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Old 18-11-2014, 23:27
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Whatever you do, please do NOT make Mick and Dean full brothers. I have seen post after post after post on Digital Spy saying how much more greater it would be if they were full brothers instead of half-brothers and it would be the most contrived thing ever if that was the truth. If this was an American soap, then it would probably happen but its not. And I'm sick of the good people on DS insisting it is going to happen. Shirley already admitted she was biggest slut when she was younger and tramped it up with many men and only knew the first name of Carly's biological father but nothing of Dean. She knows Andy's name. We might never find out who Dean's father is because Shirley slept with more guys then anybody on the program. Do not go this route. Kevin is Dean's father and will always be his father. Do not white-wash him out of his son's life. There might not be a blood relationship there, but Kevin is a saint for raising his dying child and two children that came from God knows who. It will be wrong. I wouldn't mind if Shirley just gives a name out to debunk all this Andy is Dean's father also crap, but do not go this route.
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Old 18-11-2014, 23:30
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I agree, because if they make them full brothers no doubt this guy will start playing father to Dean within four months or so - and that'll ruin the whole purpose of Kevin.
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Old 18-11-2014, 23:39
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They are going to be half brothers - and what you think DTC will read this?
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Old 18-11-2014, 23:39
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He's so gonna be BOTH their Daddy's!!!!!! You can see it coming a mile off!!!!!
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Old 18-11-2014, 23:39
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Its like they are trying to saintify Shirley. Just watch. If this is true, rather than her sleeping with different men, it will have only been Andy and Carly and maybe Jimbo will turn out to be his also and they'll say that Kevin was a liar and a cheater in order to vindicate Shirley and make it OK for her to cheat on him so she won't be a whore, she'll be a perfect woman who left because she couldn't handle her nasty husband (despite the fact that Kevin should be a saint for raising 2 bastards and a dying child) and that she let Andy go in order for him to marry someone else. Blech.
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Old 18-11-2014, 23:43
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Dear DTC,

Could you please ignore everything I said in my last letter? I didn't mean to sound so intimidating when I said you should cast me as the long-lost Asian son of Phil Mitchell. Thanks.
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Old 18-11-2014, 23:44
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Dear DTC,

I'm thinking of changing brand of kitchen towels. Which would you recommend?
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Old 18-11-2014, 23:45
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Apparently I forgot to put this in, but that was basically an open letter meant to start a discussion. I have no doubt that DTC will trash the letter if I ever sent it to him, which I can't since postage alone would probably cost an arm and a leg for a letter going across the pond.
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Old 18-11-2014, 23:49
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Its like they are trying to saintify Shirley. Just watch. If this is true, rather than her sleeping with different men, it will have only been Andy and Carly and maybe Jimbo will turn out to be his also and they'll say that Kevin was a liar and a cheater in order to vindicate Shirley and make it OK for her to cheat on him so she won't be a whore, she'll be a perfect woman who left because she couldn't handle her nasty husband (despite the fact that Kevin should be a saint for raising 2 bastards and a dying child) and that she let Andy go in order for him to marry someone else. Blech.
Why would they make out that Shirley left Kevin because he was 'nasty' when the way Shirley was treated by her own mother and father and what she went through with Mick, which would have a lasting effect, is enough of a reason for her to have jumped ship from Kevin and the kids. They don't have to make Kevin the bad guy.

Even if Andy is also Dean and Carly's father, I can't see him being Jimbo's as well. I think it's more likely that Jimbo's arrival started putting pressure on the relationship and that's what drove Shirley into her ex's arms. People aren't always honest about whom they've been having an affair with. And Shirley might not have wanted Dean or Carly to track down Andy in 2007. I'm not saying it has been planned all along but it can be explained away if this is the outcome.

I think you're getting carried away. And even if DTC does see your post, if this is what he has planned he can't change it now can he?
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Old 18-11-2014, 23:50
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If Mick and Dean do turn out to be full brothers, they'll expect us to believe that Shirley meets up with this Andy character once every 10 years or so, has sex with him, gets pregnant, doesn't tell him and then has his baby, which means that there's possibly another Shirley sprog somewhere who is in their teens, waiting to show up any day now.
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Old 18-11-2014, 23:50
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Whatever you do, please do NOT make Mick and Dean full brothers. I have seen post after post after post on Digital Spy saying how much more greater it would be if they were full brothers instead of half-brothers and it would be the most contrived thing ever if that was the truth. If this was an American soap, then it would probably happen but its not. And I'm sick of the good people on DS insisting it is going to happen. Shirley already admitted she was biggest slut when she was younger and tramped it up with many men and only knew the first name of Carly's biological father but nothing of Dean. She knows Andy's name. We might never find out who Dean's father is because Shirley slept with more guys then anybody on the program. Do not go this route. Kevin is Dean's father and will always be his father. Do not white-wash him out of his son's life. There might not be a blood relationship there, but Kevin is a saint for raising his dying child and two children that came from God knows who. It will be wrong. I wouldn't mind if Shirley just gives a name out to debunk all this Andy is Dean's father also crap, but do not go this route.
VERY well said.

Sadly, DTC seems to be desperate to sanitize Shirley so I wouldn't be at all surprised if he claims that Shirley cheated on ALL her other partners to keep going back to "Andy" to be inseminated by him alone, which would not only implausible as she seemingly went after anything with a d**k, but is also frankly insulting to the intelligence of his viewers.

But then he created her a large extended family out of nothing, so anything is possible.

