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Edwina is awful
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hoppyuppy
26-11-2014
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“I have watched it back, all of it and the others were waffling like fools trying to prevent an argument. Clarification of what? There was no other interpretation other than the one Edwina questioned.I can't stand Edwina but there is no justification for such an OTT foul mouthed tirade.
If Kendra is going to preach at any group of people and has any self belief she needs to grow up and discuss it like an adult. She was spouting nothing more than adolescent psycho babble and self justifying nonsense.”

Hunger can do that to a person. Nothing to get hung up on, Edwina has made an entire career out of it.
anne_666
26-11-2014
Originally Posted by hoppyuppy:
“If Edwina had an ounce of class, she wouldn't be there in the first place.

She has invalidated her own opinion, apart from greed and self publicity, why is she there?”

Originally Posted by hoppyuppy:
“Hunger can do that to a person. Nothing to get hung up on, Edwina has made an entire career out of it.”

You're watching this? Why?

Anyone who does this show hasn't an ounce of class according to you.
hoppyuppy
26-11-2014
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“You're watching this? Why?

Anyone who does this show hasn't an ounce of class according to you.”

I like watching 8 out of 10 of these, one is meh and the other I totally dislike. Why shouldn't I be watching it?
Mutter
26-11-2014
Originally Posted by Menelaus:
“What an awful woman. Just starts laying into Kendra without even understanding what she was talking about. Typical superior politician. Awful person, get her out. Kendra isn't perfect and has a bizarre life but she didn't deserve that self-righteous nonsense from a politician who has no right to lecture anyone.”

I bet you have no idea of politics.
You think that Lib whoever they have brown nosed after, are a middle ground between Conservative and Labour.
No , Liberals are so far left they are more to the left than Labour.

Bet you didn't know that Menelaus.
Reality Sucks
26-11-2014
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“I have watched it back, all of it and the others were waffling like fools trying to prevent an argument. Clarification of what? There was no other interpretation other than the one Edwina questioned.I can't stand Edwina but there is no justification for such an OTT foul mouthed tirade.
If Kendra is going to preach at any group of people and has any self belief (which she very clearly hasn't) she needs to grow up and discuss it like an adult. She was spouting nothing more than adolescent psycho babble and self justifying nonsense.”



First BIB - There clearly was another interpretation of what she was saying as numerous posters have pointed out, Perhaps you, like Edwina, believe that your perception is the only one that matters?

2nd BIB - Seems to be the battle cry of all Edwina's supporters.
Cally's mum
26-11-2014
Originally Posted by Reality Sucks:
“You don't need to be a mind reader, just emotionally intelligent, which Edwina clearly isn't. She grabbed hold of Kendra's words, mis-interpereted what she was saying and like a bull in a china shop, talked over and swept aside the clarification that Mel and Nadia were trying to offer (and if you watch it back you'll see that Kendra was still smiling and agreeing with them that indeed, that was what she'd meant) It was only when Edwina kept repeating "You're a mother" in a way that implied not a good one, that she retaliated.”

Well, apparently you are reading Edwina's mind as to her motivation. You may be right. You may be wrong. But you are quoting this opinion almost as fact and unless you are privy to the innermost thought processes of the camp mates you have absolutely nothing but guesswork going for you.

No one knows Edwina's motivation but her. It still does not excuse Kendra's rude and shocking tantrum.
Reality Sucks
26-11-2014
Originally Posted by Cally's mum:
“Well, apparently you are reading Edwina's mind as to her motivation. You may be right. You may be wrong. But you are quoting this opinion almost as fact and unless you are privy to the innermost thought processes of the camp mates you have absolutely nothing but guesswork going for you.

No one knows Edwina's motivation but her. It still does not excuse Kendra's rude and shocking tantrum.”

I didn't discuss Edwina's motivation, only her actions as I saw them. ie when Mel and Nadia were trying to explain what Kendra meant and she just wouldn't listen. Also her tone of voice was confrontational.

regarding the BIB - That applies to everyone on here. I'm stating my opinion, just the same as you are.
hrh7
26-11-2014
For me to find myself on Edwina's side says it all about Kendra, imo
yellowlabbie
26-11-2014
Originally Posted by hrh7:
“For me to find myself on Edwina's side says it all about Kendra, imo”

Oh and me too, I really do not like Edwina but I am on her side in this argument.
anne_666
26-11-2014
Originally Posted by Reality Sucks:
“First BIB - There clearly was another interpretation of what she was saying as numerous posters have pointed out, Perhaps you, like Edwina, believe that your perception is the only one that matters?

2nd BIB - Seems to be the battle cry of all Edwina's supporters.”

2nd BIB no I can't stand the woman.

Even after listening to the others trying to interpret the self justifying psycho babble, it still meant the same. What did it mean to you?

Kendra is a very unhappy woman, clearly lacking in self worth, hence her reaction and I feel sorry for her..As for the others I think they know what her temper is like and they don't want to disagree with her.
Cats_Eyes
26-11-2014
Originally Posted by Cally's mum:
“You know, your constant name-calling of Edwina really belittles and in fact negates every argument you make. It's immature and you should be above that kind of behaviour. Only children in the playground or truculent teenagers resort to petty insults of this sort.

