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Apple set to release the iPhone 6s AND iPhone 7 in 2015
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My name's Scott
08-12-2014
Funny how Apple's 'flop' 5c still sold more units than Samsung's Galaxy S5. http://www.cultofmac.com/285876/appl...month-sale-uk/
Everything Goes
08-12-2014
Originally Posted by My name's Scott:
“Funny how Apple's 'flop' 5c still sold more units than Samsung's Galaxy S5. http://www.cultofmac.com/285876/appl...month-sale-uk/”

You missed out a very important fact:

Apple's 'flop' 5c still sold more units than Samsung's Galaxy S5 In its first month on sale in the UK

Ever thought of writing for the Daily Mail?
Robbo19
08-12-2014
Originally Posted by Everything Goes:
“According to this rumour Apple are working on a 4" iPhone to appeal those people who don't like larger screens.

http://www.neowin.net/news/rumor-app...hone-next-year”

Notice how the 4" screen is now referred to as "Female Friendly". Basically it's saying that all us lads with the iPhone 5s or earlier have a womans phone.
Gormagon
09-12-2014
If your source for Apple tech news is the DailyMail then stop.

"Apple to release iphone 7" one year after releasing iphone 6. Hell I could have gotten that out of a 10 year old christmas cracker. Well done, you have cracked the code.
Robbo19
13-12-2014
Starting to get a bit confused with this whole iPhone 6s and/or iPhone 7 in 2015 now.

If Samsung have started work on the A9 processor chips wouldn't that mean the next iPhone 6s WILL be released in Spring 2015 with the iWatch and then the iPhone 7 in September 2015 with iOS 9 and A10 chips?!

However some websites are saying that the iPhone 7 will be the flagship device in Sept 2015. In a way I wish Apple would just officially announce their plans for 2015 ASAP like so us iPhone 5s owners know when to upgrade as I know i'm getting fed up of mine now but dont want to get rid of it too early.
d123
13-12-2014
Originally Posted by Robbo19:
“Starting to get a bit confused with this whole iPhone 6s and/or iPhone 7 in 2015 now.

If Samsung have started work on the A9 processor chips wouldn't that mean the next iPhone 6s WILL be released in Spring 2015 with the iWatch and then the iPhone 7 in September 2015 with iOS 9 and A10 chips?!

However some websites are saying that the iPhone 7 will be the flagship device in Sept 2015. In a way I wish Apple would just officially announce their plans for 2015 ASAP like so us iPhone 5s owners know when to upgrade as I know i'm getting fed up of mine now but dont want to get rid of it too early.”

There will be an iPhone 6s in September 2015.
My name's Scott
13-12-2014
I think we have an iPad 3 moment with iPhone 6 and 6 Plus in that the iPad 4 came out six months after iPad 3 due to its flawed design.

The faulty, flawed design of the 6 and 6 Plus will be updated a lot quicker than 12 months. Expect the iPhone 6s and 6s Plus to be out way sooner than September 2015.
tdenson
13-12-2014
Originally Posted by Robbo19:
“. In a way I wish Apple would just officially announce their plans for 2015 ASAP like so us iPhone 5s owners know when to upgrade as I know i'm getting fed up of mine now but dont want to get rid of it too early.”

You really don't understand how Apple works do you ?
tdenson
13-12-2014
Originally Posted by My name's Scott:
“I think we have an iPad 3 moment with iPhone 6 and 6 Plus in that the iPad 4 came out six months after iPad 3 due to its flawed design.”

It wasn't a "flawed design", it was the best that technology could do at the time. They wanted to bring out a retina display and as a result it was a little underpowered. Having said that I owned one and it seemed perfectly fine to me (and better than competing Android tablets at the time) and in fact it is still going strong with my wife who has never even commented on any perceived performance problems.
There were a number of reasons it is believed why they changed their release cycle (but only Apple really know). These included introducing the lightning port to standardise across all iDevices and also to align their release cycle with the Christmas peak selling season.

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“The faulty, flawed design of the 6 and 6 Plus will be updated a lot quicker than 12 months. Expect the iPhone 6s and 6s Plus to be out way sooner than September 2015.”

What is this "faulty flawed design". They are flying off the shelves and I see nothing in the media about a faulty flawed design. You state as fact a 6S will be out in short order, I would be prepared to take a bet with you that you are wrong .Why would a company pull a product that is the best selling phone in the world and a negligible number of people are reporting problems with. You pay too much attention to the negative hype in this forum.
Gigabit
13-12-2014
Originally Posted by My name's Scott:
“I think we have an iPad 3 moment with iPhone 6 and 6 Plus in that the iPad 4 came out six months after iPad 3 due to its flawed design.

The faulty, flawed design of the 6 and 6 Plus will be updated a lot quicker than 12 months. Expect the iPhone 6s and 6s Plus to be out way sooner than September 2015.”

The iPhone 6 will be updated in one year's time. The "bending" issues will be quietly fixed with internal changes but the design will remain largely unchanged.

It's been this way since 2008, a newly designed iPhones comes out every two years.

Remember the iPhone 4? "Antennagate" was silently fixed a year later with the 4S. Apple didn't recall devices or release the 4S more quickly.
Robbo19
13-12-2014
Originally Posted by tdenson:
“You really don't understand how Apple works do you ?”

Up until now I thought I did tbh, from the first iPhone back in 2007 until the iPhone 5 in 2012 there was only 1 phone a year, then in 2013 and 2014 they released 2 phones but now in 2015 it's likely that there will be THREE (iPhone 6s, 7 and this 4" female only device) released phones.

