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daisydee
17-11-2014
Originally Posted by Pet Monkey:
“...and yet... When Zoe stepped in for Claudia and was nervous at first, didn't you feel how Tess stepped forward to make things all right until Zoe got into it? Tess is a good woman. She's a facilitator. That's the worst I'd say of her. She helps others to do their thing. I like her more than most of you, I guess. She's not dazzling but low-key and good at heart”

Very well put PM, I have often thought this but couldn't put it as succinctly as you have. Tess was a great prop for Brucie, and much as I loved him (warts & all) he had a great ally in Tess who was there to catch him if he should fall.
Nevertheless, I still feel there is something missing in the Presenting Team - kills me to say it, but it needs a man.
Bonnie Scotland
17-11-2014
I don't mind tess and yes i'm about to type this ...

i wouldn't have minded seeing tess paired with ...

are you ready for this ..

vernon and no i'm not joking!
RoseAnne
17-11-2014
Originally Posted by Mr_Eye:
“Tess is useless, they may as well have a lump of ice presenting the show. However she won't be sacked, as the BBC is now terrified of firing women over 40.”

Charming. Never fails to amaze me how rude some people are on this forum.
henrywilliams58
17-11-2014
Originally Posted by Janet43:
“She isn't unemployed during the period you mention - she often appears on other TV shows (obviously not ones you watch) and she's written and had published two novels since 2011.”

Are you sure? Or has somebody else written them and published under her name?
lundavra
17-11-2014
Originally Posted by henrywilliams58:
“Are you sure? Or has somebody else written them and published under her name?”

No idea but writing a book is hardly rocket science so quite possible she did it herself. Women have been known to write books.
broadshoulder
17-11-2014
Originally Posted by Mr_Eye:
“Tess is useless, they may as well have a lump of ice presenting the show. However she won't be sacked, as the BBC is now terrified of firing women over 40.”

Very true.

She does need someone to bounce off the judges, She's so inept.
thenetworkbabe
18-11-2014
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“I don't think Tess is the best presenter in the world, but I think she does a good job in Bruce's old role.

It's not fair to compare Zoe and Tess over the last few weeks because 99.9% of everything Tess says and does is scripted (as is usual in this type of show) and Zoe standing in for Claudia had far more chance to ad lib and seem more natural. Maybe people forget that throughout the show, Tess has the producers speaking to her through her earpiece to keep it all on track. Bruce refused to wear one and Tess had to keep him on track too!

Together I think Tess and Claudia are great, with Tess developing into Claudia's straight (wo)man, plus they have always been part of the show.

I also think it's better the devil you know because you can bet your life if the BBC bring someone in to replace Tess, it won't be any of the popular suggestions we see on here.

I've said some of this before as it seems we get a new thread ever week, so apologies for repeating myself (and I know my view isn't popular).”

Tess is fine. She does what she has to - which is to introduce whats happening next, add any jokes they write for her, act when something untowards happens, chide the judges if they are mean , and most importantly keep the show running to time. She's also doing a good job pointing out who is good. People may not like aspects of the role, but its what the role now is- and she's doing it well. The show would be drastically changed without the jokes, and the role of Bruce, and now Tess, in challenging the judges, has become important in containing the anti-judge vote. Pointing out who is good shouldn't be necessary, but many voters otherwise fail to see the obvious, and its become an important role for the compere to provide another perspective - in case the judges are being ignored again.

Zoe is doing well what Claudia can't do - which is to ask relevant questions., listen to people's answers , and not go off on incomprehensible, rambling, tangents, or ask awkward questions that leave the poor celebrities wondering if they heard right. .Unlike Claudia, who belongs on edited shows late at night, Zoe benefits from being even more experienced than Tess at keeping live TV moving on time. She's also got lots of experience in keeping things clear, and to the point - whether the audience is BBC radio listeners, ITT viewers, or kids watching Childrens tTV.
piimapoika
18-11-2014
I have always liked Tess. I have never taken to Claudia with her "I'm too grand for this rubbish" attitude. Remember when she mucked things up and larked about when Len was trying to show her perfectly simple dance steps? Replace her permanently with Zoe I say. And if Zoe doesn't want to do it 7 days a week (and who does?) bring in Sara Cox.
Venetian
18-11-2014
Originally Posted by piimapoika:
“I have always liked Tess. I have never taken to Claudia with her "I'm too grand for this rubbish" attitude. Remember when she mucked things up and larked about when Len was trying to show her perfectly simple dance steps? Replace her permanently with Zoe I say. And if Zoe doesn't want to do it 7 days a week (and who does?) bring in Sara Cox.”

I like Tess, Claudia and Zoe, it can be possible. Yes Tess can be irritating with her "oh look, you've got a standing oavation .. " firstly because I think we've noticed this anyway and, secondly probably most of the audience are standing up because the people in front of them are standing up and they can't see anything!

