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Old 19-11-2014, 08:00
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http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s1...r-ste-hay.html

Ste Hay... I really hope they don't mess this up. Emmerdale did a great job with Val Pollard.

He is the first gay character in British Soap to have HIV?
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Old 19-11-2014, 08:29
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I think they mean that he's the first to have HIVthat doesn't immediately progress to AIDS. But still it does seem a bit odd as it's not really untrodden ground.
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Old 19-11-2014, 08:29
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But how come? He didn't even slept with so many people. Is it to do with him being drug user? Now we'll have another storyline: does JP and Sinead have it too.
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Old 19-11-2014, 08:32
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And Sinead's baby!
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Old 19-11-2014, 08:35
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But how come? He didn't even slept with so many people. Is it to do with him being drug user? Now we'll have another storyline: does JP and Sinead have it too.
I'm guessing he probably gets it from drug use.
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Old 19-11-2014, 08:38
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Yes, good point.
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Old 19-11-2014, 08:38
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Zzzzzzzzzzzz. Really don't care. Sick of seeing "woe is me" Ste.
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Old 19-11-2014, 08:44
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http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s1...r-ste-hay.html

Ste Hay... I really hope they don't mess this up. Emmerdale did a great job with Val Pollard.

He is the first gay character in British Soap to have HIV?
The Emmerdale one was awful, I can only hope HO do it better but I doubt it very much.
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Old 19-11-2014, 08:48
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The Emmerdale one was awful, I can only hope HO do it better but I doubt it very much.
I thought the start of the Emmerdale one was good. I loved all the stuff with Val first realising she had it, and being scared to get tested - it was excellent.

It's just that the storyliners didn't know where to take it, so it turned into yet another interminabale "Val & Eric break up and get back together again ad infinitum" drearfest.

You know what the Hollyoaks one will be like - there will be one big "sensitive" episode where Ste realises he's got it, and the rest will be laughable trash. Or he'll just go offscreen and everyone will forget he's got it. And it's probably just a plot device for St John Paul the Martyr of McQueen to show everyone what a freaking hero he is while patronising the backside off Ste for basically being a sub-standard loser who doesn't really deserve him.
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Old 19-11-2014, 08:50
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Last time I checked though, he doesn't inject or use needles.

I'd be outraged, but I don't care anymore. Kieron should have left ages ago and pursued a better career for himself than allowing Kirkwood to take him down with the ship

And on a show where everyone sleeps with everyone, Ste's suddenly the one to get HIV? It's just another awards bait issue-led storyline Kirwood to pat himself on the back for because they'd used up every other idea and they know Kieron's their best bet for the major awards.

And this ruins the idea of Ste ever finding peace and leaving behind all the baggage of years and years of soap nonsense, becuase there's no cure for this. And it's shitty either way, but the least they could do is tell a good story, right? But they won't. Even with the regard Kieron has as an actor and within the soap world, they won't do him any justice. He'll just be playing the same self-destructive sensationalist crap he has for the last year and a half before it's revealed GASP that Ste was misdiagnosed and he doesn't have the disease after all.
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Old 19-11-2014, 09:05
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Another important issue story for the show to make a joke out of then?

Kieron's one of the best actors left so I'm sure he'll put his heart and soul into it but no doubt they'll throw in explosions and kidnaps and yet another "issue" story will be an embarrassment. They'll do one "sensitive" week of episodes and it'll be back to business as usual.
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Old 19-11-2014, 09:07
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And where was all of this justification for Ste's downward spiraling on the show?

Bryan can mention Brendan and Doug and all this loss Ste's suffered in an interview, but Ste only really started doing drugs on the show WHEN SINEAD ENDED THEIR FRIENDSHIP.

Bryan Kirkwood, ladies and gentleman. The worst producer ever.
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Old 19-11-2014, 09:14
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Wait a minute...didn't another soap do a HIV storyline in the last twelve months....surely that a coincidence?? you know cause BK would never blatantly copy would he or recycle another storyline he did a couple of years ago with Malachy.

