All networks 3G and 4G coverage maps snapshot

Gigabit · 22-11-2014, 13:55

When you say NR masts, you refer to the masts that they use for their own purposes, yes? Not the ones that mobile networks can use?

moox · 22-11-2014, 14:03

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Originally Posted by Gigabit

When you say NR masts, you refer to the masts that they use for their own purposes, yes? Not the ones that mobile networks can use?

NR has erected tons of masts to build their GSM-R network, so yes. It's on their land and used for safety critical communications so AFAIK they don't need to ask permission from anyone on height or location

Gigabit · 22-11-2014, 14:59

So the plan is to force NR to allow access to them?

moox · 22-11-2014, 15:48

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Originally Posted by Gigabit

So the plan is to force NR to allow access to them?

I don't think there is any force, NR has already made noises about using their extensive fibre network to improve on train data connectivity, so whether that includes those masts too or something more specialised I don't know

Zebb · 03-12-2014, 14:33

Pyewipe (west Grimsby) is doing well for 4G, O2 shows coverage today from the same mast as 3's 4G. Still waiting for 'cubes' apparently in Cleethorpes.

dabotsonline · 03-12-2014, 19:30

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Originally Posted by The Lord Lucan

Network Rail is to become a bit more open shortly regarding train coverage..

Do you have a source for this?

sb300869 · 09-01-2015, 17:41

I think we need to take these maps with a pinch of salt. I decide to move away from Three because I was not happy with the 4G rollout.

I decide to take a risk and try Vodafone and I have to say so far I have been very impressed with the coverage which was a nice surprise. I do travel around especially in the SE. Nice to see I was seeing much better 3G coverage in rural areas which were normally no signal spots with three. and better still I seeing a lot more 4G coverage in most of these places as well.

In the Greater London area Vodafone 4G coverage is much better than 3 network and it is a lot more faster.

I have been hearing that Vodafone 4G coverage should be just as good as EE in the near future.

jabbamk1 · 09-01-2015, 18:08

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Originally Posted by sb300869

I have been hearing that Vodafone 4G coverage should be just as good as EE in the near future.

EE will be the leader in terms of overall 4G roll out for a long time.

jchamier · 09-01-2015, 22:14

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Originally Posted by jabbamk1

EE will be the leader in terms of overall 4G roll out for a long time.

I thought it was EE and then Voda second? Voda have quite a bit of 800 spectrum and enough money to implement properly; and EE have a lot of 1800 spectrum and a lot of masts, so plenty of capacity? So EE will give high speeds and range, and voda will have medium speeds over long range? Then o2 and three will have mediocre speeds in comparison?

jabbamk1 · 09-01-2015, 22:18

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Originally Posted by jchamier

I thought it was EE and then Voda second? Voda have quite a bit of 800 spectrum and enough money to implement properly; and EE have a lot of 1800 spectrum and a lot of masts, so plenty of capacity? So EE will give high speeds and range, and voda will have medium speeds over long range? Then o2 and three will have mediocre speeds in comparison?

EE too have 800 and 2600.

And a lot of masts. Pretty much all of which will have L1800.

DevonBloke · 09-01-2015, 22:21

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Originally Posted by jabbamk1

EE too have 800 and 2600.

And a lot of masts. Pretty much all of which will have L1800.

Yeah and they have shi.... er shed loads of 1800!!

jabbamk1 · 09-01-2015, 22:22

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Originally Posted by DevonBloke

Yeah and they have shi.... er shed loads of 1800!!

I believe the correct term is "shit loads".

jchamier · 09-01-2015, 22:26

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Originally Posted by jabbamk1

EE too have 800 and 2600.

And a lot of masts. Pretty much all of which will have L1800.