Zoe works [on Strictly] four days a week: Monday, Wednesday and Friday on ITT and for a very long day every Saturday. I would love to do her job for eight days a week if they'd have me
Janet43
18-11-2014
If you go by posts on this forum (which isn't a reflection of the majority of people in this country, but only of the minority of people who post on public forums) everyone who has ever appeared on a TV show is useless and needs replacing because, in the poster's opinion, someone else could do it better. Most saying this are people who would never stand up in front of an audience, let alone knowing that millions are watching you on TV, and only their opinion is the right one, and lately some posters are becoming more and more abusive in their criticisms.

Tess, Claudia and Zoe have taken over from someone who many didn't like and who'd had years of experience and still could make a hash of it . IMO all three are all doing a great job and they're doing what the producers have asked them to do, not what some members of the public have said they should do.
Janet43
18-11-2014
Originally Posted by henrywilliams58:
“Are you sure? Or has somebody else written them and published under her name?”

So you're saying she's lying. Nice.

My point was that she isn't unemployed when Strictly isn't airing - regardless of writing books, she often appears on other TV shows. She's also been in TV ads (just as some of the high profile entertainers are) and probably does some modelling as well.

Just because the person who made the comment about her being unemployed isn't with her 24/7, doesn't mean she isn't doing other things.
inothernews
18-11-2014
Originally Posted by Janet43:
“She isn't unemployed during the period you mention - she often appears on other TV shows (obviously not ones you watch) and she's written and had published two novels since 2011.”

Out of interest- How does writing two books make her more qualified to present Strictly Come Dancing?
TerryM22
18-11-2014
Originally Posted by inothernews:
“Out of interest- How does writing two books make her more qualified to present Strictly Come Dancing?”

That is a good question.
Janet43
18-11-2014
Originally Posted by inothernews:
“Out of interest- How does writing two books make her more qualified to present Strictly Come Dancing?”

It doesn't - just shows that, alongside being in adverts and other TV shows, she's not unemployed while Strictly isn't on air as has been suggested. Being a song and dance man doesn't qualify someone for a presenter's job either. The previous presenter was a music hall act who was allowed to present and then made it his main job. Tess did an apprenticeship alongside that song and dance man for 10 series. That qualifies her, and she's improved on it.
komentaightor
18-11-2014
Originally Posted by Stupid_Head:
“I think she's ok but there is a reason she is unemployed from January to October every year. She must be the only high profile presenter to have one job.”

I guess you don't regard modelling as a job, then.
So that means Kate Moss and Naomi Campbell are also on the dole!!
MayD
18-11-2014
Originally Posted by Janet43:
“It doesn't - just shows that, alongside being in adverts and other TV shows, she's not unemployed while Strictly isn't on air as has been suggested. Being a song and dance man doesn't qualify someone for a presenter's job either. The previous presenter was a music hall act who was allowed to present and then made it his main job. Tess did an apprenticeship alongside that song and dance man for 10 series. That qualifies her, and she's improved on it.”

Judy did a few dances alongside Anton but that did not make her a dancer. Being BFF's wing woman does not and did not make Tess a presenter.
komentaightor
18-11-2014
Originally Posted by Glitter Belle:
“The more they appear together, Tess and Zoe seem to contrast well.”

I enjoy the shows with the two dizzy blondes presenting together. They do an "Ant and Dec" very well. The show benefits from the wonderful freedom of not having any useless living legends littering the set.

Oh the tiresome commenters who don't like Tess / can't get on with her.

Are you really unaware of a vast section of viewing public who would not tolerate any presenters who were not dumbed down? I cringe when I see the talented (and very intelligent) Paul Armstrong chained to the dreadful show "Pointless", reading out the same phrases on the autocue week after week. Like watching a caged tiger prowling a cage unable to escape.

Tess, Claudia and Zoe are happy to send themselves and the show up while presenting. They are probably forced by the producers to be a bit foolish, all the "jokes" are scripted but nobody waits for non-existent applause.

I like this show as it is - a lot of sweat and tears and good dancing contrasted with a bit of silliness from the presenters as sets are being changed or marks being taken from the judges, whose comments often outdo the autocue in silliness, but nobody has chosen to remark on this.

and may Series 13, 14, 15 be more of the same!! No more male presenter - ever - please! If you want more dignity in the presenting corner, bring back Angela Rippon.
daisydee
18-11-2014
Originally Posted by MayD:
“Judy did a few dances alongside Anton but that did not make her a dancer. Being BFF's wing woman does not and did not make Tess a presenter. ”

Actually it did - she did a long apprenticeship, to compare that experience to Judy's few weeks of dancing is really rather silly.
MayD
18-11-2014
Originally Posted by daisydee:
“Actually it did - she did a long apprenticeship, to compare that experience to Judy's few weeks of dancing is really rather silly.”