Irony of this announcement, would be a potentially good issue based storyline but it will be poorly done and forgotten about within weeks, shame KR is one of the show best actors.
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Old 19-11-2014, 09:15
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They did a good job initially with the Kris/Mercedes/Malachy HIV story, when Mal found out about his HIV, Mercedes panicing and Kris taking the PEP drugs making him violently ill.

But eventually that got turned into excuses for Mercedes to cheat (again) and the actual living with HIV story which is what is meant to be about was forgotten, ending with the mind numbingly boring Mal/Lynsey/Mercedes rubbish of Later 2010 and his crappy death soon after.

And seeing how stupid the show has got since then...

Last time I checked though, he doesn't inject or use needles.

I'd be outraged, but I don't care anymore. Kieron should have left ages ago and pursued a better career for himself than allowing Kirkwood to take him down with the ship

And on a show where everyone sleeps with everyone, Ste's suddenly the one to get HIV? It's just another awards bait issue-led storyline Kirwood to pat himself on the back for because they'd used up every other idea and they know Kieron's their best bet for the major awards.

And this ruins the idea of Ste ever finding peace and leaving behind all the baggage of years and years of soap nonsense, becuase there's no cure for this. And it's shitty either way, but the least they could do is tell a good story, right? But they won't. Even with the regard Kieron has as an actor and within the soap world, they won't do him any justice. He'll just be playing the same self-destructive sensationalist crap he has for the last year and a half before it's revealed GASP that Ste was misdiagnosed and he doesn't have the disease after all.
... This. Exactly Iclabon 100%
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Old 19-11-2014, 09:26
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Sigh.

I have no doubt that Kieron will knock this out of the park. He always does. But HO has long gone past the point where they'd be able to tell this story sensitively or accurately. It will be the usual mix of hospital crap, Grace and Trevor somehow shoehorned into it, a kidnap along the way... rinse and repeat.

Meanwhile we'll see Saint JP pursued relentlessly by Lockie (as if) and it will somehow be justified when he inevitably sleeps with him, because Ste is apparently meant to be the dirty, chavvy, self-destructing gay while JP is the pure and decent one.

And then Ste will be miserable and alone, again, because it will be ALL his fault that he ended up like this, while JP will continue to be victimised so that the viewers can continue to be tricked into thinking that he's in some way a sympathetic character.

Why the hell hasn't Kieron left this heap of crap show yet? He is SO much better than playing second fiddle to James bloody Sutton's Our JP Of The Perpetual Victimisation.

Sorry for the rant. This has really annoyed me this morning.
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Old 19-11-2014, 09:29
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Hey I'm no Kirkwood fan, in fact I despise the guy after what he did to EE - which I now think was partly on purpose, but this is an important issue to tell and I think his statement on the matter is honest.
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Old 19-11-2014, 09:33
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Hey I'm no Kirkwood fan, in fact I despise the guy after what he did to EE - which I now think was partly on purpose, but this is an important issue to tell and I think his statement on the matter is honest.
It's an important issue, no doubt, but so were the male rape and domestic abuse storylines, and look how ridiculous they both turned out to be.

It's all very well to pluck an important issue from the many important issues out there and decide that's what HO's next big issue-based storyline will be, but I have no confidence in BK to make this even remotely accurate or sensitive.
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Old 19-11-2014, 09:46
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HIV is becoming a huge problem amongst gay men, especially in London, it's something we're all incredibly aware of. I'd therefore prefer to see Ste contract the virus realistically.

Many guys I know who've been unfortunate enough to find themselves positive have done so, by taking risks and having unprotected sex with someone they don't know. If Hollyoaks insist on continuing with the drug plot with Ste, it could be good to show, that meeting someone online, hanging out with that person and taking drugs together, leads to a sexual situation where Ste, puts himself at risk due to being so high he cannot make an informed choice. He makes a mistake, and it has huge ramifications.