Yes, the sheer volume of masts is going to do wonders. The 800 however is only 2x5mhz? So it will give coverage in places where Orange/Tmobile never managed before, but it won't give impressive speeds. 2600 is great for capacity offload from 1800 where the signal reaches - and for LTE-A

jabbamk1 · 09-01-2015, 22:34

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Originally Posted by jchamier

Yes, the sheer volume of masts is going to do wonders. The 800 however is only 2x5mhz? So it will give coverage in places where Orange/Tmobile never managed before, but it won't give impressive speeds. 2600 is great for capacity offload from 1800 where the signal reaches - and for LTE-A

You have to remember though that EE has more cumulative spectrum than Vodafone when you look at L800 & L1800. Plus the advantage that L1800 will be everywhere + 800 to support. In fact EE don't even need 800 tbh but the fact that they have it gives them a huge advantage.

jchamier · 09-01-2015, 22:35

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Originally Posted by jabbamk1

You have to remember though that EE has more cumulative spectrum than Vodafone when you look at it. Plus the advantage that L1800 will be anywhere. In fact EE don't even need 800 tbh but the fact that they have it gives them a huge advantage.

Gotcha. Looking forward to all EE masts having L1800

jabbamk1 · 09-01-2015, 22:36

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Originally Posted by jchamier

Gotcha. Looking forward to all EE masts having L1800

And yeh, agree with what you say about 2600.

plymouthbloke1974 · 09-01-2015, 22:41

In 18 months time there is going to be a massive difference in O2 and Vodafone 2G/3G it'll be unreal... To the levels that MBNL are at now. And it's only because of the recent MOU between the networks. 4G will still carry on as per now... By 2018 (yes I know it's a while away), I'm confident that all the UK networks will be some of the best in the EU

jabbamk1 · 09-01-2015, 22:42

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Originally Posted by plymouthbloke1974

In 18 months time there is going to be a massive difference in O2 and Vodafone 2G/3G it'll be unreal... To the levels that MBNL are at now.

And in just 11 years since launch, record time too......

/s

plymouthbloke1974 · 09-01-2015, 22:48

I'm being realistic, seeing how far they are behind against their recent agreement.

At least I hope they will lol

jabbamk1 · 09-01-2015, 22:49

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Originally Posted by plymouthbloke1974

I'm being realistic, seeing how far they are behind against their recent agreement.

At least I hope they will lol

No I agree with you.

I don't think it'll ever be as good as MBNL speed and latency wise.
But coverage wise it should get better.

japaul · 09-01-2015, 23:35

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Originally Posted by jabbamk1

You have to remember though that EE has more cumulative spectrum than Vodafone when you look at L800 & L1800. Plus the advantage that L1800 will be everywhere + 800 to support. In fact EE don't even need 800 tbh but the fact that they have it gives them a huge advantage.

I posted this in a different thread but I think Vodafone's point will be that if you are in their 4G coverage speed will be fast enough for anything you are likely to need and it will be more robust than EE given it's mainly 800 v 1800 and what seems to be a comparable number of 4G sites in their "covered" areas. That's theory anyway.

My usage is now split between the two and I'd put EE 4G ahead because of outright speed and at the moment the bigger general footprint (and I'm not even thinking about the current 3G coverage gulf). But whilst the speed advantage will probably remain, the coverage one will reduce and within the covered areas Vodafone's 4G availability is generally more solid. Still won't stop Rootmetrics putting them last though.

DevonBloke · 09-01-2015, 23:45

The point about 2600 is an important one though.
EE have a "shit load" (Jabba : ) don't they?
This will give them a massive advantage with 1800.
On a cell with 2600 and 1800, close handsets will choose 2600 over 1800 (LTE is clever like that!) so the bandwidth available on 1800 will increase massively for handsets further away.

jabbamk1 · 09-01-2015, 23:49

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Originally Posted by DevonBloke

EE have a "shit load" (Jabba : ) don't they?

http://evergreenterrace.com.au/wp-co...Catburglar.gif

You and I have this understanding that I can't explain.

jabbamk1 · 09-01-2015, 23:58

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Originally Posted by japaul

Still won't stop Rootmetrics putting them last though.

Why do you guys keep making me post this.....? WHY!

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps75aca2bf.gif

plymouthbloke1974 · 10-01-2015, 00:04

I just hope Vodafone buck their ideas up with 3G in the SW. Not bothered about 4G at the moment. Mind you, 95% of my use is in a 3G area so can't complain too much...

22-11-2014, 13:55	#26
Gigabit Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,887	When you say NR masts, you refer to the masts that they use for their own purposes, yes? Not the ones that mobile networks can use?

