What an awful woman. Just starts laying into Kendra without even understanding what she was talking about. Typical superior politician. Awful person, get her out. Kendra isn't perfect and has a bizarre life but she didn't deserve that self-righteous nonsense from a politician who has no right to lecture anyone.
Edwina is awful
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Totally disagree.
Edwina utterly understood the situation. Kendra was self absorbed and lacked any self reflection.
Edwina utterly understood the situation. Kendra was self absorbed and lacked any self reflection.
Kendra is a strange girl with an extraordinary life, a bit mixed up, but that does not justify the awful superior Tory grande Madame act. Horrible superior person, ever heard of kindness and understanding of people who are different? No, you just bray at them like a Tory donkey.
I also disagree,. Is Edwina not allowed to express an opinion then? Iwhat she said did not warrant the tide of abuse that came from Kendra's mouth. She really showed herself in her true colours. If anyone else had said what Edwina said would that have been alright as they weren't a Tory? Kendra is a reality 'star' who thinks she's better than anyone else, well, she isn't!
That stream of abuse from Kendra's mouth was not justified on any level.
What an horrific outburst.
How could anyone possibly support that sort of behaviour.
Disgusting
What an horrific outburst.
How could anyone possibly support that sort of behaviour.
Disgusting
Originally Posted by labasheedy:
“That stream of abuse from Kendra's mouth was not justified on any level.
What an horrific outburst.
How could anyone possibly support that sort of behaviour.
Disgusting”
“That stream of abuse from Kendra's mouth was not justified on any level.
What an horrific outburst.
How could anyone possibly support that sort of behaviour.
Disgusting”
^^^^^^
This
I also tend to disagree. Within any argument there are always two sides. Kendra was discussing her life and philosophies within her own life. After she stated she does not live her life for others and chooses to make her own decisions based on herself, Edwina decided she was going to give her own opinions, disagreeing with Kendra.
Now - you can argue Edwina could have just not intervened with her opinions, but it isn't right to say she cannot have her opinions and views, but by all means you can disagree with them. That's a part of Politics!
I tend to lie on Edwina's side, as the way Kendra reacted was quite awful. And as Edwina rightfully said: 'people who begin to swear in a debate or argument are just those who cannot correctly articulate and debate with another'. This is Kendra in a nutshell. She relies on swearing as an offence, her way of showing she is angry. Edwina will show she is angry by using her vocabulary, using passive-aggressiveness and expressing herself more openly without the use of derogatory words and swearing.
Interesting to hear Kendra call Edwina 'the devil'. I think that a little unfair. By all means, Edwina Currie is a tough, challenging and sometimes over-zealous debater who wants to give her views - but she's hardly evil nor the devil for doing so!
Now - you can argue Edwina could have just not intervened with her opinions, but it isn't right to say she cannot have her opinions and views, but by all means you can disagree with them. That's a part of Politics!
I tend to lie on Edwina's side, as the way Kendra reacted was quite awful. And as Edwina rightfully said: 'people who begin to swear in a debate or argument are just those who cannot correctly articulate and debate with another'. This is Kendra in a nutshell. She relies on swearing as an offence, her way of showing she is angry. Edwina will show she is angry by using her vocabulary, using passive-aggressiveness and expressing herself more openly without the use of derogatory words and swearing.
Interesting to hear Kendra call Edwina 'the devil'. I think that a little unfair. By all means, Edwina Currie is a tough, challenging and sometimes over-zealous debater who wants to give her views - but she's hardly evil nor the devil for doing so!
Kendra totally didn't understand the contradiction of her argument
- everyone decides their own life
- but she can control Edwina when challenged? tell someone else when to sleep/go to bed? Calls Edwina the devil for having her own opinion? How controlling!
Kendra is just not used to having her "inspirational" drivel challenged in LA
- everyone decides their own life
- but she can control Edwina when challenged? tell someone else when to sleep/go to bed? Calls Edwina the devil for having her own opinion? How controlling!
