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Should the skeleton have counted?
I think if they'd taken the time to put it together, Lord Surallan might have accepted it- at least it would have looked like the real deal. What they gave him was a packet- can you point at the femur? No. You can't count the ribs either.
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Yes you can. Just open the packet.
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I think if they'd taken the time to put it together, Lord Surallan might have accepted it- at least it would have looked like the real deal. What they gave him was a packet- can you point at the femur? No. You can't count the ribs either.
Even not made up their skeleton is as much a skeleton as a flat pack Ikea bed is a bed. |
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Absolutely there was nothing wrong with it - it matched the instructions. Plain and simple. If you are in business you have to be specific about things.
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Even not made up their skeleton is as much a skeleton as a flat pack Ikea bed is a bed.
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Absolutely there was nothing wrong with it - it matched the instructions. Plain and simple. If you are in business you have to be specific about things.
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I think it should've counted - after all if you're going to quibble then a plastic skellington isn't a real one either. However after 10 years someone on the team should've realised that Lord Sid don't like being taken for a mug and he makes the rules...
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I think it's open to interpretation. You could argue that, although it met the letter of their instructions, in real life it wouldn't be accepted. The problem for me is that the rope would have been accepted in real life, despite not complying with the exact instructions, so if he rejects one if should've accepted the other.
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I don't know- if I went to a hotel, and they said, "here's your bed for the night" and pointed to an ikea flatpack and handed me a screwdriver, I think I'd be rightfully peeved.
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haha!
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I think it should have been accepted, but had they thought and made an effort to construct it to demonstrate that it was as useful as a plastic skeleton Lord Sugar may have been more forgiving.
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A 'make your own skeleton' is not a skeleton until it's built
None of the other items would have been accepted in 'make your own' form I can see the angle Felipe was thinking about, but I think it was right to not be accepted |
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to add anothr ingredient how did they reach the figure of £310 for a £50 fine for not buying and a £260 list price for the item itself. Amazon will sell you one for £154
http://www.amazon.co.uk/TecTake-skel...mical+skeleton Or £130 http://www.amazon.co.uk/66FIT-Human-...mical+skeleton or £110 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Scientific-A...mical+skeleton All with no bargaining over price. The fine looks arbitary. |
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None of the other items would have been accepted in 'make your own' form |
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to add anothr ingredient how did they reach the figure of £310 for a £50 fine for not buying and a £260 list price for the item itself. Amazon will sell you one for £154
I just don't get how Phillipe could think that he could cut such a corner as to get the most expensive item for around a tenner... |
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I don't know- if I went to a hotel, and they said, "here's your bed for the night" and pointed to an ikea flatpack and handed me a screwdriver, I think I'd be rightfully peeved.
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You could argue if you provided an actual human skeleton you dug up from a graveyard the bones wouldn't be attached together so a kit of parts is similar.
Although it wasn't expected, it's like someone asking for a car and getting a load of parts to put together - that isn't a car until it's put together. It has the potential to look good when put together http://www.ebay.com/itm/Awesome-Life...-/190353022957 or Google Images for Build Your Own Human Skeleton (Taschen) show it fine when put together. |
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No, I personally don't feel it should have been accepted. It felt too much like a circumvention rather than an interpretation of the rules. Shame about Felipe though, Daniel was quick to distance himself from the whole debacle.
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I already said i thought sugar intended to fine them whatever it took to lose.
A plastic skeleton is no more a skeleton than a paper skeleton. A skeleton is bone. |
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I thought it was ingenious and Shorty would love it as a work of out of the box thinking.
What do I know eh? 😏 |
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Does an Amstrad satellite dish pick up satellite signals until it's constructed and positioned on a roof? I bet the Lord's boxes say satellite dish, not parts that have the potential to become a satellite dish
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Does an Amstrad satellite dish pick up satellite signals until it's constructed and positioned on a roof? I bet the Lord's boxes say satellite dish, not parts that have the potential to become a satellite dish
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"Here's your diamond Lord Sugar- A LUMP OF COAL"
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Skeletongate will be the memorable point of this series.
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They supplied EXACTLY what the brief asked for. It's no good SirAlan saying "that's not what I meant" as that has no baring in anything.
Personally I think they should have got a pat on the back thinking laterally and thus saving money. It was great business sense: Supply exactly what is specified at a cheaper cost. This happens all the time in business where something is change and all is OK as long as it meats the agreed specifications. Therefore SirAlan was in the wrong. |
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