-up-as-you-go-along" storylines were laughable. Seems like the only way to get on at Hollyoaks is do what Brian tells you and keep your gob shut, unless you open it to flatter him. |
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It reads like an attempt to slur the actors who played Sam and Danny. There were some kind of "problems" behind the scenes, he implies.
But Kirkwood just ends up making himself look like a really unlikable dick. Looks like he fired them because he didn't like them. And yes, could well be because they're more experienced actors who could easily see that his "make-it-up-as-you-go-along" storylines were laughable. Seems like the only way to get on at Hollyoaks is do what Brian tells you and keep your gob shut, unless you open it to flatter him. Every time an interview with Kirkwood appears he sullies my opinion of him further; so egotistical and out of touch with viewers. It is insulting to the many long term viewers here who have stuck by the show through thick and thin to insinuate that our opinions are both wrong and don't matter because apparently Twitter loves the show. He is also completely deluded - saying that the show has been missing a nuclear family unit for quite some time. Although flawed the Lomaxes were a wonderful family unit but he let his own ego get in the way of that. |
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Exactly this.
Every time an interview with Kirkwood appears he sullies my opinion of him further; so egotistical and out of touch with viewers. It is insulting to the many long term viewers here who have stuck by the show through thick and thin to insinuate that our opinions are both wrong and don't matter because apparently Twitter loves the show. He is also completely deluded - saying that the show has been missing a nuclear family unit for quite some time. Although flawed the Lomaxes were a wonderful family unit but he let his own ego get in the way of that. Anyway, meh, he can clearly do what he likes. I don't have to read anything he says in future. |
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What made me laugh was when he talked about after Sam and Danny died that they were some of the best episode's, a week later it was all forgotten about and you wouldn't have known they had lost their mum and dad.
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Oh, no, a Party of Five reference!
This brings back nightmares of the time Susan Bower quoted Party of Five when she was systematically destroying Neighbours! (In fact, there are some similarities between these two with the answers they give, and how they come across in interviews...)On the subject of Sam & Danny, it certainly reads like it was a personal decision to fire them, and not in the regular backstage drama variety of not getting along with each other, or other cast members, but literally not getting on with him. It's a shame, b/c Lizzie who played Sam seemed to enjoy her time on the show, and was nothing but enthusiastic about playing a cop. But, then Sam randomly was revealed to be a bent cop, and it all went downhill from there. I'm wondering if she didn't like that twist and called him out on it... |
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It does appear that this man has one almighty ego. I echo the comments that someone should tweet the interview to Lizzie and Stephen. They have a right to respond here.
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I don't get why everyone is automatically saying that Brian Kirkwood did something wrong. It is very possible that Stephan and/ or Lizzie were difficult to work with or couldn't do as much filming or had disobeyed the studio rules or something like that.
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I don't get why everyone is automatically saying that Brian Kirkwood did something wrong. It is very possible that Stephan and/ or Lizzie were difficult to work with or couldn't do as much filming or had disobeyed the studio rules or something like that.
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As someone who has a mutual acquaintance that knows Kirkwood fairly well, let's just say it wouldn't surprise me one iota if he himself was the 'backstage issue'.
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As someone who has a mutual acquaintance that knows Kirkwood fairly well, let's just say it wouldn't surprise me one iota if he himself was the 'backstage issue'.
The DS questions had been put through a heavy-duty anti-criticism filter, and a very softly-softly, flattering approach taken, to give him every opportunity to reflect himself and his show in a rose-tinted glow. Yet somehow, he still manages to create an almost universally-received impression of being a massively egotistical bell-end.
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Kirkwood does come across really badly. He didn't come across like this in his first stint. Maybe he's one of those who is okay when he's getting praise but a taste of negativity (EE and his 2nd Hollyoaks stint) and the arrogance and ego comes out.
What is on screen should be the most important thing. If Danny and Sam were so 'fantastic' (and I agree with him, they were) why did he get rid of them? He seems to make decisions on a whim based on ideas that pop into his head. When I first read the interview it sounded like he just got rid so he could play out his stupid party of five scenario, but reading again it does seem as though he is implying issues with Lizzie and Stephen. His ego knows no bounds. The way he refers to Hollyoaks as his show, in the context of someone else working on it when he wasn't even there, is mind-boggling. |
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Kirkwood does come across really badly. He didn't come across like this in his first stint. Maybe he's one of those who is okay when he's getting praise but a taste of negativity (EE and his 2nd Hollyoaks stint) and the arrogance and ego comes out.
I wonder if he vetted the questions first and would only answer what he was happy with? |
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Sorry to bump the thread but Stephen Billington's (Danny) response to a fan on Twitter tonight may be of interest to some on here!
https://twitter.com/stephbillington/...40995877445633 There was also a tweet about the show being under pressure from C4 and having a complete lack of respect for the actors but it seems to have been deleted now. |
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Sorry to bump the thread but Stephen Billington's (Danny) response to a fan on Twitter tonight may be of interest to some on here!
https://twitter.com/stephbillington/...40995877445633 There was also a tweet about the show being under pressure from C4 and having a complete lack of respect for the actors but it seems to have been deleted now. Regarding Stephen's tweet about 'personality disorder' it's sad, but true. Seems that the 'perfect family' of Leela, Cameron and Peri is another veiled barb at Stephen and Lizzie and the 'backstage decisions' or whatever Kirkwood said. Peri calling Cameron 'Dad' is ridiculous. |
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He is correct and that is not how it should be if characters are not consistent then what is the point, BK seems to have no respect for his actors or his viewers, it will kill the show in the end.
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This brings back nightmares of the time Susan Bower quoted Party of Five when she was systematically destroying Neighbours! (In fact, there are some similarities between these two with the answers they give, and how they come across in interviews...)