Kendra is just not used to having her "inspirational" drivel challenged in LA
^^^^^^^ Totally agree with this - I think its fair to say Kendra just picked the wrong lady to debate with on philosophy and public service
Originally Posted by Menelaus:
“Kendra is a strange girl with an extraordinary life, a bit mixed up, but that does not justify the awful superior Tory grande Madame act. Horrible superior person, ever heard of kindness and understanding of people who are different? No, you just bray at them like a Tory donkey.”
“Kendra is a strange girl with an extraordinary life, a bit mixed up, but that does not justify the awful superior Tory grande Madame act. Horrible superior person, ever heard of kindness and understanding of people who are different? No, you just bray at them like a Tory donkey.”
a bit mixed up?
That's what you say about Kendra's behaviour?
You reckon that was a suitable response to Edwina's difference of opinion?
Not in my world it isn't.
"Braying like a Tory Donkey" - that's just nonsense.
Originally Posted by Menelaus:
“What an awful woman. Just starts laying into Kendra without even understanding what she was talking about. Typical superior politician. Awful person, get her out. Kendra isn't perfect and has a bizarre life but she didn't deserve that self-righteous nonsense from a politician who has no right to lecture anyone.”
“What an awful woman. Just starts laying into Kendra without even understanding what she was talking about. Typical superior politician. Awful person, get her out. Kendra isn't perfect and has a bizarre life but she didn't deserve that self-righteous nonsense from a politician who has no right to lecture anyone.”
I would have had some sympathy for Kendra if she'd argued her point instead of laying into Edwina with a four-letter tyrade. Behaving like that just means you lost control.
Kendra is totally self-absorbed. She doesn't care about feeding the camp mates, in fact she's already told us she is not going to try again tomorrow and has a horrible foul mouth. She is a perfect example of what reality TV can do to people. Go back to America - and stay there.
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“If there we nominations Edwina would get most of them”
“If there we nominations Edwina would get most of them”
Kendra would get more - awful woman with a foul mouth
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“If there we nominations Edwina would get most of them”
“If there we nominations Edwina would get most of them”
As if it isn't enough like BB as it is!
Going by the last 2 winners of CBB, Gary and Jim, both received the most nominations from their housemates and both went on to win. So Edwina for the win?
Originally Posted by bookclub10:
“As if it isn't enough like BB as it is!
Going by the last 2 winners of CBB, Gary and Jim, both received the most nominations from their housemates and both went on to win. So Edwina for the win?”
“As if it isn't enough like BB as it is!
Going by the last 2 winners of CBB, Gary and Jim, both received the most nominations from their housemates and both went on to win. So Edwina for the win?”
Only if she does a Major trial.
Originally Posted by jeanoj:
“Kendra would get more - awful woman with a foul mouth”
“Kendra would get more - awful woman with a foul mouth”
Agree with you jeanoj (a voice of reason- hope all gd with ur loved ones) xx -
You'd think an experienced politician would know when to 'shut it'. It wasn't her conversation and she chose to interpret it in her own way. Then she wouldn't let it drop...
I completely agree with you. I don't like Kendra at all but I'm not going to sit back and be okay with her letting her get a load of abuse when none was needed. Edwina is a stuck-up, self-righteous, nasty piece of work. She stuck her oar in just because she thinks she can. Guess what love? Being a politician doesn't mean you're it. She should stop lording it about. She expects respect off others but doesn't think twice about respecting others herself. She's pure evil and I want her OUT.
The situation is twofold here,Edwina has a problem with her ego and is too self opinionated she had a precarious political career,Kendra has a foul mouth and a bad temper,she has been in some bad company in Hefners harem,not sure how she handles her reality TV programmes but if she is as tactless as portrayed here then there is no chance of her changing,this is an unfortunate clash of personalaties that has reared its ugly head.
Originally Posted by Menelaus:
“What an awful woman. Just starts laying into Kendra without even understanding what she was talking about.”