What I meant was with my 5s my upgrade is due between May and July so haven't a clue which one to go for if both 6s and 7 are released in 2015, either have 4 months with the flagship device from May or hold of until September and be 2 generations behind.
jonmorris
13-12-2014
I don't think it counts when you have different models, like the 5c or another small-screened model that will replace the c (I assume they'll give up on that, or else redesign it significantly).

There are two (well, now three) iMac models to choose from, ignoring the different CPUs, RAM etc. There are also a range of MacBook models, including the Air.

So why not a number of different iPhones? It was rumoured for some time before Apple actually introduced the 5c, and eventually happened. Now there are the two 6 models.

The question is why Apple took so long, but clearly Steve Jobs knew best and figured one single model was all that was required and people would want whatever they were given. He was right, to a degree.
tdenson
13-12-2014
Originally Posted by Robbo19:
“Up until now I thought I did tbh, from the first iPhone back in 2007 until the iPhone 5 in 2012 there was only 1 phone a year, then in 2013 and 2014 they released 2 phones but now in 2015 it's likely that there will be THREE (iPhone 6s, 7 and this 4" female only device) released phones.

What I meant was with my 5s my upgrade is due between May and July so haven't a clue which one to go for if both 6s and 7 are released in 2015, either have 4 months with the flagship device from May or hold of until September and be 2 generations behind.”

I was really referring to your comment "I wish Apple would officially announce their plans for 2015" - this is not in their DNA
jchamier
13-12-2014
Originally Posted by tdenson:
“I was really referring to your comment "I wish Apple would officially announce their plans for 2015" - this is not in their DNA”

As Tim Cook said as their AGM to shareholders who wanted to know more about upcoming products and wanted to change their direction "If you don't like our way of doing business, you should get out of our stock".
tdenson
14-12-2014
Originally Posted by jchamier:
“As Tim Cook said as their AGM to shareholders who wanted to know more about upcoming products and wanted to change their direction "If you don't like our way of doing business, you should get out of our stock".”

I'm not sure that's in context. I seem to remember that quote was in response to a shareholder who thought Apple were being too green.
jchamier
14-12-2014
Originally Posted by tdenson:
“I'm not sure that's in context. I seem to remember that quote was in response to a shareholder who thought Apple were being too green.”

You're right, my bad

Proper info here:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/4064a6fe-7...#axzz3LnFaFc2m

I'm sure there was another incident, but I can't find any references so must have been my over active imagination!.
louise1966
14-12-2014
I would go for an iphone 6 plus but, as my monthly usage has been as low as 9 minutes, the contract price is too high, to make it financially viable. I work for a huge technology chain so, with my discount, no company can offer me a competitive deal. The sony M2 is a good seller for us, so I am most likely to opt for that.
Stig
14-12-2014
Originally Posted by louise1966:
“I would go for an iphone 6 plus but, as my monthly usage has been as low as 9 minutes, the contract price is too high, to make it financially viable. I work for a huge technology chain so, with my discount, no company can offer me a competitive deal. The sony M2 is a good seller for us, so I am most likely to opt for that.”

Surely it makes more financial sense for you to buy an iPhone unlocked and just have a PAYG or monthly contract SIM?

Yes, it's a lot of money it start with, but the phone has a huge resale value when you want to change it.
alanwarwic
15-12-2014
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“.... different models.......The question is why Apple took so long.......”

The question was answered here years ago.
Stating what was always very obvious, it extended sales of smaller models and kept the iPad Mini pertinent.

As long as they manage to hang on to a perception of quality the business model is near perfect.
calico_pie
15-12-2014
The elephant in the room being that it meant sales of larger phones of... a big fat zero.

Which presumably had some benefit, I just can't figure out what it is right now.

But yes - as long as they manage to trick people into thinking their products are good they're on to a winner.
dephanix02
15-12-2014
I've got a feeling Apple will release the iPhone 6S in September, alongside the iPhone 6C.
kidspud
15-12-2014
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“The question was answered here years ago.
Stating what was always very obvious, it extended sales of smaller models and kept the iPad Mini pertinent.

As long as they manage to hang on to a perception of quality the business model is near perfect.”

years ago? The iPad mini has only been around 2 years, so it appears you can see into the future.

The real answer is, there was a lack of demand.
alanwarwic
15-12-2014
We even had professional Apple users here agreeing that Apple famously held back features so that they can drip feed them in future models thus making the maximum amount of money.

Whilst the 6 is like a Nexus 4, the Plus is more a Galaxy Note copycat from mid 2011.
If there is an iPhone 7 I'd say it is a plastic 7 or 8" iPad with phone functionality as standard (a Galaxy Tab copycat).

The fallen off a cliff iPad sales necessitate it. The iWatch complements demand.
They might even strait jacket it with only 1GB of Ram again. (so the Air can stay the expensive 'functional' iPad).
kidspud
15-12-2014
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“We even had professional Apple users here agreeing that Apple famously held back features so that they can drip feed them in future models thus making the maximum amount of money.

Whilst the 6 is like a Nexus 4, the Plus is more a Galaxy Note copycat from mid 2011.
If there is an iPhone 7 I'd say it is a plastic 7 or 8" iPad with phone functionality as standard (a Galaxy Tab copycat).

The fallen off a cliff iPad sales necessitate it. The iWatch complements demand.
They might even strait jacket it with only 1GB of Ram again. (so the Air can stay the expensive 'functional' iPad).”

I don't even know what a professional Apple user is, and if you think the iPhone 6 and nexus 4 are equivalent to each other, it just continues to demonstrate how little you know about either.

As for the rest of your post, we will park it until the next iPhone comes out.
alanwarwic
15-12-2014
Chalk and cheese.

Features may well be be silently added to catch up in years to come, though just as likely the mass of standard PC stuff will be dropped on Android.
I say PC stuff, but NFC tags came to Android first, not the PC.
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