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Was this the episode The Apprentice became a farce?
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Clackers
03-12-2014
Who makes up these rules in the boardroom just for entertainment?

Disgraceful actually.

The skeleton was pretty impressive, but Lord Sugar just got outwitted and didn't like it.
In Arcadia Ego
03-12-2014
What?
Clackers
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by In Arcadia Ego:
“What?”

Adding on an extra £310 for the wrong skeleton?

Not even the RRP.
TheGraduate2012
03-12-2014
Definitely. It's been heading this way all this series, especially with the 20 candidates at the start - contrived way to do a couple of 'shock' mass firings.
chaz rich
03-12-2014
Sugar fails to see the difference of thinking outside the box & basically taking the @#@~
He obviously feels that everyone wants to get one over on him, that was clearly not the case on this occasion, to me it shows some form of insecurity on his part.
OR he just wanted to shaft that team to get shot of Filipe the choice is yours
In Arcadia Ego
03-12-2014
As Sugar insists on parroting at least once a series, he's "judge, jury and executioner". He's often made these arbitrary decisions: there are often tasks where the winner is entirely decided by his whim. I don't think this week was a particularly egregious example of that.
slouchingthatch
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by Clackers:
“Adding on an extra £310 for the wrong skeleton?

Not even the RRP.”

No, but it was the guide price in the task instructions - which is what is used to determine item fines.
Joel_B
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by Clackers:
“Who makes up these rules in the boardroom just for entertainment?

Disgraceful actually.

The skeleton was pretty impressive, but Lord Sugar just got outwitted and didn't like it.”

The Apprentice has a been a business inspired game for ages. You not going to so suggest that people are hired like the Apprentice...? Or that businesses invest in ideas based on packing people away on random tasks for weeks.

It's a game show. Once you accept that it is a bit of silly fun.
0...0
03-12-2014
It smacked of an excuse to get rid off Felipe.
beatrice39
03-12-2014
It was a farce. A farce for not accepting it and a farce for the price.
Joel_B
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by 0...0:
“It smacked of an excuse to get rid off Felipe.”

His idea was something to do with disabled children. so Lord Alan ran a mile.
RichmondBlue
03-12-2014
It was clearly the wrong decision, the best team lost. This series has been pathetic, and it's mainly down to Sugar. If they want to continue the programme, get a new, younger entrepreneur and freshen things up..that's if they can find anyone who wants to take the job.
In Arcadia Ego
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by Joel_B:
“His idea was something to do with disabled children. so Lord Alan ran a mile.”

Chortle.
Sherlock_Holmes
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by Clackers:
“Adding on an extra £310 for the wrong skeleton?

Not even the RRP.”

Sigh. The 310 was including the fine for the rope.
.Lauren.
03-12-2014
He got outwitted and didn't like it. It was as simple as that.
slouchingthatch
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by Sherlock_Holmes:
“Sigh. The 310 was including the fine for the rope.”

No, it wasn't. The rope fine was £52. The £310 was the guide price for the skeleton alone. I've got the breakdown of how the team's totals broke down in my weekly review, which I'll post over on the poll thread in a minute.
.Lauren.
03-12-2014
If it had been a different task and it had won them money, Sugar would be heralding it as genius.
cardiff boyo
03-12-2014
It wasn't a proper skeleton though! if a paper skeleton is acceptable why not go to a toy store and buy a plastic diamond!
RichmondBlue
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by .Lauren.:
“He got outwitted and didn't like it. It was as simple as that.”

That's true. He should have been praising them for following the vague instructions and thinking outside the box. But Sugar has no sense of humour, unless he's the one making the jokes..then all his sycophants have to laugh or look for another job.
Nathers7
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by cardiff boyo:
“It wasn't a proper skeleton though! if a paper skeleton is acceptable why not go to a toy store and buy a plastic diamond!”

Plastic skeleton is not a skeleton either by that logic...
ryanr554
03-12-2014
I thought Lord Sugar was in the right to be honest. If I asked somebody to get me a Skeleton and they brought me back that, I would have had the same reaction. They didn't even build it!

All of the fines were not just for the skeleton either.
1. Price of Skeleton which is around £200
2. Fine for not getting Skeleton about £50
3. Fine for not getting the length of the rope correct (which I did think was unfair) £50
4. Actual price of the Paper Skeleton was like £13 which is essentially wasted money
RichmondBlue
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by cardiff boyo:
“It wasn't a proper skeleton though! if a paper skeleton is acceptable why not go to a toy store and buy a plastic diamond!”

Well, I did wonder why they just didn't buy a cheap diamond chip for a couple of pounds. There was nothing to say it had to be a single cut diamond, was there ?
beatrice39
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by ryanr554:
“I thought Lord Sugar was in the right to be honest. If I asked somebody to get me a Skeleton and they brought me back that, I would have had the same reaction. They didn't even build it!

All of the fines were not just for the skeleton either.
1. Price of Skeleton which is around £200
2. Fine for not getting Skeleton about £50
3. Fine for not getting the length of the rope correct (which I did think was unfair) £50
4. Actual price of the Paper Skeleton was like £13 which is essentially wasted money”

In Engineering, you specify exactly what you want. It didn't specify it. Companies lose out plenty of times because they aren't clear and their rules are up for interpretation. Lord Sugar got it wrong. He got outfoxed and didn't like it.
allafix
03-12-2014
I thought the rope fine was less justified than the skeleton one. He got 70% more rope than he wanted for nothing.
chaz rich
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by cardiff boyo:
“It wasn't a proper skeleton though! if a paper skeleton is acceptable why not go to a toy store and buy a plastic diamond!”

Because you could buy a 10 foot plastic diamond but it wont have any carats in it unlike a £50 diamond, the skeleton which was stated had to be a full anatomical one, it never stated what it should have been made of.
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