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Mel having a go again.
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EnricoIV
02-12-2014
Originally Posted by Paace:
“Very insensitive of Vicky . Surely the other group could have shared some of that breakfast with the 4 who hadn't eaten a decent meal for over 3 days .”

You'll have to talk to the producers then. That's why they were separated until they were done eating. So they couldn't share. But I'm sure you won't let that fact stop you from finding fault with Vicky for it.
erin_p
02-12-2014
Originally Posted by EnricoIV:
“You'll have to talk to the producers then. That's why they were separated until they were done eating. So they couldn't share. But I'm sure you won't let that fact stop you from finding fault with Vicky for it.”

The laminate was read out that stated the group had to consume the brekkie before the others returned .That's why they agreed not to tell the Wombats what they actually ate.... but Kendra couldn't help when Mel asked
bbnutnut
02-12-2014
Originally Posted by conchie:
“Afraid I am with Mel on this. She was STARVING ….. and all Vicky could bang on about was how she hoped they got a good breakfast !!! How flipping insensitive.”

When the Wombats won the brownies and ice cream they didn't share them. I dare say they rubbed that in to the other lot.
planets
02-12-2014
Originally Posted by erin_p:
“The laminate was read out that stated the group had to consume the brekkie before the others returned .That's why they agreed not to tell the Wombats what they actually ate.... but Kendra couldn't help when Mel asked ”

i'm sure i remember Kendra asking if they could "rub it in" about having the breakfast but the others said no......am i misremembering....?


can anyone else remember that?
danielleh
03-12-2014
I'm not sure where I stand on Mel, but I think I'm probably on her side in relation to the cooking. I don't think she's dictatorial about being the cook; I think it's probably the case that the role has been given to her, presumably because she's the best at it. The way Kendra suggested she sits back and let Edwina/Vicki do it implies to me that the others want Mel to cook or else nobody else is offering to, rather than Mel demanding she must.
Alrightmate
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by Fiddly_Feltz:
“I liked Melanie Sykes before this series. I want her out before she annoys me too much more.

Calling others passive aggressive.....pot, kettle, black Mel!!”

I couldn't believe it when Mel made insinuations about 'people' being passive aggressive.
She said that she wished 'people' would be upfront to her about things.
EDWINA WAS. She brought up the cooking time for octopus so that it isn't overcooked and rubbery before Mel started cooking it. But Mel said "I know, I know" and was annoyed with her.
So to say that she wished people were upfront to her isn't true. Evidently she doesn't like it when they are.
Alrightmate
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by Cally's mum:
“You know what? I have been the victim of people sitting there making comments but not coming right out and saying anything to me directly. Mel walks away which is the best thing to do. She hasn't screamed and yelled at anyone. It is what I gave done myself and either bitched about it to someone close to me or usually let it fester and affect me in other ways.

No one is perfect; they are all on top of one another down there and there are some extremely strong, very opinionated people ... Of course conflict is going to happen.

So she is the one who has taken on the cooking; it tends to become 'your thing' in close situations like that. It's your 'reason' for being there if you will and I would guess that any threat to that is a threat to your equilibrium.

She certainly isn't the first cook to get a little 'precious' about the role in the jungle and she won't be the last. And when the girls were without her, isn't that when the cooking went to pot (pardon the pun)? No one knew what the heck to do. So why are they all moaning and complaining when they couldn't do it themselves anyway and rely on her for a well-cooked meal?”

But Edwina was upfront with her.
She brought up the cooking time for octopus to Mel before she started cooking it, but was met with a hostile response from her.
If Mel is going to be like that with people then she shouldn't be surprised if people don't want to approach her.
They know she's a control freak so know that they have to tread carefully around her.
Alrightmate
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by Polly503:
“At last a post I can agree with. I like Mel, she is doing well. She has said others can cook and instead they just sit commenting how bad she is. getting up and walking away is the best thing to do, generally she seems to get along with the others fine, Michael even described her as the cook. It will be interesting to see how they get on if Mel is voted out, I don't think it will be for a while because she is quite popular except on this forum.”