It's happened to so many people I know....I think the issue needs to be covered, realistically and sensitively. I hope TPTB don't mess this up
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Old 19-11-2014, 10:06
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We've already seen Ste wake up next to someone he didn't know after a drugs bender in the episodes leading up to him going into rehab. I presume he didn't sleep with JP in between as they were arguing so this would probably fit with the three months timescale that's needed to properly diagnose HIV.
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Old 19-11-2014, 10:10
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We've already seen Ste wake up next to someone he didn't know after a drugs bender in the episodes leading up to him going into rehab. I presume he didn't sleep with JP in between as they were arguing so this would probably fit with the three months timescale that's needed to properly diagnose HIV.
Ah thanks, I didn't see that episode with Ste sleeping with a random, this storyline could start to make actual sense!
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Old 19-11-2014, 10:13
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Sounds like a very interesting story - I hope HO gets it right.
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Old 19-11-2014, 10:22
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I think it's disappointing that Hollyoaks have gone down the stereotypical route of making Ste the focus of this storyline presumably just because he's gay.

Fact is that anyone, regardless of gender or sexuality, who engages in unprotected sex or drug use (with needles) is putting themselves at a higher risk of contracting HIV or another STI or similarly transmitted disease.

Hollyoaks is a hotbed of casual, unprotected sex, as witnessed by the regular number of unplanned pregnancies after a one night stand. The characters don't even learn from their mistakes, as they then get pregnant a second time after yet another drunken, unprotected encounter. Age, experience and education seems to be no barrier to being unable to buy and use condoms, or sort out some other contraception. It annoys me that Hollyoaks sends out such an irresponsible message when its target audience is young teens. Having a teenage pregnancy is no big deal in HOs world, as babies are rarely seen, or allowed to interfere with the characters social lives, education, ability to work etc. Why don't they portray THIS realistically, if they want to send out a useful message to their young audience?
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Old 19-11-2014, 10:24
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But how come? He didn't even slept with so many people. Is it to do with him being drug user? Now we'll have another storyline: does JP and Sinead have it too.
like getting pregnant - it only takes one!
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Old 19-11-2014, 10:30
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Sigh.

I have no doubt that Kieron will knock this out of the park. He always does. But HO has long gone past the point where they'd be able to tell this story sensitively or accurately. It will be the usual mix of hospital crap, Grace and Trevor somehow shoehorned into it, a kidnap along the way... rinse and repeat.

Meanwhile we'll see Saint JP pursued relentlessly by Lockie (as if) and it will somehow be justified when he inevitably sleeps with him, because Ste is apparently meant to be the dirty, chavvy, self-destructing gay while JP is the pure and decent one.

And then Ste will be miserable and alone, again, because it will be ALL his fault that he ended up like this, while JP will continue to be victimised so that the viewers can continue to be tricked into thinking that he's in some way a sympathetic character.

Why the hell hasn't Kieron left this heap of crap show yet? He is SO much better than playing second fiddle to James bloody Sutton's Our JP Of The Perpetual Victimisation.

Sorry for the rant. This has really annoyed me this morning.
Yeah. This.

Ste will be miserable and tortured, while JP sees fit to sleep with his cousin's husband.

And if you think about it, this is really going to limit what they can do with Ste now. He can't even sleep around like every other character on this show anymore. It's another big reason why I'm sure they won't handle this realistically and sensitively. This is isn't a show that will string out the emotional conflict of self-acceptance and telling people and acclimating to treatment, etc. He'll go on another binge and try to kill himself, probably be the Angel of Mercy's number one target for awhile, and then when they realize they're too lazy to figure anything else out with more depth, they'll write him out every other month until they don't want him to have HIV anymore.

No doubt him randomly waking up next to some troll one random episode that hardly anyone can even recall, is a reflection of how they'll treat this storyline. As they have everything else.
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Old 19-11-2014, 10:44
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Would have been more realistic if Sinead got it.
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