Not silly at all and I think you miss my point. Just because she was conjoined to BFF would not have meant that she was going to turn into a good presenter purely by association. Quite clearly it didn't. She got the job title of presenter but her skill and ability at doing it is seriously questioned by many. And rightly so imvho
daisydee
18-11-2014
Originally Posted by MayD:
“Not silly at all and I think you miss my point. Just because she was conjoined to BFF would not have meant that she was going to turn into a good presenter purely by association. Quite clearly it didn't. She got the job title of presenter but her skill and ability at doing it is seriously questioned by many. And rightly so imvho”

In YOUR opinion. And the comparison WAS silly.
tonycollins100
18-11-2014
Tess may be a bit bland, but the show really paces along with her and Claudia presenting. I find Zoe to be a bit too hyper most of the time, whilst she has some of Claudia's wit, she doesn't have the confidence to SLOW DOWN!
I agree that Tess helped her in the first show, which illustrates that she is not without professionalism - even talent. I think her role restricts her a bit so I wish that she could extract herself from the Bruce straitjacket that she finds herself trapped in.

It is such a pity that Claudia's daughter had that accident for many reasons, one of the minor ones is that we saw a potentially very good team broken up just as it was getting into it's stride.
BuddyBontheNet
18-11-2014
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Tess is fine. She does what she has to - which is to introduce whats happening next, add any jokes they write for her, act when something untowards happens, chide the judges if they are mean , and most importantly keep the show running to time. She's also doing a good job pointing out who is good. People may not like aspects of the role, but its what the role now is- and she's doing it well. The show would be drastically changed without the jokes, and the role of Bruce, and now Tess, in challenging the judges, has become important in containing the anti-judge vote. Pointing out who is good shouldn't be necessary, but many voters otherwise fail to see the obvious, and its become an important role for the compere to provide another perspective - in case the judges are being ignored again.

Zoe is doing well what Claudia can't do - which is to ask relevant questions., listen to people's answers , and not go off on incomprehensible, rambling, tangents, or ask awkward questions that leave the poor celebrities wondering if they heard right. .Unlike Claudia, who belongs on edited shows late at night, Zoe benefits from being even more experienced than Tess at keeping live TV moving on time. She's also got lots of experience in keeping things clear, and to the point - whether the audience is BBC radio listeners, ITT viewers, or kids watching Childrens tTV.”

I'm not sure if you're agreeing with me that Tess is fine or have rad something in my post that means I think otherwise, so just to be clear I want Tess to stay. The second part of your post we're not in agreement about because Claudia did a damn good job of presenting ITT every night when the whole show was live, not partly live as it is now. I don't agree with your description of Zoe at all. I don't mind her, but she is definitely in third place for me. My biggest problem is she speaks far too quickly (not a problem for me, but an opinion often mentioned to me) and she's often only half listening to what the other person is saying. I don't know if she still does it, but she used to stand in for Ken Bruce on R2 and I once heard a Pop Master contestant say he was glad it was Ken doing the quix that day because the last time he was on Zoe was very rude and off hand towards him - an oh sh!t! Zoe is fine standing in for Claudia and presenting ITT.
henrywilliams58
18-11-2014
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“No idea but writing a book is hardly rocket science so quite possible she did it herself. Women have been known to write books.”

As it happens one of my nieces is a rocket scientist. - and she writes her own work. I'd be very surprised if Tess wrote her own novels. Easy to check if she uses a ghost writer. Most are acknowledged.

Has she got writing form from school, university, blogging etc.?

She reads scripts off an autocue. I suspect most or all writers would insist on reading their own scripts or ad libbing. I would definitely refuse to read somebody else's material off an autocue.
Cally's mum
18-11-2014
Originally Posted by inothernews:
“The poll on DS a couple of weeks ago had around 350 votes- and 66% thought Tess should be replaced by Zoe.

When you think opinion polls for general elections are normally based on interviewing 1.000 people (so about 3 times as many), and are seldom out by more than 3%, I would suggest the majority of the british public (not just the 350 who voted) will feel the same way.

Tess isn't hopeless, but she got the gig through being Bruce's carer. It could and should be better than it is. If you were interviewing from scratch, she would never get the job.”

The people who post here are pretty passionate about the show. Extrapolating from what people on here have voted to mean that the same percentage of ordinary viewers would vote in that way is an exercise in futility. Besides, opinion polls are never 100% an exact science and are often wrong.

But did we REALLY have to have yet ANOTHER thread saying exactly the same as the numerous others on the same subject?

I think Tess is fine.I seem to recall also someone telling us that she memorises her 'lines' and does not 'read off a Teleprompter', which takes some doing.

But I like all three ladies. Long nay they reign.
henrywilliams58
18-11-2014
Originally Posted by Cally's mum:
“The people who post here are pretty passionate about the show. Extrapolating from what people on here have voted to mean that the same percentage of ordinary viewers would vote in that way is an exercise in futility. Besides, opinion polls are never 100% an exact science and are often wrong.

But did we REALLY have to have yet ANOTHER thread saying exactly the same as the numerous others on the same subject?

I think Tess is fine. I seem to recall also someone telling us that she memorises her 'lines' and does not 'read off a Teleprompter', which takes some doing.

But I like all three ladies. Long nay they reign.”

Was it true? Does she say more than "Look, Look, LOOK" without looking at the camera (i.e. teleprompter) ?

Every actor memorises lines anyway.
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