No. The Paso doble is one of the 5 Main Latin dances (jive, rumba, paso, chacha, samba).

The charleston and Argentine tango are NEITHER but both have a lot of Latin influence in some of the steps.

The same with paso doble in Spain. No one bellow 70 years old will be dancing social Paso dobles. (Obviously not of the Ballroom variety, but what they dance on Verbenas in Spain.)

Usually a Latin dance is one that has its roots in Latin America or Cuba, though of course Paso has its roots in Spain!

Generally when we - in the UK - talk about the ballroom or Latin dances, we are referring to the 10 dances used in Worldwide competitions, known as International style.
Ballroom (also called Modern) = waltz, tango (ballroom not AT), foxtrot, quickstep and Viennese Waltz.
Latin (correct name is Latin AND American) = chacha, samba, rumba, paso doble, jive.

In America, as well International style, they also dance :

American Smooth = waltz, tango, foxtrot & Viennese Waltz NO Quickstep.

Rhythm (Latin) = which as well as the 5 International Latin dances, which differ from the International style mainly in timing (eg: chacha is slower, rumba faster) but can also include salsa, mambo, bolero, any of the various swings etc.

You could say that all dances are danced in a ballroom, therefore they are ballroom dances!

PD is one of the 10 standard Latin dances.

Not all dances fall into the ballroom/Latin sections. AT falls into a section all its own, while Charleston, like things like the Lambeth Walk(!) are largely classed as Party Dances.

Typo?

Is it 5 or 10 ? Or is there a difference between "standard" and "international" and is the latter a subset of the former?

Gosh. So inspiring and something to aspire to reach in my late 70s.

But Sevillanas are quite common at weddings and verbenas. Great fun. Everybody joins in.

After a few well chilled Fino Sherries I can handle the zapateos (foot stamps) and palmeras (hand claps and thigh slaps) but struggle with the pivotes (pivots).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hst2SuN6Als

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJIUkpdXDDU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38TmYBfgNGM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EASDk_pLRIY

A couple of months ago I was chatting (in Spanish) to an Argentine woman at a milonga who had just danced with an Argentine bloke I know - husband of a visiting teacher. I smiled politely and sidled off when she said she was Argentine. Too intimidated. Turns out she is an improver / intermediate (like me) and we are now regular AT partners. She insists that I sing during the tanda. Happy to oblige if I know the song(s)

Not a typo, but I can see what is confusing.

"Ballroom" is at different times, confusingly, called Standard or Modern.

However, when people refer to the 10 standard dances that are danced in competition they mean the 5 standard Ballroom dances (W, FX, T, QS, VW) and the 5 standard Latin dances (CH, S, R, PD, J) as opposed to any other dances that might fall into those categories.

'International' is the style danced in the UK, the Continent, Australasia, Japan, Russia etc etc etc., and used in competition worldwide, as opposed to the American Style of dance i.e. Smooth (ballroom) and Rhythm (Latin). Should add they also dance the International style in America, particularly if they intend to compete outside US, which gives them the potential of a huge variety of dances to learn!

Hope this makes it a bit clearer?

Ah yes. Thanks.

It was one of those amazing moments that you don't forget. You will get there, you are pretty passionate about AT.

Sevillanas are traditional from Sevilla. It is danced as you say in the south of Spain (Andalusia) only, young and old alike. People from the south that have emigrated to the rest of Spain may continue their family tradition and other may learn it,though it is extremely rare that a public verbena in Leon or zaragoza for instance would have sevillanas. Never in Barcelona or Bilbao (but that is another story!). Each area in Spain has its own traditional regional dance, although arguably sevillanas are the most beautiful and striking.
A lot of people start with sevillanas on route for flamenco by the way, in fact sevillanas could be described as what the whites Andalusian dance in reply to the gypsies flamenco. Or even a "ballroom" version of flamenco, sevillanas have a very strict moves, flamenco is fire, freedom itself.

Last time I danced sevillanas was actually in sevilla at a private party of the wife of a bullfighter, a retired but very significant one. The way men dance in Spain! They go for it with gusto and ability too!

You're pretty close to the truth though!

Ballroom Jive comes from East Coast Swing (USA) and, like so many of the dances which fall under the 'Ballroom 10' label, their origins are from authentic dances - from Afro-Cuban son and salsa, rumba and mambo, USA swing, Samba from Brazil, Paso Doble from Spain and all altered quite significantly to fit in with the ballroom style.

Mambo and son escaped, happily!

So really much of ballroom dances are borrowed from the countries and bear very little resemblance to the original. In some cases they are unrecognisable

The Charleston is not a ballroom dance at all. It began in jazz clubs. Again, it was imported from the USA and underwent some changes when it hit the UK as a popular club dance after it was seen in Hollywood movies. Ditto the Foxtrot.

Argentine Tango does not belong in any ballroom category, nor could it be described as 'Latin'. That would be boxing it neatly under label to which it does not belong. If anything it belongs to Buenos Aires and Montevideo.

Usually because it was 'borrowed' from a Latin country by the ballroom crowd who altered it to suit their brand of dancing.

Samba - from Brazil
Tango - from Argentina, but unrecognisable now in ballroom format
Jive - not Latin. It's American Swing - East Coast to be precise
Rumba - Cuba
Paso - Spain

You are so right MM. Glad to see you post here and unravel the myths!

And it is so true about Sevillanas being the route to flamenco. That's how I did it myself - and ended up studying flamenco for many years.

Is there a connection between Rumba Flamenca and Ballroom Rumba?

About the only connection between ballroom Rumba and Rumba Flamenca is the name rumba! There the similarity ends. Ballroom rumba originates from Cuba, while rumba Flamenca (or Flamenco rumba) originates in Spain; apart from the name there is no similarity at all.

At one time the term rhumba generally referred to Cuban type dances.

The ballroom version of rumba, along with cha cha, samba, paso, etc., were only developed with distinctive technique after the 2nd World War. They were mainly developed by Doris Lavelle and her partner Monsieur Pierre, who travelled extensively to study the dances in various countries.

Thanks. Sometimes a little knowledge takes you backwards.

Oh dear, not sure what you mean??!!

Rumba is not the same as Rumba

Actually, rumba flamenca is a dance considered de Ida y Vuelta. It means that is the result of Spanish emigration to Cuba and then returned to Spain, so in fact it does have some commonality. It is one of the more melosa (subtle, sensual...) form of flamenco, influence no doubt of the Cubans.
Then there is the rumba Catalana which I think has less to do with Cuba and it is generally a more modern occurrence, Peret being the "king". Basically, it's a sound created by gypsy immigrants in Cataluña, very party like, almost gypsy kings.

Me too! Everyone can learn and dance sevillanas, real flamenco not so many.
People either have angel or not, and no matter how many hours they put in, if they lack it, there is nothing they can do about it.

Interesting stuff MM Thank you. What is angel? Something like duende?

I was wondering that too

Yes, it is Similar. Some sugest that duende is a more profund aspect and angel is more superficial, yet both relate to innate grace and ability to embody music and transmit certain magic, also the ability to dance with no choreography and in the moment. That Je ne se quais that diferenciates a good technician to a great dancer.
As everything in flamenco, it is fairly misterious and undefined.