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Katie 'the mum' and why does she dislike Daniel so much?
Marie4eva
26-11-2014
the way she reacts to him etc...


plus what do you think of LS calling her Mum/mummy....
Samantha_OBrien
26-11-2014
Originally Posted by Marie4eva:
“the way she reacts to him etc...


plus what do you think of LS calling her Mum/mummy....”

bit of a pattern here, so that is Katie, Mark, Pamela and Felipe.... hhmmmm
Arthur_B
27-11-2014
Maybe Daniel is disliked because he's quite dislikeable?????
Reggie Rebel
27-11-2014
Originally Posted by Marie4eva:
“plus what do you think of LS calling her Mum/mummy....”

I thought that was a compliment to the way that she's calm, collected and always knows the right thing to do
Scarlet O'Hara
27-11-2014
Originally Posted by Arthur_B:
“Maybe Daniel is disliked because he's quite dislikeable?????”

Indeed. He's one of the most incompetent narcissists who's ever been on the show, and last night proved he has the emotional IQ of a toddler. Notice his limp hug to his teammates after the win, like he was still harbouring a grudge? As if he was personally denied individual glory when hes been an unmitigated disaster on every task. Like he'd ever have sold 30k of hot tubs when he can't even sell a candle.

He gets a lot of sympathy on here and Sugar bizarrely seems to have a soft spot for him but IMO it's because he's a walking tragicomedy. I challenge anyone who thinks he's likeable to list those qualities.
inothernews
27-11-2014
When they clinched the hot tubs deal, I honestly thought Katie was about to hug Daniel. Then it was if she stopped at the last second and thought 'No, it's Daniel'

Must be some reason,
Super_Furry
27-11-2014
I don't like Katie.
Probably her monotonous droning voice and condescending manner.

She should be chucked on the 'nothing' pile with Sanjay.
slouchingthatch
27-11-2014
Originally Posted by Scarlet O'Hara:
“Indeed. He's one of the most incompetent narcissists who's ever been on the show, and last night proved he has the emotional IQ of a toddler. Notice his limp hug to his teammates after the win, like he was still harbouring a grudge? As if he was personally denied individual glory when hes been an unmitigated disaster on every task. Like he'd ever have sold 30k of hot tubs when he can't even sell a candle.

He gets a lot of sympathy on here and Sugar bizarrely seems to have a soft spot for him but IMO it's because he's a walking tragicomedy. I challenge anyone who thinks he's likeable to list those qualities.”

I agree.

I do agree with those who say Mark was sly in manipulating Felipe. But equally a sensible PM should have come to that decision anyway. Put your best salesperson on the product most likely to win you the task.

Just because Daniel (with a big assist from Katie) successfully secured the vendor didn't give him the right to sell the hot tubs. He's proven himself to be a poor salesman despite his repeated (and frankly ridiculous) claims to the contrary. Set aside the fortunate bulk deal, and Mark still sold two tubs - enough to win the task on their own.

Also, real world thought: procurement (securing the vendor) and sales (er, selling) are different jobs, albeit with some common skill sets around negotiating - and in companies of any significant size they are done by different people. Daniel did the procurement job. Mark did the selling job. No one had the automatic right to do both.
king_kong2
27-11-2014
Did anyone else notice the rejected hug Daniel wanted fom Katie after the hot tub phone call? Stung more that Katie later offered a hug to Adam
Philip Wales
27-11-2014
I think she's playing the "long game" with Daniel, she seems to work well with him, both last week and this week, then seems very keen to jump on the "bashing" when she gets to the boardroom and sees Daniel's the target.
thenetworkbabe
27-11-2014
This is an unusual series in that the very competent people and the midfield are all very blunt about the hopeless cases. The very competent people are very good at assessing what the terrible ones are doing wrong, and they are more assertive in the boardroom pointing this out. It looks like the dangerous and insufferable people are so bad that the group nearly all identify them , and those that can articulate it are steering Lord Sugar to the right result . That may be so so they get noticed and are not written off , and so his Lordship doesn't make too many ridiculous decisions - like those that have sent other top players home to save wide boys.

Katie is doing nothing that Roisin isn't doing. She's not creating the situations to report on - like Mark is. And she's providing better, sharper, analysis than the midfield players who share the consensus - but are also assessed by Mark, Roisin and Katie and each other.

Among the top contenders, all sorts of odd tactical moves are going on. Mark on the NYC task was almost entirely tactical thoughout. And you have to ask why ,on a team with two big players and someone who thinks he is one Felipe got the job as PM this week, or why the other team would let James lose again - when 3 of them can hardly stand him on task , and even Bianca treated him like a naughty boy at times.
In Arcadia Ego
27-11-2014
Originally Posted by king_kong2:
“Did anyone else notice the rejected hug Daniel wanted fom Katie after the hot tub phone call? Stung more that Katie later offered a hug to Adam”

Is Adam a relative of Derek's?
Philip Wales
28-11-2014
Well James was the only one to put himself forward, regardless that it was a selling task an the others aren't sales people it makes no difference, they all need to sell, so anyone of them could of been PM in fact those that lost their task as PM should be fighting for PM more, than someone who won.
brangdon
28-11-2014
Originally Posted by Philip Wales:
“I think she's playing the "long game" with Daniel, she seems to work well with him, both last week and this week, then seems very keen to jump on the "bashing" when she gets to the boardroom and sees Daniel's the target.”

She's not jumping on any bandwagons. She could see for herself how Daniel was screwing up with the vendors, and needed her guidance to tone down for the last one. That she did so in a non-confrontational way that he could accept, was to her credit. Better than Philipe and Daniel's continual snipping together while on the job.
Philip Wales
28-11-2014
You've just proved my point, she works well on task with him, then jumps on him when in the boardroom. She's usually the 2nd one after Mark
UnrealityTV
28-11-2014
At a wild guess because he's a complete arse and she's a reasonable judge of character?
Philip Wales
28-11-2014
^^ Thats fine Mark and Daniel don't like each other, and they both know it. But Katie even stepped in when on the NY task and backed what Daniel had said about the logo and water, when speaking to Bianca. But soon as the boardroom comes around, she sits there, makes sure she's not a target, looks to see who is, then jumps in.
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