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Sony tv - on its way out?
AlanO
02-12-2014
Is this tv starting to fail?

It won't always come out of standby. Red light stays on - doesn't 'flash' which would denote a fault.

Turning off using the buttons on set seems to clear it but the red button doesn't always go out on first push of power button on the set.

it's definitely not the remote control - tried new batteries and have Sony BR player's control which has tv controls on it.

Is it likely to be a power board starting to fail? Or something else?

It's a KDL32v4000 about 5.5 - 6 years old. Won't be devastated if it is dying......
stv viewer
02-12-2014
Im not sure but I would find out soon as u dont want to hit xmas day and have no telly
Chris Frost
02-12-2014
The first suspect is probably dying capacitors somewhere in the primary power side of things. Google "capacitor bulge"
Nigel Goodwin
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by Chris Frost:
“The first suspect is probably dying capacitors somewhere in the primary power side of things. Google "capacitor bulge"”

Doesn't apply to Sony sets, as they don't use the crappy quality capacitors that cause the problems.

For the OP, do you ever turn it OFF at the mains?, and does it come back on OK afterwards if you do?. The switch on the set only puts it in a lower power standby.

Incidentally the 32V4000 sold in huge numbers, as it was a good quality high spec set at a bargain price - and they have been EXTREMELY reliable (we sold hundreds, and have hardly ever seen a faulty one).
AlanO
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by Chris Frost:
“The first suspect is probably dying capacitors somewhere in the primary power side of things. Google "capacitor bulge"”

Have to say that was my first thought. I replaced some capacitors in a Vestel PVR box - which I'd have chucked otherwise - and it's been fine ever since.
AlanO
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin:
“Doesn't apply to Sony sets, as they don't use the crappy quality capacitors that cause the problems.

For the OP, do you ever turn it OFF at the mains?, and does it come back on OK afterwards if you do?. The switch on the set only puts it in a lower power standby.

Incidentally the 32V4000 sold in huge numbers, as it was a good quality high spec set at a bargain price - and they have been EXTREMELY reliable (we sold hundreds, and have hardly ever seen a faulty one).”

Yes - but weren't the capacitor problems elsewhere failing at about 3 years rather than 5-6 years? What is the 'expected' life of a power board capacitor in this kind of use?

Not tried power cycling at the mains - normally have managed to get it to respond to the button on the set on about the 4th attempt......

I don't agree it was a particularly 'high spec' set though - it's got basic UIs when Sony had introduced something better (was it x-bar or something similar?), it's only 720pn HD ready, doesn't have ARC on HDMI. Hardly a 'high spec' set - in most respects it's actually fairly basic - and was by the standards of the time. It was cheap, by Sony's standards, but then they've always been expensive by mainstream standards.
David (2)
03-12-2014
They were not really "720p hd ready" but simply "hd ready" as they can display a 1080i image (the UK standard for hd).

Many sets still have this resolution, especially on smaller sets.
Nigel Goodwin
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by AlanO:
“Yes - but weren't the capacitor problems elsewhere failing at about 3 years rather than 5-6 years? What is the 'expected' life of a power board capacitor in this kind of use?
”

Decent quality ones don't fail during the lifetime of the set.

Quote:
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I don't agree it was a particularly 'high spec' set though - it's got basic UIs when Sony had introduced something better (was it x-bar or something similar?), it's only 720pn HD ready, doesn't have ARC on HDMI. Hardly a 'high spec' set - in most respects it's actually fairly basic - and was by the standards of the time. It was cheap, by Sony's standards, but then they've always been expensive by mainstream standards.”

It was a fairly high spec for the time, it's not 720 (almost nothing ever was) it's HD Ready, and actually 768 pixels. It's not got ARC or CEC as it predated both of those.

They were extremely popular sets, and sold in high numbers.
AlanO
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin:
“Decent quality ones don't fail during the lifetime of the set.”

OK - so if the capacitors on the power board aren't starting to fail - what's the likely cause of the behaviour the set's exhibiting then?

It's definitely not the remote control - if it was the Blu Ray player one would work.

It's not the IR receiver, otherwise it would never respond to the remote.
Nigel Goodwin
03-12-2014
For a start, I would unplug it from the mains, in order to make sure it's fully reset when you plug it back in.

If that doesn't help, then I would imagine it's more likely a fault on the main PCB.

You might try checking the software version, the latest update was 2011 and numbered 036.
Winston_1
04-12-2014
Originally Posted by stv viewer:
“Im not sure but I would find out soon as u dont want to hit xmas day and have no telly”

What. Watching TV is the last thing I think about on Xmas day.
stylo
05-12-2014
Originally Posted by Winston_1:
“What. Watching TV is the last thing I think about on Xmas day.”

What a crass statement.

Think yourself lucky you have a choice. For many lonely folk out there, it's the ONLY thing they'll be doing this Christmas.
stuntmaster
05-12-2014
Originally Posted by stylo:
“What a crass statement.

Think yourself lucky you have a choice. For many lonely folk out there, it's the ONLY thing they'll be doing this Christmas.”

I agree with you.
AlanO
15-12-2014
OK - there seems to be a pattern emerging.

The problem seems to happen after the last used source was the Blu Ray player.

Is it possible that something around the HDMI connectivity is 'locking' the TV?

The BR player is a Sony BDPS185 before anyone asks.

The other things using the HDMI connectors are a Humax PVR and a Chromecast.
chrisjr
15-12-2014
Do you have HDMI control enabled? If you do does putting the Blu-Ray into stand-by also put the TV into stand-by (and possibly vice versa as well)?

If so it might be some screw up in HDMI control. So if it is switched on try turning it off on everything and see if that makes any difference.
Winston_1
15-12-2014
Originally Posted by stylo:
“What a crass statement.

Think yourself lucky you have a choice. For many lonely folk out there, it's the ONLY thing they'll be doing this Christmas.”

I don't think this applies to the OP.
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