I'm hoping that Buster ISN'T 'Andy' but just another baldy she picked up in Ramsgate because he reminds her of Phil.
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Old 18-11-2014, 23:52
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Long live Queen Shirley!!!!
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Old 18-11-2014, 23:56
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I agree, because if they make them full brothers no doubt this guy will start playing father to Dean within four months or so - and that'll ruin the whole purpose of Kevin.
Kevin's dead and has been for years. However, I see no reason why Dean would have to forget him if Buster is his real dad???

Dean wouldn't be the first person to reconnect with and forge a relationship with a biological parent. That shouldn't cancel out what Kevin did for him.
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Old 19-11-2014, 00:08
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Except that it probably will and in a few months, people will all be like "Kevin Who"?
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Old 19-11-2014, 08:03
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I actually really like the idea. It is perfectly acceptable and plausible that Mick and Dean could have the same father, it would also explain how Buster has always been in Shirley's life and she didn't randomly bump into him 37 years later. Shirley reconnecting with (potential) Andy, while married to Kevin is completely believable in my book. I would like her and Dean to sit down and address why she left, it should have been done already imo.

They aren't in anyway painting Kevin out to be a bad guy? Jumping the gun a little. And they aren't making Shirley out to be a saint or the 'perfect woman', she still cheated on her husband and had a child with another man, TPTB are exploring Shirley, why she is the way she is and why she acts the ways she does, but they aren't condoning anything, just developing and explaining, and about time too. I personally think aunt Babe has spent a lifetime manipulating Shirley.

Plus, by potentially casting Dean's real dad would not make anyone forget about Kevin, (though most people have to ask who he was anyway, he wasn't the most memorable of characters) It would be good to meet Dean's biological father and find out more about why Shirley left.

My note to DTC would be to keep Buster and Shirley together, she is better without Phil and it would be nice to see her in a equal relationship where she is loved equally bakck, away from Phil, free from affairs and secret families, please.

Though I do hope that Buster doesn't have any other children out there, it would be too much to bring in more baggage with him, I think. I'd keep him baggage free in that respect.
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Old 19-11-2014, 08:12
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In don't mind them being full brothers tbh. Both actors do look alike so I reckon it's
Plausible if andy is a one off fling for shirl.
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Old 19-11-2014, 22:27
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Dear DTC.

Please find a flashlight and search for a way out of the Philth's arse.

Thanks very much.
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Old 19-11-2014, 22:42
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Dear DTC.

Please find a flashlight and search for a way out of the Philth's arse.

Thanks very much.
Lol . That place is a maze I hear . You might need to throw DTC a map .
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Old 19-11-2014, 23:02
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Lol . That place is a maze I hear . You might need to throw DTC a map .
Well he could obtain some help from all the other EP's trapped in there who have regarded Philth as a living God since Grant left.

I 'can't wait' to see him totally 'own' Lee (was a member of a bomb disposal team in Afghanistan so he will obviously be terrified of the aging thug wheezing all over him) and the latest 'hardman' to enter the square (Shirley's new bloke).

Yawn.

Yawn.

Yawn.
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Old 19-11-2014, 23:07
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Well he could obtain some help from all the other EP's trapped in there who have regarded Philth as a living God since Grant left.

I 'can't wait' to see him totally 'own' Lee (was a member of a bomb disposal team in Afghanistan so he will obviously be terrified of the aging thug wheezing all over him) and the latest 'hardman' to enter the square (Shirley's new bloke).

Yawn.

Yawn.

Yawn.
Just of curiosity Keyser who do you dislike more, Phil or Peggy?
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Old 19-11-2014, 23:24
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Just of curiosity Keyser who do you dislike more, Phil or Peggy?
Philth probably - because of his total and utter 'invincibility' he ruins the credibility of any character he comes into contact with - just look at Sharon and Shirley the doormats or Charlie having to beg him for money.

Until an EP has the guts to show him for what he is - not Don Corleone but a petty little thug with delusions of grandeur this sorry situation will continue.

Peggy was just a nasty, badly-acted, deluded old bag.
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Old 20-11-2014, 00:48
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Well he could obtain some help from all the other EP's trapped in there who have regarded Philth as a living God since Grant left.

I 'can't wait' to see him totally 'own' Lee (was a member of a bomb disposal team in Afghanistan so he will obviously be terrified of the aging thug wheezing all over him) and the latest 'hardman' to enter the square (Shirley's new bloke).

Yawn.

Yawn.

Yawn.
Phil's arse must be awfully crowded .

Lee could be Bruce Lee and Mohammed Ali rolled into one, and he wouldn't be able to get a scratch on the almighty King Philth.
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Old 20-11-2014, 00:51
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Dear DTC, hope your wearing nose pegs, must stink in there, he's called Philth for a reason.
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Old 20-11-2014, 01:33
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Phil's arse must be awfully crowded .

Lee could be Bruce Lee and Mohammed Ali rolled into one, and he wouldn't be able to get a scratch on the almighty King Philth.
I hear that the Klitschko brothers pay the Philth protection money.

Actually there is a lot of total and utter bullshit about Bruce Lee - give me a pro boxer every single time to try and land a punch on TPTB's living God!
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Old 20-11-2014, 10:11
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Our DTC who art in Elstree,
Shortened be thy name.
Thy Carters come,
Thy will be done,
On earth as it is on Bridge Street.

Give Phil this day, a potato shaped head,
And forgive Abi's murderings,
As she gigglesnorts those who act better for us,
And lead the young cast not into resignation,
But deliver us from evil.

For thine is the Vic,
The Caf, and the Arches,
For ever and ever.
Amen.
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