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Old 24-11-2014, 20:29
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What a good plot for Ian to become obsessed with Cindy (sister of his beloved daughter and illegitimate daughter of the woman he once loved).

Mimi Keane is a strong actress and Cindy has always been portrayed as being far more knowing than her years. A budding relationship with Liam Butcher could be just the thing to start Ian's obsessions about her. As Cindy realises the hold she has over Ian she begins to manipulate him to her advantage building on the increasing tension between them...

A perfectly Nabacovian dilema...
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Old 24-11-2014, 21:10
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I don't think he's obsessed with her at all. He's just caring for her as a kind of surrogate father, the kind she doesn't have and needs right now.
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Old 24-11-2014, 21:15
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Not yet he's not but I think it could be a daring and dark storyline, especially if Cindy is aware of it and manipulates it
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Old 24-11-2014, 21:23
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Hadn't seen it that way at all. Must say the thought of it creeps me out.
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Old 24-11-2014, 21:39
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Hadn't seen it that way at all. Must say the thought of it creeps me out.
Could be a really dark and creepy story that hasn't been done before. Mimi Keane has that knowingness about her that I could believe her manipulating the situation and we know Ian has an unhealthy sexual attitude to women. He wants them to be saints or sinners and he always wants to own them in some way or other.
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Old 24-11-2014, 21:44
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I don't think this will happen.
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Old 24-11-2014, 21:57
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I don't think this will happen.
Well if they want to be gritty and gripping for the 21st century why not?
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Old 24-11-2014, 22:18
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Once Peter goes her presence in the Beale household will be kind of strange and out of place. As her half-brother Peter is her last link to that family now Lucy's dead and he's leaving. Ian isn't even her stepdad, Bobby isn't her brother and Jane is also no relation. Her moving in with the family in the first place was a bit weird but it could be explained that she wanted to be around her half-siblings (even if they didn't like her or spend time with her) but with them gone surely she would go back to her aunt and grandmother.
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Old 24-11-2014, 22:25
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Once Peter goes her presence in the Beale household will be kind of strange and out of place. As her half-brother Peter is her last link to that family now Lucy's dead and he's leaving. Ian isn't even her stepdad, Bobby isn't her brother and Jane is also no relation. Her moving in with the family in the first place was a bit weird but it could be explained that she wanted to be around her half-siblings (even if they didn't like her or spend time with her) but with them gone surely she would go back to her aunt and grandmother.
Not really. Ian cares for her even if he isn't of any relation to her and he enjoys having baby Beth around as he said tonight. It's not like they're arguing constantly and can't stand each other as if Ian was only putting up with her for Peter's sake as his half sister. Ian wants to support her and Beth and he knew how unhappy she was back at her aunt/grandmother's so unless Cindy wants to return there, there's no reason why she should. I think since their scenes when Cindy was in labour, Ian has opened his home to Cindy and I don't think that'll change any time soon.
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Old 24-11-2014, 22:48
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Not really. Ian cares for her even if he isn't of any relation to her and he enjoys having baby Beth around as he said tonight. It's not like they're arguing constantly and can't stand each other as if Ian was only putting up with her for Peter's sake as his half sister. Ian wants to support her and Beth and he knew how unhappy she was back at her aunt/grandmother's so unless Cindy wants to return there, there's no reason why she should. I think since their scenes when Cindy was in labour, Ian has opened his home to Cindy and I don't think that'll change any time soon.
So they should turn this story on it's head and create a very interesting and believable dynamic between the two. A story of obsessive passion and taboo.
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Old 24-11-2014, 22:54
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While I'm not sure of this exact story, really up for giving Mimi something to get her teeth into, she's so talented!
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Old 24-11-2014, 23:12
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While I'm not sure of this exact story, really up for giving Mimi something to get her teeth into, she's so talented!
She's a strong actress. I hope they recognise that, keep her and use her!
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Old 25-11-2014, 00:08
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Oh dear!!! Why on earth would you want such a sick storyline on our screens??
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Old 25-11-2014, 00:19
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No just No. Lolita the book you can only stomoch once. No not in EE. Really. No.
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Old 25-11-2014, 00:21
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Oh dear!!! Why on earth would you want such a sick storyline on our screens??
As against murder, betrayal and lies?

