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The voice over said something like 'meanwhile the other team are in a room down the corridor'. I don't know, but I suspect that the dealers are independent, and pay rent for the premises.
I don't know what Daniel was doing with his wedding story. How did he explain the BBC cameras and Karren? Previous contestants have said they have to ask for permission to film but they say it's for a documentary and can't mention the actual show name. |
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It was crazy, was there any specification given for the diamond ? How do we know the true value of the diamond,. I'm no expert, but I do know you can pick up similar size diamonds that vary enormously in price. It's not like buying gold, that has a specific price according to weight and carat value.
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How did Roisin get a diamond for 50 quid? Was she even in London? Surreal.
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"Sizing up some sparkle a few doors down." were the words used by the narrator from about 22.43 onwards so that's how we know it was the same building.
Mind you the disparity in opening price did make me wonder how specific the instructions were on diamond quality, which is far more what the price is based on than size. |
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I'm going to call fix on this one. I imagine that a diamond dealer's business is about as secure as you can get. There's no way in a month of Sundays could they of arranged to just rock up and get in. It would of taken at least several phone calls from the production company and may be a visit by them, before a dealer would allow several unknown people into his business. Otherwise they've just exposed a massive cap in their security.
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Turning this on its head, I wonder if Roisin got a more realistic price for the diamond, whereas the other dealer knew Daniel was telling him a load of tripe and put the price up.
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Turning this on its head, I wonder if Roisin got a more realistic price for the diamond, whereas the other dealer knew Daniel was telling him a load of tripe and put the price up.
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"I like blonde people so i'm going to lower the price" hahaha what a moron. He should be the one getting fired by Alan (Alan should also fire himself by cheating the other team out of the win)
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Exactly .. No mention of clarity, colour etc
![]() But as for Roisin getting that stone for £50.00?. ![]() Even wholesale it surely should have been higher?........ |
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Bit unfair that the irish lass got the dealer who was giving the diamond away for free basically, would have liked to see her try her charm on the guy Daniel had to deal with,
Are we seriously expected to believe that the seller sold a diamond for £50? Is that what he'd normally do if he wasn't on a TV show? Compare that diamond seller to the guy Daniel got and it looked ridiculously set up. Also where on earth did AS dig up a £320 fine for the skeleton? Looked very much to me that Alan Sugar definitely wanted that team to lose and for the other team to win. The team blew the other one out of the water...but then Sugar sticks a £320 fine on them? Nah, not having it. |
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I like the way Karren gave Roisin a pass for using her sex appeal to seduce the dealer into letting the diamond go cheap. Surely not a trait deemed necessary for a serious businesswoman
What a hypocrite |
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I'd like to think the dealer that played hardball with Daniel was doing it because he was punishing them for trying to BS him with the "I'm getting married, just ignore Nick over there and all the cameras" shenanigans.
I don't think Daniel would have got a much better deal, but being upfront like Roisin may have made it a bit sweeter. |
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I think that the dealer immediately pegged Daniel as a blagger. Maybe it's just me, but that "I'm getting married" line sounded utterly unconvincing. Besides, why does a diamond merchant care why you want a diamond? He's not coming to the wedding is he?
I just think Daniel's a wide boy, and anyone can see it. |
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Karren was playing the fiancé probably. Not sure who Felipe was supposed to be - the best man?
Previous contestants have said they have to ask for permission to film but they say it's for a documentary and can't mention the actual show name. Surely to get the person's permission for filming you must tell them what programme it is they will be appearing on . |
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I think that the dealer immediately pegged Daniel as a blagger. Maybe it's just me, but that "I'm getting married" line sounded utterly unconvincing. Besides, why does a diamond merchant care why you want a diamond? He's not coming to the wedding is he?
I just think Daniel's a wide boy, and anyone can see it. He should have gone long ago . When you think of the far superior people who have been fired . |
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It kind of reminds me of what happened in series 1, when Saira and Raj managed to get a Freeview box for free because the guy in the store was Asian aswell and they managed to haggle with him because they all spoke eachother's language.
Whether it's a free Freeview box or a £50 diamond, as long as you don't do anything too ridiculous I don't think Sugar minds. |
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I like the way Karren gave Roisin a pass for using her sex appeal to seduce the dealer into letting the diamond go cheap. Surely not a trait deemed necessary for a serious businesswoman
What a hypocrite James and the others used charm during their selling pitches as well. Mark flattered and complimented some customers. Did you think he was trying to "seduce" those customers? |
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I have never heard this . Can you provide links ?
Surely to get the person's permission for filming you must tell them what programme it is they will be appearing on . All you need to be clear on when obtaining permission: a) who you're working/filming for, e.g. production company and/or broadcaster b) the general purpose of filming c) how many people (crew and talent) will be on the premises d) how long the filming will last and sometimes e) who'll pay for the utility costs (electricity, water, etc) and other essential expenses in the duration of filming |
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Huh? Roisin's managed to develop a rapport with the dealer, which obviously helped her to bargain it down to £50. Rapport is essential. Either you have it or you don't. No different from Daniel having a rapport with the meat seller, who sold him a whole kosher chicken for £4.
James and the others used charm during their selling pitches as well. Mark flattered and complimented some customers. Did you think he was trying to "seduce" those customers? |
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It's not double standards. It's because The Apprentice always has a bit in the first few episodes when it's an all girls team showing some of them trying to get a advantage using their womanly wiles and this is reprimanded or edited negatively. Roisin got a rosy edit for essentially doing the same thing later in the series.
I do remember in series 3 when candidates had to find any way to make money and the girls team sold kisses, which made some of them and Lord Sugar rather uncomfortable. Not comparable to one woman trying to buy a diamond though. Truth is Roisin didn't do anything unreasonable. It was the seller that started the flirting, Roisin just reacted to it to get the deal done. |
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I think that the dealer immediately pegged Daniel as a blagger. Maybe it's just me, but that "I'm getting married" line sounded utterly unconvincing. Besides, why does a diamond merchant care why you want a diamond? He's not coming to the wedding is he?
I just think Daniel's a wide boy, and anyone can see it. |
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Rosion was extremely lucky she basically had a pervert who fancied her as a dealer.
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