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He's bad, but I personally wouldn't say he was the worst to get this far. Stuart Baggs in Series 6 and Michael Sophacles in Series 4 spring to mind as being worse imo. There are others as well.
There's also been quite a few finalists/semi finalists with something in common with Daniel - he's just gor more of those traits. |
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I think Daniel is a very poor candidate, but for me he is just marginally stronger than Sanjay in this series.
This series has been entertaining but other than 3 or 4 of the candidates the standard has been low |
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This week Daniel may shine, a treasure type hunt could be right up his street, and with his knowledge of London (I assume it will be based in London) could give the team the edge. Also with Mark on his team, negotiation should be good, that's if Mark stays on the same team. Bianca will be the stumbling block, her business sense is non-existent.
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Quite a few are far worse that useless Michael Sophocles series 4, could well argue Lee McQueen who won series 4, hindsight Tom series 7, had TA been under the old format he'd have been fired long before he got to the final but LS liked his Business Plan.
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Felipe and Sanjay are both worse
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People with London knowledge don't always do well. Remember Syed? He arranged to meet someone at Wandsworth Bridge (a major crossing point on the River Thames) and went to an ordinary railway bridge over Wandsworth Road, thinking that was it. With most people that wouldn't be a major error, but Syed had gone on and on about how he had grown up in the area, so he really should have known that.
Actually, the business plan was criticised very heavily by Claude for being full of errors. It was a nice idea to prevent back pain, but it needed a lot more work, and in the end they decided to abandon it and go with something else. I think Lord Sugar was more interested in Susan's business than Tom's, as a matter of fact. |
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Susan's proposal looked good to me , but was knocked back on her figures- which couldn't be supported. It made little sense, unless you assume that the risk looked too high until someone had looked in detail at the figures. However ,you would think there was time to look intensively at the figures in any series where there's a gap between something being questioned at interview, and decided at a later final boardroom.
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Lee I thought was a very strong candidate outside of his slight temper problem and poor public speaking, and the fact that people usually have to haul "HE DID A PTERODACTYL IMPERSONATION!" out of mothballs to find something to disparage him for is very telling. There was an awful lot of snobbery that series brought out by the fact that the public's favourites were both upper-class twits and Lee got the worst of it because he was very rough and unpolished.
If we're talking Final 8 then I'd throw Samuel, Ghazal, Laura Moore, Natasha and Leon out there on top of the names already mentioned. |
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I'm sure he had some people whip her proposal into shape before he invested in her. Her not winning meant that he wasn't bound by the rules of the show to invest £250,000 in her, either, so he could have invested less.
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Lee I thought was a very strong candidate outside of his slight temper problem and poor public speaking, and the fact that people usually have to haul "HE DID A PTERODACTYL IMPERSONATION!" out of mothballs to find something to disparage him for is very telling.
Claude: I hear you do a pterodactyl impression. Lee: That's right. Claude: Please do it for me, now, as I'm in a position of power over you and if you don't do what I ask I will report back to Surallen that you don't do what you're told. Lee: Wrarrk Claude: I will now report back to Surallen that you don't know what is and what is not appropriate in a business environment. It was a trap, pure and simple, and no matter what Lee did, he'd have received a bollocking. |
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Yep, although as I understand it Sugar isn't committed to invest £250,000 cash in the winner's plan. The fund is for up to £250,000, and it's not necessarily all cash - I'm sure it's been said somewhere before that some of it can be payment in kind, such as the provision of services or 'consultancy'.
So he could offer them 10p. I wonder how that works out in equity terms. Because, surely, if the deal is that Sugar owns 50% of the business, then whatever he invests in to it should be half of what he estimates the business is worth. I don't know how that works out in legal terms and whether the candidate could insist on more money, or even refuse the investment for not being good enough. It's an interesting question. |
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I think the pterodactyl thing is pathetic. Was it Claude? I think so, and will assume so for the sake of this re-enactment:
Claude: I hear you do a pterodactyl impression. Lee: That's right. Claude: Please do it for me, now, as I'm in a position of power over you and if you don't do what I ask I will report back to Surallen that you don't do what you're told. Lee: Wrarrk Claude: I will now report back to Surallen that you don't know what is and what is not appropriate in a business environment. It was a trap, pure and simple, and no matter what Lee did, he'd have received a bollocking. |
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Knowing Mark's he's already doing the rounds "telling the other candidates about the interviewers" he's probably even dropped Claude a line to bring him up to speed.
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I think the pterodactyl thing is pathetic. Was it Claude? I think so, and will assume so for the sake of this re-enactment:
Claude: I hear you do a pterodactyl impression. Lee: That's right. Claude: Please do it for me, now, as I'm in a position of power over you and if you don't do what I ask I will report back to Surallen that you don't do what you're told. Lee: Wrarrk Claude: I will now report back to Surallen that you don't know what is and what is not appropriate in a business environment. It was a trap, pure and simple, and no matter what Lee did, he'd have received a bollocking. |
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IIRC it was Paul, who always managed to pull off the seemingly impossible task of making Claude look fair and measured by comparison.
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Was there any difference between that and Jordan being asked to do a Rubik's Cube in the interview last year?
In all fairness, Lee should never have put that on his application at all, it's not very professional. But you can hardly blame him for doing it when he was asked to. |
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Was there any difference between that and Jordan being asked to do a Rubik's Cube in the interview last year?
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In all fairness, Lee should never have put that on his application at all, it's not very professional.
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You have to remember that it's not an application for a job, it's an application to be a contestant on a reality TV show. I'd bet that every contestant who's ever been on has had something like that on their application, and I'd also be prepared to bet that there are questions on the application form which are designed to get answers like that (like, say, "what is your most audacious party-piece?").
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I think this is a very fair assessment. The interviewers adopt a hostile, "I don't believe a word you say and by the way we've done background checks on you" attitude. I've never experienced anything like it (though my experience at being interviewed is a bit limited) and I certainly never interviewed in that way, nor did one of my colleagues (who had previously had a very senior role in personnel at the Foreign Office). It's all part of the fun though - it's only a TV game show, not a real business show. Can't wait for Claude & Co to sink their fangs into some of this year's hopefuls.
At the end of the day the candidates themselves make a rod for their own back with daft claims, or business plan on their CV, forgotten who it was but one candidate was kicked out by Claude because he didn't own the business, & was offering 15% of the business which isn't the deal, the deal is 50% or don't bother. |
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Well, actually at the interviews they treat it as an application for a job.
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I must have been distracted on all those occasions when Tom couldn't sell because he was too busy arguing with his teammates. Like in Week 10 for example. Melody and Helen totally owned that task!
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Was Tom frequently brought into the boardroom though?
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I see from the trailers that Daniel is playing the Jewish card this week with the traders he encounters. I only hope it doesn't backfire like it did for Michael Sophocles, the only 'good Jewish boy' who doesn't know that taking a chicken to be blessed by an Imam does not make it kosher.
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Imagine the Daily Fail outrage if a halal chicken was on the list.
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Sophocles every day of the week and twice on Sunday
He was a rancid little horror wasn't he? I don't think Daniel is that bad but I'm just completely distracted by how much he looks like Ronnie O'Sullivan and has the same Essex wide boy kind of patter as well. |
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