Ian is not a psychologically well man. Storylines didn't have to be politically correct in the past. Remember when EE portrayed stories on the edge. This would too and if done right could be merely suggestion...
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Old 25-11-2014, 00:30
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Ian's has a lot of issues with women and sex in general (mostly stemming from Original Cindy's antics) but I don't think it's borderline pedophilic, although I always found him paying Janine, a women he knew from a child for sex strange but otherwise I wouldn't like to see it, he maybe many things but Ian's kids was his life despite being lousy at times.

I can see him growing more attached to Beth as a substitute daughter, especially with the unresolved issues with Jane and her unable to have children.
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Old 25-11-2014, 00:31
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Ian hasn't shown any such inclination towards her so far and I don't think he will in the future. The show is getting it's grittiness back and I think such a relationship between the two would be going too far.
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Old 25-11-2014, 11:06
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I could probably have a great deal of fun with young Mimi Keene

Shortly before going to prison
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Old 25-11-2014, 11:09
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Ugh yuck, no.

Making Ian a paedophile will not only be gross but it will literally be the end of Ian Beale. There is no way a character could come back from that. It can only result in his exit.
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Old 25-11-2014, 18:14
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Ugh yuck, no.

Making Ian a paedophile will not only be gross but it will literally be the end of Ian Beale. There is no way a character could come back from that. It can only result in his exit.
Ian would not be made a Paedophile. Get the definitions right. A Paedophile is interested in prepubescent children...

Could be an excellent storyline and doesn't need to feature a sexual relationship just an obsession. Janine was very young when he paid her so he has form!

Do it DTC
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Old 25-11-2014, 18:15
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I could probably have a great deal of fun with young Mimi Keene

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She's beautiful, s'all I'm saying
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Old 25-11-2014, 18:25
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Unlikley to happen, am sure incest between step-relatives is illegal, not sure if it would still be termed as such now Cindy Sr is dead.
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Old 25-11-2014, 18:35
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Ian's has a lot of issues with women and sex in general (mostly stemming from Original Cindy's antics) but I don't think it's borderline pedophilic, although I always found him paying Janine, a women he knew from a child for sex strange but otherwise I wouldn't like to see it, he maybe many things but Ian's kids was his life despite being lousy at times.

I can see him growing more attached to Beth as a substitute daughter, especially with the unresolved issues with Jane and her unable to have children.
I can see the last paragraph being more of an issue long term. Cindy gets older, develops a proper relationship and wants to $ove out with Beth but Ian has got so attached to the baby/toddler that he doesn't want to let them go.

Not a full on custody case (ian would have no rights at all) and i don't think he'd be nasty enough to actually try and take her away from Cindy (he's not Phil) but there would still be issues.
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Old 25-11-2014, 18:39
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Unlikley to happen, am sure incest between step-relatives is illegal, not sure if it would still be termed as such now Cindy Sr is dead.
I don't think there is actually any legal relationship between them as i'm pretty sure Ian and Cindy were divorcing prior to her death.

I still don't like the idea though. It might be a good storyline for certain characters but I'd hate to see Ian taken down this route. I also think Cindy has grown up enough not to manipulate the situation if she did become aware of Ian developing feelings for her. All she has ever actually wanted is a full family to love and call her own - she just went about ingratiating herself into it the wrong way when she first arrived. She sees Ian as a father figure and would be utterly creeped out and disappointed her family had gone srong if it turned sexual.
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Old 25-11-2014, 18:49
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Unlikley to happen, am sure incest between step-relatives is illegal, not sure if it would still be termed as such now Cindy Sr is dead.
Its not incest and there doesnt have to be a relationship
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