They'll get on fine. What makes you think that out of all of them none of them can cook except for Mel? What are the chances of eight adults not being able to cook?
In fact I'm sure that meals have been cooked by others when the camp has been separated before.
Stockingfiller
03-12-2014
Why is Mel so unable to listen to advice or suggestions from anyone ? She had a go at Michael during a trial for saying anything at all , plus she won't accept any suggestions re the cooking.

Edwina and Vicky were right about cooking octopus. It has to be sliced pretty thinly and cooked quickly or it goes tough. Melanie was furious. The octopus was tough.

I think she has some great qualities but it seems that if she's not boss, she loses her temper or almost, does.
Blondie X
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by Stockingfiller:
“Why is Mel so unable to listen to advice or suggestions from anyone ? She had a go at Michael during a trial for saying anything at all , plus she won't accept any suggestions re the cooking.

Edwina and Vicky were right about cooking octopus. It has to be sliced pretty thinly and cooked quickly or it goes tough. Melanie was furious. The octopus was tough.

I think she has some great qualities but it seems that if she's not boss, she loses her temper or almost, does.”

I agree with you. I do like Mel but she does have control freak tendencies and is a pretty spikey character at times.
Scarlett Berry
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by Cally's mum:
“Huh. I thought keeping a lid on your anger would be a GOOD thing rather than exploding and making things uncomfortable for everyone.

Silly me.

And I do like a good label. Or a bad one.”

Well at least you're being honest with yourself.

Mel is not keeping her mouth shut, she has been bitchy to Vicky, Michael and Edwina & made their time in the camp uncomfortable.

She's coming accross as a narky bossy madam who chooses her targets carefully. Very selective and sneaky. I have gone right off her.
HBB
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by Wolfsheadish:
“I thought that was very telling, I mean how she asked ahead of time if they should rub their noses in it and seemed surprised when everyone else said not to. I think in her circles it would be the thing to do. I'd like to think Kendra's mind has been somewhat broadened by her experience with different kinds of people, but I doubt it. ”

She's a nasty thick bit of work, nothing will improve her because her experience is that being that way has brought her wealth and admiration.
HBB
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“Well at least you're being honest with yourself.

Mel is not keeping her mouth shut, she has been bitchy to Vicky, Michael and Edwina & made their time in the camp uncomfortable.

She's coming accross as a narky bossy madam who chooses her targets carefully. Very selective and sneaky. I have gone right off her.”

I think that's exaggerated and includes quite a bit of imagination.

She's been snappy with a few people, she is by admission, competitive and not patient.
She is also extremely hungry. What we have seen is her personality reacting to the environment and her camp mates under the pressure of hunger.

What you've seen is something that probably comes from your own bias.
IMO of course.
Scarlett Berry
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by HBB:
“I think that's exaggerated and includes quite a bit of imagination.

She's been snappy with a few people, she is by admission, competitive and not patient.
She is also extremely hungry. What we have seen is her personality reacting to the environment and her camp mates under the pressure of hunger.

What you've seen is something that probably comes from your own bias.
IMO of course.”

and indeed yours too. IMO of course.
Jayma
03-12-2014
Mel is clearly struggling with the hunger in there, and I can understand the misery we've seen from her since the teams split into two in order to compete for immunity. It's clearly having a physical affect on her - not just in her gaunt looks, but she mentioned feeling some pain and breathlessness when walking up the steps. These factors would have a negative impact on most people's mood.

Her campmates are more than aware of her irritability and now seem to find her difficult to approach, particularly on the subject of food. I'm not sure whether they're putting up with it because they can understand where it's coming from, or whether they feel that's how she actually is and want to avoid conflict with her.

When Edwina was discussing the octopus with Vicki, it was telling that Vicki tried to stop her from saying anything and told her it was best to leave it and say nothing. Also, Nadia commented when she came out that there was noticeable tension around the evening mealtime cooking, as though it's a regular occurrence that everyone is treading on eggshells around Mel.

