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Whether Currie has any morals or not, whether she had an affair or not has absolutely nothing to do with this. The fact Kendra slept with Hugh Heffner has nothing to do with this. Somebody disagreed with somebody else's opinion and the other person hurled disgusting language and insults about. That's disgraceful behaviour and shows a lack of life skills.
I'm quite happy to agree with somebody even if I can't stand them. The problem is people see Edwina Currie, Tory adulteress or Kendra Yankee slag and that clouds their opinion on this debacle. |
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She had an affair, millions do sadly, but it's slightly different to prostituting yourself for fame and money IMO.
As for having an affair - yes millions do, but most don't do it with the Prime Minister and then write about it in their book for what.............oh yes fame and money! Edwina was not a great MP and her main claim to fame in politics was almost bringing the British egg industry to its knees because of one of her stupid comments. Strange that she now feels she can take the moral high ground! |
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Edwina has always prostituted herself for fame and money. It makes me laugh that she is taking the high ground with Kendra for being a reality star when she herself is saying it on a Reality TV Programme! Not the first she has been on either, Wife Swap, Come Dine With Me and Hell's Kitchen as well.
As for having an affair - yes millions do, but most don't do it with the Prime Minister and then write about it in their book for what.............oh yes fame and money! Edwina was not a great MP and her main claim to fame in politics was almost bringing the British egg industry to its knees because of one of her stupid comments. Strange that she now feels she can take the moral high ground! I didn't mind her at first but she's become a liability in a camp where there's no option but to rely on others. |
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It wasn't a stupid comment thought was it and neither did Edwina make a stupid comment tonight. Kendra exploded and showed herself to be foul mouthed and aggressive in addition to being unable to challenge herself and bring back food for her campmates.
I didn't mind her at first but she's become a liability in a camp where there's no option but to rely on others. |
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If you make philosophical statements, be prepared to back it up if some one doesn't agree. All she did was swear at Edwina. Great television though.
American are brought up with a constitutional right to think loads of nutty things and nobody dares to question it. There are many in California with spouting this motivational claptrap and like the American dream itself - IT DOESN'T WORK! All this ME ME ME can be the best I can be never ever takes into consideration that there are others on the planet and everyone can't have everything all their way as it clashes with what others want/need/demand. Their stupid mantra of yes you can be the best ever doesn't work as if everyone was the best at something, there would be no secondary people to do all the dirty work on minimum wage. It's the same for Conservatism here where the mantra is to better yourself at any cost and no matter who you shit on to get there - If everyone did that, then the wages of top jobs would fall as everyone could do them and you would still have no one to serve you in Asda. It's the massive flaw in their argument that they never address: So in this case she had a screaming fit to cover up the fact that it's all airy fairy bollocks! |
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No, Edwina was not right.
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As I've said before neither of them has morals but people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones Edwina lied about her affair whilst being in the government while us the tax payers paid her to screw Major do you really think she has any morals I certantly dont
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They are sharing a camp and not discoursing in Kendra's living room. Any one of them has a right to make a comment and Edwina made hers. Kendra exploded for no other reason than being challenged on her opinion. She made herself look if not foolish someone who can't control her language or her temper.
Yes it was a bit of that but a lot more to do with the fact that she is well rehearsed in reality TV and was simply ensuring that she dominated the air time. Unfortunately the US contestants on UK reality shows seem to do this all the time .........they bore me to death. |
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Any one else see edwinas comments made on itv2?
When Michael was saying he found her interesting she said 'oh like looking at something in a zoo' Ouch. .. |
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Kendra lost it. The swearing and loss of credibility looked bad. But I expect many think that was a winning strategy., shame as I quite liked her.
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They are sharing a camp and not discoursing in Kendra's living room. Any one of them has a right to make a comment and Edwina made hers. Kendra exploded for no other reason than being challenged on her opinion. She made herself look if not foolish someone who can't control her language or her temper.
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I really don't think we paid her to have an affair, she had a job which she was paid for, the affair was something completely different and we have no right to judge. People have affairs in all walks of life for al kinds of reasons. I think the moral laxity in Kendra's case is Hugh Hefner who obviously thinks its okay to take an 18 year old and stick her in a den of women and occasionally screw her. But we're not allowed to say anything because he has money.
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agree I think I would have said the same as Edwina if I had been forced to listen to her droning on about "you should always put yourself first" what utter rubbish - and shouting shut the f*** up etc. is just such a childish way to respond. Nadia is younger than her but much more mature than Kendra
![]() Edwina just butted in in a personal and judgemental way, arguing like a politician, trying to trip her up by taking the phrase literally and not trying to understand what Kendra was actually saying. Edwina talks about not being selfish, but thought nothing of nicking Kendra's socks earler and didn't offer to return them even when it was pointed out to her that they only had two pairs of socks. Actions speak louder than words. |
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If you make philosophical statements, be prepared to back it up if some one doesn't agree. All she did was swear at Edwina. Great television though.