And I would like to reiterate that Kendra is NOT courageous in having what amounted to a soddin' tantrum in the middle of the jungle and in the process upsetting all the other camp mates and ruining their 10 star meal. Which they themselves spoke about in the BT and to each other on screen.

For the record, I don't like Edwina and I think she didn't cover herself in glory in this situation, either. But Kendra massively over-reacted and behaved like a spoiled child. And it's a sad, sad reflection on society that so many people are looking at her as some kind of heroine for such obnoxious behaviour. I honestly despair of mankind sometimes.”

Indeed so - very well said
Cats_Eyes
26-11-2014
Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“YOu were doing no such thing. You were doing nothing but enjoying a lot of infantile name-calling. Apart from anything else, it is against the rules of the forum, rightly, to post nothing but childish abuse.

There are no signs at all of Edwina looking for 'a victim', don't be silly. Your reaction to her is so unjustified and over the top, I can only imagine that you have an issue in your own life with someone she reminds you of: older women, perhaps, or older women who assertively express opinions.

Kendra has not been 'pushed forward'. People almost never vote for older people to do trials.


YOu sound off your head.

She seems a likeable person to me. Whyever do you think she is awful?


I don't think Michael admires her at all. I think he is dryly amused by her, and he is too much the professional to be caught bitching in the bush telegraph.”

I have to say Wonkey I always enjoy reading your post and usually agree with most of them . Never more than with this one with the compilation of the rubbish - and nasty - comments that has been spouted by other posts
CaroUK
26-11-2014
Originally Posted by Reality Sucks:
“You don't need to be a mind reader, just emotionally intelligent, which Edwina clearly isn't. She grabbed hold of Kendra's words, mis-interpereted what she was saying and like a bull in a china shop, talked over and swept aside the clarification that Mel and Nadia were trying to offer (and if you watch it back you'll see that Kendra was still smiling and agreeing with them that indeed, that was what she'd meant) It was only when Edwina kept repeating "You're a mother" in a way that implied not a good one, that she retaliated.”

Au contraire - Edwina is very definitely emotionally intelligent, as well as a very clever Oxford graduate.

She was there listening to "the world according to Kendra" for the entirety whereas we were treated to a very highly edited version of the events and the actual speech.

She had clearly had enough of the self satisfaction and "aren't I wonderful?" drivel being spouted by Kendra, and when she listened to yet another load of codswallop she called her on it. I get the impression that Edwina doesn't suffer fools gladly, and she had probably sat/ lain there listening to the very unintelligent Kendra droning on for far too long. She was also woman enough to say sorry afterwards - something we have not yet seen or heard Kendra do!

As an ex politician Edwina is well used to debating, and probably was trying to get Kendra to confirm that she really meant what she was actually saying, but Kendra seemed so shocked to be challenged at all, that she went off on one and it escalated from there. I am also sure that Edwina is the type of person that once she's said what she wants, she is mature enough to move on and not keep harping about it, and definitely doesn't hold the hard feelings Kendra clearly does!
MaisieMooMoo
26-11-2014
Originally Posted by Cats_Eyes:
“I have to say Wonkey I always enjoy reading your post and usually agree with most of them . Never more than with this one with the compilation of the rubbish - and nasty - comments that has been spouted by other posts”

Me too. WD's posts in the whole Jungle forum have been my favourites.
Cellomad
26-11-2014
Originally Posted by CaroUK:
“Au contraire - Edwina is very definitely emotionally intelligent, as well as a very clever Oxford graduate.

She was there listening to "the world according to Kendra" for the entirety whereas we were treated to a very highly edited version of the events and the actual speech.

She had clearly had enough of the self satisfaction and "aren't I wonderful?" drivel being spouted by Kendra, and when she listened to yet another load of codswallop she called her on it. I get the impression that Edwina doesn't suffer fools gladly, and she had probably sat/ lain there listening to the very unintelligent Kendra droning on for far too long. She was also woman enough to say sorry afterwards - something we have not yet seen or heard Kendra do!

As an ex politician Edwina is well used to debating, and probably was trying to get Kendra to confirm that she really meant what she was actually saying, but Kendra seemed so shocked to be challenged at all, that she went off on one and it escalated from there. I am also sure that Edwina is the type of person that once she's said what she wants, she is mature enough to move on and not keep harping about it, and definitely doesn't hold the hard feelings Kendra clearly does!”

Good post - I agree with what you say. Edwina might be an ex MP and the wrong politics for me but I do think she is an alright person - I've thought this ever since the famous "eggs" incident !!!
Reality Sucks
26-11-2014
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“2nd BIB no I can't stand the woman.

Even after listening to the others trying to interpret the self justifying psycho babble, it still meant the same. What did it mean to you?

Kendra is a very unhappy woman, clearly lacking in self worth, hence her reaction and I feel sorry for her..As for the others I think they know what her temper is like and they don't want to disagree with her.”

Or maybe her nerves were a bit shot. Edwina Curry's voice is enough to put anyone on edge
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