It can be uncomfortable viewing at times, but she clearly has support from people voting for her, since so far, she hasn't been in the bottom two, even when there were only four of them to vote for.
Parneb
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by conchie:
“Afraid I am with Mel on this. She was STARVING ….. and all Vicky could bang on about was how she hoped they got a good breakfast !!! How flipping insensitive.”


None of the campmates are STARVING, they are just hungry. It would be against the law if ITV did starve them.

Real starving is still happening in our affluent world...check out Africa for starters.


None of the campmates were forced into the jungle, they knew what they were about....money talks.
Parneb
03-12-2014
[quote=Jayma;75873149]Mel is clearly struggling with the hunger in there, and I can understand the misery we've seen from her since the teams split into two in order to compete for immunity. It's clearly having a physical affect on her - not just in her gaunt looks, but she mentioned feeling some pain and breathlessness when walking up the steps. These factors would have a negative impact on most people's mood.



If she is breathless as she claims, then just see Doctor Bob. Nobody, but nobody is forcing Mel to stay in the jungle.


Ticket home for Mel like NOW.
anne_666
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“Well at least you're being honest with yourself.

Mel is not keeping her mouth shut, she has been bitchy to Vicky, Michael and Edwina & made their time in the camp uncomfortable.

She's coming accross as a narky bossy madam who chooses her targets carefully. Very selective and sneaky. I have gone right off her.”

She's also the only one I think, to go off to take her deep breaths and use it as an excuse to bitch with whoever goes after her. She doesn't understand the meaning of passive aggression at all and she's the only person using it and against the three older campmates. She won't take any advice from anyone then whinges when the food isn't right, like the octopus and Edwina dares to say anything.She only works with Gino D'acampo, she's not a chef.
Her lack of sympathy for the people who didn't get their letters was awful.
Kendra also said that the tension ran high every night when she was cooking dinner and it's unpleasant for the others. Is that OK? They managed to cook for themselves when the camp was divided. I've had quite enough of her bad moods and petulance now.
julicova
03-12-2014
I hope Mel loses her temper - preferably with someone clever and articulate like Edwina or Michael - and they give it to her straight and she is booted out ASAP.

It must be really horrible being in the camp with someone so wired.
Wolfsheadish
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by HBB:
“She's a nasty thick bit of work, nothing will improve her because her experience is that being that way has brought her wealth and admiration.”

Yes, I was thinking that the other night. Obviously her behaviour has worked for her so far, so why should she change? I'm sure she'd consider herself to be successful, at least in her world. A bit like a child who finds that crying gets them attention and sweeties
Cally's mum
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“Well at least you're being honest with yourself.

Mel is not keeping her mouth shut, she has been bitchy to Vicky, Michael and Edwina & made their time in the camp uncomfortable.

She's coming accross as a narky bossy madam who chooses her targets carefully. Very selective and sneaky. I have gone right off her.”

Yeah, I was being sarcastic. Shame you didn't pick up on that.

I am now going to do what Mel does and walk away ...
Scarlett Berry
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by Cally's mum:
“Yeah, I was being sarcastic. Shame you didn't pick up on that.

I am now going to do what Mel does and walk away ... ”

When you have to point out attempts at sarcasim it clearly hasn't worked. Also, not keen ...it's the lowest form of wit.

Off you go then and remember like Mel, remember to exhale loudly and look for attention
erin_p
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by planets:
“i'm sure i remember Kendra asking if they could "rub it in" about having the breakfast but the others said no......am i misremembering....?


can anyone else remember that?”

Laminate was read out regarding the brekkie with the instructions to the campmates to have it eaten before the wombats return . .They decide not to" rub it in" and tell the others( as Kendra had suggested they do because they worked hard for it) but Mel asked and Kendra couldn''t wait to tell her .

I don't get why Mel went mad at Edwina and Vickki when they were counting the lychees? the woman baffles me .When Kendra lost the letter task Mel said that she needed to get a reality check ...yet Mel loses it over octopus and a few lychees.
HBB
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“and indeed yours too. IMO of course.”

I'm pragmatic. I've made no emotional investment so I am able to be completely objective.

I have no bias accordingly.
Cosya
03-12-2014
Good on her go on girl
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