Also, unless i misheard, Edwina did say sorry, that she hadn't intended to upset her reasonably quickly (can't believe i'm defending Edwina Currie) but Kendra was in to much of a temper to accept it. Throwing the word heartless about when that was effectively Currie's point - that sometimes you have to put others welfare and feelings before your own when making life decisions. |
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She said "you should never live your life for other people" - she didn't mean she wouldn't consider her family, she meant she wouldn't be influenced by what other people thought of what she does.
Edwina just butted in in a personal and judgemental way, arguing like a politician, trying to trip her up by taking the phrase literally and not trying to understand what Kendra was actually saying. Edwina talks about not being selfish, but thought nothing of nicking Kendra's socks earler and didn't offer to return them even when it was pointed out to her that they only had two pairs of socks. Actions speak louder than words. |
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She said "you should never live your life for other people" - she didn't mean she wouldn't consider her family, she meant she wouldn't be influenced by what other people thought of what she does.
Edwina just butted in in a personal and judgemental way, arguing like a politician, trying to trip her up by taking the phrase literally and not trying to understand what Kendra was actually saying. Edwina talks about not being selfish, but thought nothing of nicking Kendra's socks earler and didn't offer to return them even when it was pointed out to her that they only had two pairs of socks. Actions speak louder than words. |
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How do you know what she meant? she didn't say that - also have you got any evidence she nicked her socks?
Well, she admitted to having three pairs and then said nothing when the others said they were only issued with 2.
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Well, she admitted to having three pairs and then said nothing when the others said they were only issued with 2.
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Kendra lost all credibility when she resorted to using foul language in an aggressive manner towards Edwinda whether Edwina was in the right or not.
Kendra showed herself up to be a very nasty, horrible person after her foul mouthed tirade. In my opinion she went completely over the top and most certainly could have handled the situation in a completely different manner. |
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This may be the first and last time I will ever say this, but Edwina had a point. Her manner was obnoxious, though. Then again, Kendra was equally obnoxious in a different way. I think they both shot themselves in the foot - more so Kendra, because nobody expects Edwina Currie to be agreeable anyway. Now that the CIA task is over, Edwina is doing what she's been employed to do.
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I think Edwina was right but she went about saying so in the wrong way. I also think Kendra has probably had to try and justify her lifestyle for so long that it's probably a bit of bravado on her part. But, as Edwina says you have to take others into consideration when making decisions, especially if you have children.
Edit - also, where were Edwina's husband and kids and Norma Major when she was sleeping with John Major? Was she thinking about her family when she made that decision? She's a hypocrite. |
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As I've said before neither of them has morals but people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones Edwina lied about her affair whilst being in the government while us the tax payers paid her to screw Major do you really think she has any morals I certantly dont
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Of course Currie was right. It was hardly a difficult issue to judge (Kendra's own country is the most noted for its emphasis on the crucial importance of the concept of civic virtue, for goodness sake!). What was pathetic was Sykes and a couple of others eagerly playing the game of taking sides for camera effect. If they'd just quietly and tactfully let Kendra know she was being silly, she might have learnt something, but now they've indulged her over that absurd tantrum she'll do it again and again.
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Of course Currie was right. It was hardly a difficult issue to judge (Kendra's own country is the most noted for its emphasis on the crucial importance of the concept of civic virtue, for goodness sake!). What was pathetic was Sykes and a couple of others eagerly playing the game of taking sides for camera effect. If they'd just quietly and tactfully let Kendra know she was being silly, she might have learnt something, but now they've indulged her over that absurd tantrum she'll do it again and again.
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Edwina has always prostituted herself for fame and money. It makes me laugh that she is taking the high ground with Kendra for being a reality star when she herself is saying it on a Reality TV Programme! Not the first she has been on either, Wife Swap, Come Dine With Me and Hell's Kitchen as well.
As for having an affair - yes millions do, but most don't do it with the Prime Minister and then write about it in their book for what.............oh yes fame and money! Edwina was not a great MP and her main claim to fame in politics was almost bringing the British egg industry to its knees because of one of her stupid comments. Strange that she now feels she can take the moral high ground! In fact even if I disagreed with Edwina I think I'd be disappointed with a politician on there if they didn't show some conviction with their points of view whether they're right or wrong. |
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