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Best/Worst candidate remaining?
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Alex_McNamee
25-11-2014
I quite like Katie, as even though she's trailed off the last few weeks, she managed to stay hidden and never gets brought back (like Jemma earlier in the series, only she got picked on)

That said, there's some poor candidates still remaining, but I'd have to say Daniel is the worst, as he's done nothing right except selling in week one.

Opinions?
george.millman
25-11-2014
Originally Posted by Alex_McNamee:
“I quite like Katie, as even though she's trailed off the last few weeks, she managed to stay hidden and never gets brought back (like Jemma earlier in the series, only she got picked on)

That said, there's some poor candidates still remaining, but I'd have to say Daniel is the worst, as he's done nothing right except selling in week one.

Opinions?”

Katie, Solomon and Roisin for me. And Felipe at a stretch, because we haven't seen enough of him to judge, but he seems to have done well whenever we have.

I would like to point out with regards to your comparison with Jemma that she was actually on the winning team every week up until the task she got fired, so it wasn't so much that she managed to stay hidden. We don't know what her teammates thought of her - they never had a chance to scapegoat her. Bearing that in mind, it makes what Katie has done more impressive, because she has been on a fair share of losing teams.
Sherlock_Holmes
25-11-2014
Originally Posted by george.millman:
“I would like to point out with regards to your comparison with Jemma that she was actually on the winning team every week up until the task she got fired, so it wasn't so much that she managed to stay hidden. We don't know what her teammates thought of her - they never had a chance to scapegoat her. Bearing that in mind, it makes what Katie has done more impressive, because she has been on a fair share of losing teams.”

Think that Katie seems to be following the same arc as Stella (she who must not be named). Can also see her finding herself in the boardroom in the last few tasks.

Though she wouldn't be my winner, I do think that she has been given a winners arc (Solomon and Roisin would be too obvious at this point).
george.millman
25-11-2014
Originally Posted by Sherlock_Holmes:
“Think that Katie seems to be following the same arc as Stella (she who must not be named). Can also see her finding herself in the boardroom in the last few tasks.

Though she wouldn't be my winner, I do think that she has been given a winners arc (Solomon and Roisin would be too obvious at this point).”

I think Katie's PM win was far better than Stella's. Stella really wasn't a great PM on Task 2, in my opinion. She didn't seem to be able to make a decision and stick to it; she refused to be a model, and then changed her mind. She put her foot down and said she wanted Jamie to pitch and not Chris - we didn't see what happened after that, but Chris was the one pitching so she clearly hadn't stuck to what she said, which is a shame because I thought Jamie would have done a better job. And their product was horrible, and would have lost had Laura agreed to exclusivity from Boots for the Book-Eeze.

I know everyone seemed to think she was amazing, but I feel like they just thought that because the boys did such a poor job led by Dan the previous week. Stella did a better job than Dan, but to be fair it would be hard to do a worse one.
meglosmurmurs
25-11-2014
I find Roisin to be the one I would most want to work with. She seems very rational and has a great temperament but she's no pushover and straight-to-the-point.

The 3 worst would be Daniel, Mark and James.
Daniel is a total mess but I find him strangely amusing and fairly harmless, while I wouldn't be able to trust Mark at all. I feel like I'd be watching my back every minute of the task.
The overall worst though is probably James, as he really hasn't done anything too impressive, his energy is far too OTT and irritating, and he's also quite rude and disrespectful.
thenetworkbabe
26-11-2014
Originally Posted by Sherlock_Holmes:
“Think that Katie seems to be following the same arc as Stella (she who must not be named). Can also see her finding herself in the boardroom in the last few tasks.

Though she wouldn't be my winner, I do think that she has been given a winners arc (Solomon and Roisin would be too obvious at this point).”

Not sure when the winners ark becomes visible .Luisa didn't get much credit from Sugar for her first PM win last year , but that task was rewritten by the end to show basic business sense - what was clear at the time, but ignored. Leah was very quiet for most of the series - until one boardroom speech was signposted as her starting a run. If she was a lawyer she would have been sacked for speaking too well. Neil was terrible most weeks until he got a journey story and praise for his silly motivational speech . He was built up ever after for a win, or a fall. Luisa had better final tasks and had fewer problems with her choices for the final presentation task, but Leah still won - helped by her photographic memory. .