“What an awful woman. Just starts laying into Kendra without even understanding what she was talking about.”
I am sure she understood Kendra's WORDS. It's just that they made no sense. And I can't see why you think Kendra has the right to lecture the entire camp at some length, but that no one else has the right to put a different point of view. Do you think that when Kendra speaks, the others must sit in silent worship?
Originally Posted by Menelaus:
“Kendra is a strange girl with an extraordinary life, a bit mixed up, but that does not justify the awful superior Tory grande Madame act. Horrible superior person, ever heard of kindness and understanding of people who are different? No, you just bray at them like a Tory donkey.”
“Kendra is a strange girl with an extraordinary life, a bit mixed up, but that does not justify the awful superior Tory grande Madame act. Horrible superior person, ever heard of kindness and understanding of people who are different? No, you just bray at them like a Tory donkey.”
Nice colourful language. Now describe Kendra's f-word filled shouting with the same attenton to detail please.
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“If there we nominations Edwina would get most of them”
“If there we nominations Edwina would get most of them”
She would probably come second, if that is what you mean.
Originally Posted by Evannah:
“I completely agree with you. I don't like Kendra at all but I'm not going to sit back and be okay with her letting her get a load of abuse when none was needed. Edwina is a stuck-up, self-righteous, nasty piece of work. She stuck her oar in just because she thinks she can. Guess what love? Being a politician doesn't mean you're it. She should stop lording it about. She expects respect off others but doesn't think twice about respecting others herself. She's pure evil and I want her OUT.”
“I completely agree with you. I don't like Kendra at all but I'm not going to sit back and be okay with her letting her get a load of abuse when none was needed. Edwina is a stuck-up, self-righteous, nasty piece of work. She stuck her oar in just because she thinks she can. Guess what love? Being a politician doesn't mean you're it. She should stop lording it about. She expects respect off others but doesn't think twice about respecting others herself. She's pure evil and I want her OUT.”
She didn't get any abuse ...........she threw plenty at Edwina for simply voicing an opinion.
She is a vacuous, vain rather pointless individual - there really was no need to hurl foul mouthed abuse at someone for nothing at all.
She is deserving of the derision being thrown at her on here.
The problem was that Edwina is obviously someone who relishes a debate. Not just because she is a politician - she hasn't done anything in politics for years - but because she is a confident, opinionated person, a bit of a rent-a-gob, someone who genuinely enjoys putting a view and standing up for it. So when she heard Kendra saying something she thought was nonsensical, she sat up and expostulated.
But Kendra's background is obviously not that at all. She is someone famous for being 'herself', not for her thoughts on issues of the day. I should imagine that people who work with her are extremely deferential, as American tv tends to be to its stars. She is used to being listened to with respect and admiration. When EC sat up and contradicted something she said, she didn't think, as Melanie, say would certainly have done, "let's see if I can defend my view"; she thought - why is that NASTY woman not agreeing with me?
I find it a bit depressing that so many people are defending Kendra's part in this and seeking to put all the blame on Edwina. I am not even slightly fond of Edwina, but Kendra's foul-mouthed tantrum was not even slightly justified by anything Edwina said to her. And it will do her no harm at all to learn that silent admiration is not the only possible response to everything she says.
But Kendra's background is obviously not that at all. She is someone famous for being 'herself', not for her thoughts on issues of the day. I should imagine that people who work with her are extremely deferential, as American tv tends to be to its stars. She is used to being listened to with respect and admiration. When EC sat up and contradicted something she said, she didn't think, as Melanie, say would certainly have done, "let's see if I can defend my view"; she thought - why is that NASTY woman not agreeing with me?
I find it a bit depressing that so many people are defending Kendra's part in this and seeking to put all the blame on Edwina. I am not even slightly fond of Edwina, but Kendra's foul-mouthed tantrum was not even slightly justified by anything Edwina said to her. And it will do her no harm at all to learn that silent admiration is not the only possible response to everything she says.
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