22-11-2014, 14:03	#27
moox Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 14,645	Quote: Originally Posted by Gigabit When you say NR masts, you refer to the masts that they use for their own purposes, yes? Not the ones that mobile networks can use? NR has erected tons of masts to build their GSM-R network, so yes. It's on their land and used for safety critical communications so AFAIK they don't need to ask permission from anyone on height or location

22-11-2014, 14:59	#28
Gigabit Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,887	So the plan is to force NR to allow access to them?

22-11-2014, 15:48	#29
moox Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 14,645	Quote: Originally Posted by Gigabit So the plan is to force NR to allow access to them? I don't think there is any force, NR has already made noises about using their extensive fibre network to improve on train data connectivity, so whether that includes those masts too or something more specialised I don't know

03-12-2014, 14:33	#30
Zebb Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 652	Pyewipe (west Grimsby) is doing well for 4G, O2 shows coverage today from the same mast as 3's 4G. Still waiting for 'cubes' apparently in Cleethorpes.

03-12-2014, 19:30	#31
dabotsonline Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 225	Quote: Originally Posted by The Lord Lucan Network Rail is to become a bit more open shortly regarding train coverage.. Do you have a source for this?

09-01-2015, 17:41	#32
sb300869 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 65	I think we need to take these maps with a pinch of salt. I decide to move away from Three because I was not happy with the 4G rollout. I decide to take a risk and try Vodafone and I have to say so far I have been very impressed with the coverage which was a nice surprise. I do travel around especially in the SE. Nice to see I was seeing much better 3G coverage in rural areas which were normally no signal spots with three. and better still I seeing a lot more 4G coverage in most of these places as well. In the Greater London area Vodafone 4G coverage is much better than 3 network and it is a lot more faster. I have been hearing that Vodafone 4G coverage should be just as good as EE in the near future.

09-01-2015, 18:08	#33
jabbamk1 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, UK Posts: 8,759	Quote: Originally Posted by sb300869 I have been hearing that Vodafone 4G coverage should be just as good as EE in the near future. EE will be the leader in terms of overall 4G roll out for a long time.

09-01-2015, 22:14	#34
jchamier Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: This forum Posts: 3,392	Quote: Originally Posted by jabbamk1 EE will be the leader in terms of overall 4G roll out for a long time. I thought it was EE and then Voda second? Voda have quite a bit of 800 spectrum and enough money to implement properly; and EE have a lot of 1800 spectrum and a lot of masts, so plenty of capacity? So EE will give high speeds and range, and voda will have medium speeds over long range? Then o2 and three will have mediocre speeds in comparison?

09-01-2015, 22:18	#35
jabbamk1 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, UK Posts: 8,759	Quote: Originally Posted by jchamier I thought it was EE and then Voda second? Voda have quite a bit of 800 spectrum and enough money to implement properly; and EE have a lot of 1800 spectrum and a lot of masts, so plenty of capacity? So EE will give high speeds and range, and voda will have medium speeds over long range? Then o2 and three will have mediocre speeds in comparison? EE too have 800 and 2600. And a lot of masts. Pretty much all of which will have L1800.

09-01-2015, 22:21	#36
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	Quote: Originally Posted by jabbamk1 EE too have 800 and 2600. And a lot of masts. Pretty much all of which will have L1800. Yeah and they have shi.... er shed loads of 1800!!

09-01-2015, 22:22	#37
jabbamk1 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, UK Posts: 8,759	Quote: Originally Posted by DevonBloke Yeah and they have shi.... er shed loads of 1800!! I believe the correct term is "shit loads".

09-01-2015, 22:26	#38
jchamier Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: This forum Posts: 3,392	Quote: Originally Posted by jabbamk1 EE too have 800 and 2600. And a lot of masts. Pretty much all of which will have L1800. Yes, the sheer volume of masts is going to do wonders. The 800 however is only 2x5mhz? So it will give coverage in places where Orange/Tmobile never managed before, but it won't give impressive speeds. 2600 is great for capacity offload from 1800 where the signal reaches - and for LTE-A

09-01-2015, 22:34	#39
jabbamk1 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, UK Posts: 8,759	Quote: Originally Posted by jchamier Yes, the sheer volume of masts is going to do wonders. The 800 however is only 2x5mhz? So it will give coverage in places where Orange/Tmobile never managed before, but it won't give impressive speeds. 2600 is great for capacity offload from 1800 where the signal reaches - and for LTE-A You have to remember though that EE has more cumulative spectrum than Vodafone when you look at L800 & L1800. Plus the advantage that L1800 will be everywhere + 800 to support. In fact EE don't even need 800 tbh but the fact that they have it gives them a huge advantage.