Katie has a strong PM marker laid down and various boxes ticked and negative boxes left unticked. Roisin misses the PM marker, but has strong performances. Solomon hasn't done much - his PM win wasn't great . He made one good business decision that Ella didn't have the option of matching. He's done litle memorable since. But he may be offering the equivalent of Tom's nail file and he's vastly more competent on task than Tom.
george.millman
26-11-2014
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Not sure when the winners ark becomes visible .Luisa didn't get much credit from Sugar for her first PM win last year , but that task was rewritten by the end to show basic business sense - what was clear at the time, but ignored. Leah was very quiet for most of the series - until one boardroom speech was signposted as her starting a run. If she was a lawyer she would have been sacked for speaking too well. Neil was terrible most weeks until he got a journey story and praise for his silly motivational speech . He was built up ever after for a win, or a fall. Luisa had better final tasks and had fewer problems with her choices for the final presentation task, but Leah still won - helped by her photographic memory. .

Katie has a strong PM marker laid down and various boxes ticked and negative boxes left unticked. Roisin misses the PM marker, but has strong performances. Solomon hasn't done much - his PM win wasn't great . He made one good business decision that Ella didn't have the option of matching. He's done litle memorable since. But he may be offering teh equivalent of Tom's nail file and he's vastly more competent on task than Tom.”

I'm not sure I agree about Leah - she was quiet around the middle of the series, but at the start she was very noticeable. She led the sub-team on the girls' side in Week 1, and their half of the team did considerably better than Jaz's. In Week 1, she was the likely looking winner. That went down a bit as the series went on, but came back up towards the end.

Also, I don't think anyone has ever been fired for speaking too well. If anything, the lawyers they have had have more often been fired for not speaking well enough - Karen Bremner, for example, was fired in part because she hadn't made an effort to defend herself, and it was a similar situation with barrister Nicholas in Series 4. Lord Sugar likes people who can speak well. It is commonly known that he didn't really get on with the lawyers that he has had, but in fairness before Leah came along the same could be said for doctors. The two previous doctors he has had (Sophie and Shibby) were both out rather early, and he commented that he didn't think doctors should get involved with business decisions. Leah is proof that it is possible to overcome those prejudices. I wonder if there will ever be a lawyer who wins?
BMLisa
26-11-2014
Roisin best
James worst

He's unbelievably lucky to win as PM.

I like Daniel and considering the edit he's had he either has a dynamite business plan or Nick and Karen are seeing something very different to us.
Reggie Rebel
26-11-2014
Katie is the best for me, she's switched on, works well in whatever capacity she is given and seems to be well liked.

The worst has to be James. If I started working with him at 9.00 I'm certain I'd have killed him by half past, and no one would mind.
chrono88
26-11-2014
QUEEN ROISIN.

Yeeehah.
itsJoe
26-11-2014
Roisin - Best
James - Worst

Although favoruite is Bianca and least is Daniel.
Matt_Harbinson
26-11-2014
Roisin- best, she got off to a bad start with the first task and the money error but since that has been very creative, good at numbers. intelligent and works well with people even when they're whiney and silly like Sanjay and James

Daniel- worst, he got off to a good start initially in first task but then crashed and burned in second task and has been generally crap at everything since alongside being over confident and confrontational to everyone.
Mmmbop
27-11-2014
Best - Roisin

Worst - Daniel
lightdragon
27-11-2014
Best Roisin/ Katie. It could easily be a two girl final this year again. Both are cool and collected, perhaps Katie does have a sneaky edge because she's more upbeat, it all depends on their business plans.

Worst Sanjay/ Daniel. Sanjay for being invisible and Daniel for being Daniel, neither have had a good week, but at least I remb that Daniel is in the show.
fruitloop27
27-11-2014
It was a toss-up between James & Daniel for the worst candidate, but now the former has gone- Daniel all the way. Especially after his hissy fits last night.
via_487
27-11-2014
Best - Roisin

Worst - Mark
Mark is so insincere I wouldn't trust him in business further than I could throw him.
So Fetch
27-11-2014
Best - Róisín. Hands down.