09-01-2015, 22:35	#40
jchamier Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: This forum Posts: 3,392	Quote: Originally Posted by jabbamk1 You have to remember though that EE has more cumulative spectrum than Vodafone when you look at it. Plus the advantage that L1800 will be anywhere. In fact EE don't even need 800 tbh but the fact that they have it gives them a huge advantage. Gotcha. Looking forward to all EE masts having L1800

09-01-2015, 22:36	#41
jabbamk1 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, UK Posts: 8,759	Quote: Originally Posted by jchamier Gotcha. Looking forward to all EE masts having L1800 And yeh, agree with what you say about 2600.

09-01-2015, 22:41	#42
plymouthbloke1974 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Destination: Hard Brexit Posts: 6,368	In 18 months time there is going to be a massive difference in O2 and Vodafone 2G/3G it'll be unreal... To the levels that MBNL are at now. And it's only because of the recent MOU between the networks. 4G will still carry on as per now... By 2018 (yes I know it's a while away), I'm confident that all the UK networks will be some of the best in the EU

09-01-2015, 22:42	#43
jabbamk1 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, UK Posts: 8,759	Quote: Originally Posted by plymouthbloke1974 In 18 months time there is going to be a massive difference in O2 and Vodafone 2G/3G it'll be unreal... To the levels that MBNL are at now. And in just 11 years since launch, record time too...... /s

09-01-2015, 22:48	#44
plymouthbloke1974 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Destination: Hard Brexit Posts: 6,368	I'm being realistic, seeing how far they are behind against their recent agreement. At least I hope they will lol

09-01-2015, 22:49	#45
jabbamk1 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, UK Posts: 8,759	Quote: Originally Posted by plymouthbloke1974 I'm being realistic, seeing how far they are behind against their recent agreement. At least I hope they will lol No I agree with you. I don't think it'll ever be as good as MBNL speed and latency wise. But coverage wise it should get better.

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09-01-2015, 23:35	#46
japaul Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,662	Quote: Originally Posted by jabbamk1 You have to remember though that EE has more cumulative spectrum than Vodafone when you look at L800 & L1800. Plus the advantage that L1800 will be everywhere + 800 to support. In fact EE don't even need 800 tbh but the fact that they have it gives them a huge advantage. I posted this in a different thread but I think Vodafone's point will be that if you are in their 4G coverage speed will be fast enough for anything you are likely to need and it will be more robust than EE given it's mainly 800 v 1800 and what seems to be a comparable number of 4G sites in their "covered" areas. That's theory anyway. My usage is now split between the two and I'd put EE 4G ahead because of outright speed and at the moment the bigger general footprint (and I'm not even thinking about the current 3G coverage gulf). But whilst the speed advantage will probably remain, the coverage one will reduce and within the covered areas Vodafone's 4G availability is generally more solid. Still won't stop Rootmetrics putting them last though.

09-01-2015, 23:45	#47
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	The point about 2600 is an important one though. EE have a "shit load" (Jabba : ) don't they? This will give them a massive advantage with 1800. On a cell with 2600 and 1800, close handsets will choose 2600 over 1800 (LTE is clever like that!) so the bandwidth available on 1800 will increase massively for handsets further away.

09-01-2015, 23:49	#48
jabbamk1 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, UK Posts: 8,759	Quote: Originally Posted by DevonBloke EE have a "shit load" (Jabba : ) don't they? http://evergreenterrace.com.au/wp-co...Catburglar.gif You and I have this understanding that I can't explain.

09-01-2015, 23:58	#49
jabbamk1 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, UK Posts: 8,759	Quote: Originally Posted by japaul Still won't stop Rootmetrics putting them last though. Why do you guys keep making me post this.....? WHY! http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps75aca2bf.gif

10-01-2015, 00:04	#50
plymouthbloke1974 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Destination: Hard Brexit Posts: 6,368	I just hope Vodafone buck their ideas up with 3G in the SW. Not bothered about 4G at the moment. Mind you, 95% of my use is in a 3G area so can't complain too much...