Worst - Probably Fillipe, seems like a nice guy but I haven't seen anything great in him so far.
Malkay
27-11-2014
Originally Posted by via_487:
“Best - Roisin

Worst - Mark
Mark is so insincere I wouldn't trust him in business further than I could throw him.”

Mark is clearly a very good negotiator, has a business mind and is an excellent salesman. Just because he is out for himself doesn't make him a bad candidate. Business plans aside he is by far and away the most impressive candidate imo. Yes, he's ruthless but he has played the game superbly. Can't for the life of me see how you could see him as the worst candidate?

Guys like Felipe and Sanjay are deadwood unless they have a brilliant business plan
Sweet FA
27-11-2014
Best: Solomon & Roisin.

Worst: Mark & possibly Sanjay.
Malkay
27-11-2014
Originally Posted by Sweet FA:
“Best: Solomon & Roisin.

Worst: Mark & possibly Sanjay.”

out of interest, why Mark?
Makosi's pants
27-11-2014
The Best candidate is Rosin then followed by Katie and Mark. As sneaky as Mark is, he often gets the job done and is the best salesperson.

At this point Filipe and Sanjay are the worst candidates. They are both lovely guys, but I just wouldn't trust them to get things done.

A special mention must go to the candidate with the most impressive feature. Bianca and her forehead. I think it must have it's own postcode. I hope she makes it to the boardroom as she holds her own and seems to have recovered very well from her mistakes but if she doesn't, she could make a fortune selling her dome for advertising space
Malkay
27-11-2014
I don't think Sanjay is a nice guy at all. Constantly moaning and great at telling everyone where things are going wrong, adding negativity, without adding a single constructive chime. He offers nothing and I can't see how he has lasted this long
via_487
28-11-2014
Originally Posted by Malkay:
“Mark is clearly a very good negotiator, has a business mind and is an excellent salesman. Just because he is out for himself doesn't make him a bad candidate. Business plans aside he is by far and away the most impressive candidate imo. Yes, he's ruthless but he has played the game superbly. Can't for the life of me see how you could see him as the worst candidate?

Guys like Felipe and Sanjay are deadwood unless they have a brilliant business plan”

You don't have to see it.
That was my choice, not yours.

But I will elaborate a little...
Mark is a good negotiator and a good salesman (although selling so many hot tubs was more luck than sales technique), and he's definitely ruthless.
But for me (me remember - not you), I would not want a business partner I could not trust. And I could not trust Mark.
(and yes, I know that all business is cut throat, but Lord Sugar is putting more than money into this partnership; he is also putting his reputation into his ultimate choice - for all to see).
via_487
28-11-2014
Originally Posted by Malkay:
“I don't think Sanjay is a nice guy at all. Constantly moaning and great at telling everyone where things are going wrong, adding negativity, without adding a single constructive chime. He offers nothing and I can't see how he has lasted this long”

I agree with you on this.
But I see Sanjay as the weakest candidate left rather than the worst.
He won't make the finish anyway.
Malkay
28-11-2014
Originally Posted by via_487:
“You don't have to see it.
That was my choice, not yours.

But I will elaborate a little...
Mark is a good negotiator and a good salesman (although selling so many hot tubs was more luck than sales technique), and he's definitely ruthless.
But for me (me remember - not you), I would not want a business partner I could not trust. And I could not trust Mark.
(and yes, I know that all business is cut throat, but Lord Sugar is putting more than money into this partnership; he is also putting his reputation into his ultimate choice - for all to see).”

that's fine, I understand. I just think that A.S didn't get to where he is by being a 'nice guy'. I reckon Mark is in it to win it. The way he carries himself when discussing at exec level is impressive and I think his Apprentic persona wouln't necessarily be the way he is outwith. I just see him as having been the most overall, impressive candidate thus far. the mismatch with Daniel makes for enjoyable viewing!
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